Memorial Stadium in Lawrence blows

[OregonSmock]

Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.

What's so special about The Grove?  It is what it is.  As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery.  I don't know why.  Why are boobs good?  Why does filet mignon taste good?

I couldn't think of a reason either.

Pretty douchey thing to say.  The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU.  Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium?  It's useless.  No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.

Campus is fine. The hill isn't really anything though. It's a slope that gets mowed. No impartial person would look at it and think "picturesque".

Langston Hughes wrote about the hill in his biography, and EA Sports called KU's stadium one of the most picturesque settings in all of college football in NCAA Football '12. 

[OregonSmock]

William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.

Pretty freaky huh?

Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well.  The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.


 

[sonofdaxjones]

William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.

Pretty freaky huh?

Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well.  The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.


 

I just thought it was a little out of left field . . . saw it in a book about Kansas many moons ago.

Oh, and don't get me wrong, I think the hill is a nice setting.

[EMAWmeister]

Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.

What's so special about The Grove?  It is what it is.  As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery.  I don't know why.  Why are boobs good?  Why does filet mignon taste good?

I couldn't think of a reason either.

Pretty douchey thing to say.  The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU.  Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium?  It's useless.  No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.

Campus is fine. The hill isn't really anything though. It's a slope that gets mowed. No impartial person would look at it and think "picturesque".

Langston Hughes wrote about the hill in his biography, and EA Sports called KU's stadium one of the most picturesque settings in all of college football in NCAA Football '12.

Is that going to fit on a regulation sized banner?

[cfbandyman]

Beems, honest question. What is so special about "the hill"? Be as objective as you possibly can.

What's so special about The Grove?  It is what it is.  As people, we learn to appreciate aesthetics and places with beautiful scenery.  I don't know why.  Why are boobs good?  Why does filet mignon taste good?

I couldn't think of a reason either.

Pretty douchey thing to say.  The bottom line is you're a butthurt K-State fan... you hate KU.  Why waste my time trying to explain to you why I value the fact that KU has a beautiful campus next to its stadium?  It's useless.  No matter what I say, you're going to hate on it.

Campus is fine. The hill isn't really anything though. It's a slope that gets mowed. No impartial person would look at it and think "picturesque".

Langston Hughes wrote about the hill in his biography, and EA Sports called KU's stadium one of the most picturesque settings in all of college football in NCAA Football '12.

Is that going to fit on a regulation sized banner?

They could fit it on a tarp that covers a bunch of their empty bleachers like Baylor does

[PowercatPat]

William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.

Pretty freaky huh?

Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well.  The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.


 

Because we like to tailgate. KU fans wouldn't know how fun it is.

[star seed 7]

it's official, tree lovers are outed as squaks.  http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2013/apr/05/four-year-jayhawk-boulevard-construction-project-c/

[Rage Against the McKee]

Guys, all they have to do is:

1. Remove the track
2. Square off the bowl
3. Build the stands closer to the field
4. Add a second set of suites to the East side
5. Update some of the concourses

When all of that happens, KU will leapfrog to around the middle of the pack in stadium awesomeness.

It would have put them middle of the road in the Big 12 if they had completed it before this year, but with TCU's renovations and Baylor's new stadium, I would say that they are on par with Jack Trice, and pretty much tied for worst after those renovations. If all of that is really going to cost $200 million, they would be completely stupid to do that rather than just rebuild.

[Kat Kid]

I bet "The Grove" is awesome for racists.

[kslim]

I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility

The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.

Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years:  313K

But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.

Who is Cheyenne Zulu, and why do you constantly pretend like KU is struggling to raise money for athletics?  Our athletic department dwarfs K-State and our endowment is damn near five times the size of your little ag school on the prairie.

he wrote the rules to basketball. As a ku fan I figured you knew that

[kslim]

William Allen White once called K-State's campus the most beautiful in the state, with its limestone buildings and what not.

Pretty freaky huh?

Just because KU has a nice campus doesn't mean K-State's isn't nice as well.  The difference is that K-State's stadium is kind of off-campus and surrounded by a parking lot and pretty much nothing else.


 

Its surrounded by fans on game day 

[mocat]

I rough ridin' hate you guys. Shut the eff up. This is the best thread on the entire board and now look what you've done to it

[pissclams]

ttt

[steve dave]

oh nothing, just some amazing modding by sd. yawn.

[scottwildcat]

oh nothing, just some amazing modding by sd. yawn.

hey sd, thanks for being awesome and modding the crap out of this thing!

[sonofdaxjones]

I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility

The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.

Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years:  313K

But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.

