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« on: July 31, 2012, 12:11:38 PM »
http://pro.stansberryresearch.com/1202ENDOFAMR/PPSIN705/

Thank you previous generations. Thank you. So much. Our future is so bleak.

"The demand for dollars from the rest of the world has been of inestimable benefit to the US Economy. It quite simply allows Americans to consume more than they produce and save less than they invest; in other words, to live beyond our means."- Barrons's

"Indeed, it is unlikely that ammericans themselves will escape the inflationary consequences of current fed policy...the fed is financing a vast and rising federal deficit, following a practice that has been a surefire prescription for domestic inflation from the time immemorial."- George Melloan


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Re: Stansberry's Investment Advisory
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 12:57:53 PM »
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Re: Stansberry's Investment Advisory
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2012, 01:16:54 PM »


do we have a poster who both supports the "end the fed" bullshit and has an economics degree?

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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2012, 01:17:44 PM »
maybe someone that studied austrian economics... but a degree doesn't mean you know what the eff you're talking about.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 02:01:21 PM »
maybe someone that studied austrian economics... but a degree doesn't mean you know what the eff you're talking about.

having an econ degree ensures that a person understands how the US federal reserve works. they couldn't pass if they didn't.

i don't know a lot about austrian economics. i do know that it doesn't have any empirical data. would it not be INSANE for a country to abandon the system that has played a role in making it the richest nation in the world for one that is completely unproven?

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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 02:50:03 PM »
maybe someone that studied austrian economics... but a degree doesn't mean you know what the eff you're talking about.

having an econ degree ensures that a person understands how the US federal reserve works. they couldn't pass if they didn't.

i don't know a lot about austrian economics. i do know that it doesn't have any empirical data. would it not be INSANE for a country to abandon the system that has played a role in making it the richest nation in the world for one that is completely unproven?

The Austrian economists were the only ones that predicted the financial crisis. Look up Ron Paul and Peter Schiff videos from 2007 and before. They clownsuited everyone.

Also, the Fed gives illusion of wealth. Suggesting were the richest nation in the world because of the Fed is false.

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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 03:04:39 PM »
http://pro.stansberryresearch.com/1202ENDOFAMR/PPSIN705/

Thank you previous generations. Thank you. So much. Our future is so bleak.

"The demand for dollars from the rest of the world has been of inestimable benefit to the US Economy. It quite simply allows Americans to consume more than they produce and save less than they invest; in other words, to live beyond our means."- Barrons's

"Indeed, it is unlikely that ammericans themselves will escape the inflationary consequences of current fed policy...the fed is financing a vast and rising federal deficit, following a practice that has been a surefire prescription for domestic inflation from the time immemorial."- George Melloan

Tried to watch, he talked so goddam much and so uselessly I had to close.

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 03:08:37 PM »
if he spent a lot of money on that video he isn't very good w/ money.

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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 03:25:52 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 03:42:08 PM »
maybe someone that studied austrian economics... but a degree doesn't mean you know what the eff you're talking about.

having an econ degree ensures that a person understands how the US federal reserve works. they couldn't pass if they didn't.

i don't know a lot about Austrian economics. i do know that it doesn't have any empirical data. would it not be INSANE for a country to abandon the system that has played a role in making it the richest nation in the world for one that is completely unproven?

If we were really the wealthiest in the world, we would have the cheapest products in the world.  Instead, nearly every other country can survive  on pennies compared to our economy.  All the federal reserve has really done is maintain inflation to keep our buying power the same over the last couple hundred years.  I think what you meant is we're the largest producers and consumers in the world – not the wealthiest.   
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 03:45:51 PM »
maybe someone that studied austrian economics... but a degree doesn't mean you know what the eff you're talking about.

having an econ degree ensures that a person understands how the US federal reserve works. they couldn't pass if they didn't.

i don't know a lot about Austrian economics. i do know that it doesn't have any empirical data. would it not be INSANE for a country to abandon the system that has played a role in making it the richest nation in the world for one that is completely unproven?

Instead, nearly every other country can survive  on pennies compared to our economy.

This isn't really true, and almost all countries that actually do have goods and services that are cheaper than ours have very few citizens that can afford those goods and services, even at the cheaper rate.

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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 03:56:51 PM »
Didnt watch the main video but scrolled though some of the website, it looks like something my dad would make. No tabs, no headlines, no links, just a straight line of text broken up by some graphs.

