Why do you feel the need to take B.O. out of context here. That's not at all what he's saying.
Weird how you came full circle from your snotty self righteous little rant. Hypocrite
I do not think I took him out of context. I'm genuinely confused.
If what he's saying isn't what I believe it was, I'd be interested to hear (1) what you think he was saying, (2) why he was saying it, (3) why he contradicted himself 3 sentences after he said it and (4) whether or not his apparent argument was in his self interest, .
Secondly, I'm not a hypocrite. Participating in something I dislike, because I feel compelled to do so, doesn't make me a hypocrite. I believe everyone that regularly participates in "discussions" (and I use that word extremely loosely) like the one we're having is prone to polarity, which I think we can all agree, is dangerous. So it's important to keep that in mind when we do it.
I don't believe my argument was snotty or self-righteous, but I regret if it came across that way.
GMAFB. You're comment about "all he's saying" is probably further out of context than Dougie's bait and reel comment.
To read that quote and come up with that interpretation, taken in
context, inter alia, with the 3 1/2 years of bitching and moaning about "fair share", the 3 1/2 years of not-so-thinly-veiled class warfare and more recently the ridiculous Jane character, makes you look painfully naive and out of touch. You are either that, or the hypocrite I accused you of.
Do we really need to be reminded that trucks drive on highways and that checks are delivered via the USPS? eff no, that's not at all what he's saying.
If "all he's saying" is that we all benefit from public goods, why frame it so it appears that the "successful" people are just lucky benefactors of public goods and that there's lots of identical people doing the same thing as those "successful" people and it's just not working out? He does it to set up the phony and non-existent social compact which is in danger of being destroyed. The social compact where everyone puts in and benefits in proportionate and "fair shares" (as decided by B.O. and crew), the one he needs to set up his straw man. Unfortunately our country has never been further from this phony social compact, as we have more people putting nothing in while taking more out than ever.
He continues to develop his false premise, that we're all in this together, that we all live by the social compact. He sets up and burns down the liberals' favorite straw man; that all republicans are against public goods, regulation, etc. (as you called it "pure libertarianism"). Nevermind nobody is debating the country needs roads, bridges and education (and he didn't bother with them in his first 3 1/2 years). He does this to confuse the republican opposition to the enormous, damning, social welfare state that already exists, and which he wants to expand, as opposition to so-called public goods*. This of course is to misrepresent that these luck-of-the-draw "successful" people, who would not have anything but for the benefit of the phony social compact (public goods), want to take away the public goods that allowed them to be successful in the first place. That they want to rip away the very lifeblood of success that would otherwise allow those who haven't been successful (lucky) so they can have it all to themselves, on the back of the working man.
It's a horrifically dishonest message. It's also a horrifying look into the vision of our society that our elected leader possesses.
It's these types of speeches, which expose the B.O.'s values and morals and which were kept under wraps until now, that are going to propel Romney into the WH in November. Ironically, Obama is the exact person Fox News portrayed him as, and the more and more he has to talk about something more substantive than Hope and Change, the more people are starting to recognize it and run from it like it has leprosy.
*The part about the government inventing the internet so everyone can make money is so utterly asinine I can't even begin to address it.