Who is Cheyenne Zulu, and why do you constantly pretend like KU is struggling to raise money for athletics?  Our athletic department dwarfs K-State and our endowment is damn near five times the size of your little ag school on the prairie.

he wrote the rules to basketball. As a ku fan I figured you knew that

FY 2012

KU

Gross Revenue:  $70.49 million
Net Revenue:  ($8.87 million)

K-State

Gross Revenues:  $63.557 million
Net Revenue: $12.276 million

FY 2011

KU

Gross Revenues: $74.493 million
Net Revenue: $2.858 million

K-State

Gross Revenues: $68.875 million
Net Revenue: $23.395 million

Year over Year Net Revenue FY 2011 and FY 2012

KU: ($6.012 million)


K-State:  $35.671 million

[deputy dawg]

FY 2012

KU

Gross Revenue:  $70.49 million
Net Revenue:  ($8.87 million)

K-State

Gross Revenues:  $63.557 million
Net Revenue: $12.276 million

FY 2011

KU

Gross Revenues: $74.493 million
Net Revenue: $2.858 million

K-State

Gross Revenues: $68.875 million
Net Revenue: $23.395 million

Year over Year Net Revenue FY 2011 and FY 2012

KU: ($6.012 million)


K-State:  $35.671 million




But, but, Dax, ku has this HUGE endowment.....besides the spread in operating results of FY 20110 and 2012 is only just over $41 million.

[puniraptor]

if they opened up the track to tailgating during the game, it would be a great gameday experience

[sonofdaxjones]

Permanent endowments are typically restricted for use for a specific purpose.   The vast majority of the time, that purpose is academic and scholarly pursuits, not athletics.   Only a small percentage of ku's permanent endowment is for athletics, and they can access a small percentage of those funds every year based on investment returns on the holdings.   Beyond that, they could borrow money from the foundation on a note. 

ku like K-State appears to place specific capital giving in temporarily restricted accounts with the Foundation, for example right now or very recently K-State athletics had millions of $ in temporarily restricted or unrestricted accounts with the Foundation, but those aren't counted towards the permanent endowment.

A school could have a bazzillion gazzillion dollar endowment and unless the people who made those gifts wanted the proceeds of the investment return, or a % thereof to be used for athletics, it doesn't make a damn bit of difference for the athletic program.   I guess athletics could get a bigger loan.

[420seriouscat69]

Could you imagine having a beautiful hill and then ruining it by placing 11 guys on the field in front of it, that just crap all over the place? What a waste! Literally!

[Pett]

I have been to Lawrence six times for a football game. Even during the '08 whipping when KU was a top 25 team, it wasn't as loud as the Bill

'04 was the only game that I have been intimidated in Memorial

[scottwildcat]

I have been to Lawrence six times for a football game. Even during the '08 whipping when KU was a top 25 team, it wasn't as loud as the Bill (since Snyd's returned)

'04 was the only game that I have been intimidated in Memorial

Pett, you're a pussy.

[felix rex]

I have been to Lawrence six times for a football game. Even during the '08 whipping when KU was a top 25 team, it wasn't as loud as the Bill (since Snyd's returned)

'04 was the only game that I have been intimidated in Memorial

Pett, you're a pussy.

I was at the 04 game. It was a very solid atmosphere. And that-age me really enjoyed the Tommy Boy clip on the Jumbo Tron after one of the Randle plays (even though I hurt inside my heart).

[OregonSmock]

I think it's great that the city of Lawrence will be able to host ncaa track championships at their new facility

The women's program has been ranked #1 for four straight weeks now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see us add another championship to the trophy case this summer.

Maybe, but the average population of NCAA D1 Outdoor Championship Host Cities over the last 12 years:  313K

But I understand, Cheyenne Zulu had to do a hell of sales job to cobble together that back room deal and loan from the KU Foundation, since state backed financing was not available.

Who is Cheyenne Zulu, and why do you constantly pretend like KU is struggling to raise money for athletics?  Our athletic department dwarfs K-State and our endowment is damn near five times the size of your little ag school on the prairie.

he wrote the rules to basketball. As a ku fan I figured you knew that

FY 2012

KU

Gross Revenue:  $70.49 million
Net Revenue:  ($8.87 million)

K-State

Gross Revenues:  $63.557 million
Net Revenue: $12.276 million

FY 2011

KU

Gross Revenues: $74.493 million
Net Revenue: $2.858 million

K-State

Gross Revenues: $68.875 million
Net Revenue: $23.395 million

Year over Year Net Revenue FY 2011 and FY 2012

KU: ($6.012 million)


K-State:  $35.671 million

Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked.  Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl).  When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close.  In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.

[kslim]

Yeah, KU lost money on football those years because our football team sucked.  Yet, we still brought home more bacon than K-State (even while K-State was going to the Cotton/Fiesta Bowl).  When KU finally gets its crap together in football, the spread won't even be close.  In '08, KU was top 10 in the country in total athletic department revenue.

what makes you think that the times are changing? I honestly want to know not talking crap