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 04:00:01 PM »
Honest question, not trolling, can someone help me understand this?

say it takes ten guys to build a car and the manufacturer has set their profit margins so that after all of the materials & labor, they can sell their car for $10,000.  Due to technological advancements, you lay off 3 of those guys, so naturally after time, the car becomes cheaper to produce – yet they’re still selling the car for $10,000 in 1980 dollars.  Naturally – the price of vehicles should come down – as there is only 7 guys than can actually afford the car now – so supply & demand should resolve this; and we’ve reduced cost – so unless the profit margins are still being driven up, the cost of the product should come down, correct?  Has it?  How do you account for a car being $6,000 in 1980 now being $30,000 in 2012 - that can't all be inflation - Are unprecedented executive profits causing this? 
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 04:03:56 PM »
material costs + no one makes the same car for 30 years

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2012, 04:12:04 PM »
Honest question, not trolling, can someone help me understand this?

say it takes ten guys to build a car and the manufacturer has set their profit margins so that after all of the materials & labor, they can sell their car for $10,000.  Due to technological advancements, you lay off 3 of those guys, so naturally after time, the car becomes cheaper to produce – yet they’re still selling the car for $10,000 in 1980 dollars.  Naturally – the price of vehicles should come down – as there is only 7 guys than can actually afford the car now – so supply & demand should resolve this; and we’ve reduced cost – so unless the profit margins are still being driven up, the cost of the product should come down, correct?  Has it?  How do you account for a car being $6,000 in 1980 now being $30,000 in 2012 - that can't all be inflation - Are unprecedented executive profits causing this?

Part of it can be tied to enhanced safety features and other technology being incorporated into today's vehicles. You can purchase a much, much nicer vehicle today for $30,000 than you could in 1980 for $6,000. The $6,000 vehicle in 1980 is probably more comparable to a $15,000 vehicle today. Also, part of it can be tied to the fact that the supply and demand of vehicles in the United States really has not changed much since 1980. Regardless of the cost of manufacturing vehicles, the average American still needs to own one, and does.

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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 04:36:00 PM »
Honest question, not trolling, can someone help me understand this?

say it takes ten guys to build a car and the manufacturer has set their profit margins so that after all of the materials & labor, they can sell their car for $10,000.  Due to technological advancements, you lay off 3 of those guys, so naturally after time, the car becomes cheaper to produce – yet they’re still selling the car for $10,000 in 1980 dollars.  Naturally – the price of vehicles should come down – as there is only 7 guys than can actually afford the car now – so supply & demand should resolve this; and we’ve reduced cost – so unless the profit margins are still being driven up, the cost of the product should come down, correct?  Has it?  How do you account for a car being $6,000 in 1980 now being $30,000 in 2012 - that can't all be inflation - Are unprecedented executive profits causing this?

Part of it can be tied to enhanced safety features and other technology being incorporated into today's vehicles. You can purchase a much, much nicer vehicle today for $30,000 than you could in 1980 for $6,000. The $6,000 vehicle in 1980 is probably more comparable to a $15,000 vehicle today. Also, part of it can be tied to the fact that the supply and demand of vehicles in the United States really has not changed much since 1980. Regardless of the cost of manufacturing vehicles, the average American still needs to own one, and does.

So advances in technology don't make all of this new technology any cheaper either?  How then are executives taking in unprecedented bonuses and why is the middle class shrinking?


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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2012, 04:36:25 PM »
Honest question, not trolling, can someone help me understand this?

say it takes ten guys to build a car and the manufacturer has set their profit margins so that after all of the materials & labor, they can sell their car for $10,000.  Due to technological advancements, you lay off 3 of those guys, so naturally after time, the car becomes cheaper to produce – yet they’re still selling the car for $10,000 in 1980 dollars.  Naturally – the price of vehicles should come down – as there is only 7 guys than can actually afford the car now – so supply & demand should resolve this; and we’ve reduced cost – so unless the profit margins are still being driven up, the cost of the product should come down, correct?  Has it?  How do you account for a car being $6,000 in 1980 now being $30,000 in 2012 - that can't all be inflation - Are unprecedented executive profits causing this?

What's this magical technological advancement that has reduced labor cost by 30 percent with no other costs whatsoever?

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2012, 04:40:14 PM »
"naturally after time" that's an important part there.  Not to mention many organizations just become lean - even without technology replacing workers.  A lot of streamlining has taken place in the industrial sector over the last 50 years.


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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2012, 04:41:57 PM »
Honest question, not trolling, can someone help me understand this?

say it takes ten guys to build a car and the manufacturer has set their profit margins so that after all of the materials & labor, they can sell their car for $10,000.  Due to technological advancements, you lay off 3 of those guys, so naturally after time, the car becomes cheaper to produce – yet they’re still selling the car for $10,000 in 1980 dollars.  Naturally – the price of vehicles should come down – as there is only 7 guys than can actually afford the car now – so supply & demand should resolve this; and we’ve reduced cost – so unless the profit margins are still being driven up, the cost of the product should come down, correct?  Has it?  How do you account for a car being $6,000 in 1980 now being $30,000 in 2012 - that can't all be inflation - Are unprecedented executive profits causing this?

Part of it can be tied to enhanced safety features and other technology being incorporated into today's vehicles. You can purchase a much, much nicer vehicle today for $30,000 than you could in 1980 for $6,000. The $6,000 vehicle in 1980 is probably more comparable to a $15,000 vehicle today. Also, part of it can be tied to the fact that the supply and demand of vehicles in the United States really has not changed much since 1980. Regardless of the cost of manufacturing vehicles, the average American still needs to own one, and does.

So advances in technology don't make all of this new technology any cheaper either?  How then are executives taking in unprecedented bonuses and why is the middle class shrinking?


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How can all of this new technology be cheaper than when it was nonexistant?

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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 04:43:13 PM »
I also think you're seriously under estimating how expensive labor is.  Pensions/wages/benefits - roi can be a year on a million dollar tool if it eleminates 10-12 jobs.  Anything after that year is coins in your pocket.


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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 04:45:59 PM »
You mean back of the napkin hypotheticals can't debunk the lies and expose the greed of an entire industry?

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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2012, 04:48:16 PM »
The middle class is shrinking because we have an abundance of Americans who simply are not smart or educated enough to get a good job that doesn't require a lot of work and they don't want to put in the work necessary to earn a decent living.

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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2012, 04:50:27 PM »
Honest question, not trolling, can someone help me understand this?

say it takes ten guys to build a car and the manufacturer has set their profit margins so that after all of the materials & labor, they can sell their car for $10,000.  Due to technological advancements, you lay off 3 of those guys, so naturally after time, the car becomes cheaper to produce – yet they’re still selling the car for $10,000 in 1980 dollars.  Naturally – the price of vehicles should come down – as there is only 7 guys than can actually afford the car now – so supply & demand should resolve this; and we’ve reduced cost – so unless the profit margins are still being driven up, the cost of the product should come down, correct?  Has it?  How do you account for a car being $6,000 in 1980 now being $30,000 in 2012 - that can't all be inflation - Are unprecedented executive profits causing this?

Part of it can be tied to enhanced safety features and other technology being incorporated into today's vehicles. You can purchase a much, much nicer vehicle today for $30,000 than you could in 1980 for $6,000. The $6,000 vehicle in 1980 is probably more comparable to a $15,000 vehicle today. Also, part of it can be tied to the fact that the supply and demand of vehicles in the United States really has not changed much since 1980. Regardless of the cost of manufacturing vehicles, the average American still needs to own one, and does.

So advances in technology don't make all of this new technology any cheaper either?  How then are executives taking in unprecedented bonuses and why is the middle class shrinking?


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How can all of this new technology be cheaper than when it was nonexistant?

keep in mind I'm not just talking about cars - that was an example.  I'm really just searching for some explanation of high executive pay and a vanishing middle class.


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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2012, 04:53:02 PM »
Honest question, not trolling, can someone help me understand this?

say it takes ten guys to build a car and the manufacturer has set their profit margins so that after all of the materials & labor, they can sell their car for $10,000.  Due to technological advancements, you lay off 3 of those guys, so naturally after time, the car becomes cheaper to produce – yet they’re still selling the car for $10,000 in 1980 dollars.  Naturally – the price of vehicles should come down – as there is only 7 guys than can actually afford the car now – so supply & demand should resolve this; and we’ve reduced cost – so unless the profit margins are still being driven up, the cost of the product should come down, correct?  Has it?  How do you account for a car being $6,000 in 1980 now being $30,000 in 2012 - that can't all be inflation - Are unprecedented executive profits causing this?

Part of it can be tied to enhanced safety features and other technology being incorporated into today's vehicles. You can purchase a much, much nicer vehicle today for $30,000 than you could in 1980 for $6,000. The $6,000 vehicle in 1980 is probably more comparable to a $15,000 vehicle today. Also, part of it can be tied to the fact that the supply and demand of vehicles in the United States really has not changed much since 1980. Regardless of the cost of manufacturing vehicles, the average American still needs to own one, and does.

So advances in technology don't make all of this new technology any cheaper either?  How then are executives taking in unprecedented bonuses and why is the middle class shrinking?


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How can all of this new technology be cheaper than when it was nonexistant?

keep in mind I'm not just talking about cars - that was an example.  I'm really just searching for some explanation of high executive pay and a vanishing middle class.


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Who knows why executives are payed so much, really?

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2012, 04:53:52 PM »
The middle class is shrinking because we have an abundance of Americans who simply are not smart or educated enough to get a good job that doesn't require a lot of work and they don't want to put in the work necessary to earn a decent living.

So this is all a welfare problem? It has nothing to do with newly minted $$ hitting the top first - deteriorating purchasing power of the dollar - and the new cheap money takin too long to hit the consumers on the bottom?


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