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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #100 on: June 04, 2014, 12:23:00 PM »
he's a 2nd rounder. needs to catch it a little more consistently this year. but his route running is elite. keenan allen doesn't have great size or speed either and he just roasted the nfl as a rookie.

Keenan Allen is 6'2".

6'2" with a 4.7 40. but he's fast in his routes and out of his breaks. like lockett. lockett will probably run a high 4.4 or 4.5. but it's his speed in and out of his breaks that makes him a very good prospect. he can get open in the slot all day long in the nfl. odell beckham only measured 5'11" and 198 lb's at the combine and was the 12th pick of the draft..
Keenan Allen was injured at the time he ran a 4.7 fwiw.  ODB has elite hands, route running, and speed.  He's also probably an inch or two taller than Lockett.

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #101 on: June 04, 2014, 12:27:59 PM »
he's a 2nd rounder. needs to catch it a little more consistently this year. but his route running is elite. keenan allen doesn't have great size or speed either and he just roasted the nfl as a rookie.

Keenan Allen is 6'2".

6'2" with a 4.7 40. but he's fast in his routes and out of his breaks. like lockett. lockett will probably run a high 4.4 or 4.5. but it's his speed in and out of his breaks that makes him a very good prospect. he can get open in the slot all day long in the nfl. odell beckham only measured 5'11" and 198 lb's at the combine and was the 12th pick of the draft..
Keenan Allen was injured at the time he ran a 4.7 fwiw.  ODB has elite hands, route running, and speed.  He's also probably an inch or two taller than Lockett.

yeah. and if he'd been healthy, he would have run a 4.5 or 4.6. the point is, his route running is what makes him special. there have been bigger and faster wr's who couldn't dream of having 1000 yd seasons. odb ran a 4.4. the knocks on him were that he "lacks elite speed and has inconsistent hands." lockett isn't quite the prospect that odb is, but he's not far behind.
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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #102 on: June 04, 2014, 12:33:01 PM »
he's a 2nd rounder. needs to catch it a little more consistently this year. but his route running is elite. keenan allen doesn't have great size or speed either and he just roasted the nfl as a rookie.

Keenan Allen is 6'2".

6'2" with a 4.7 40. but he's fast in his routes and out of his breaks. like lockett. lockett will probably run a high 4.4 or 4.5. but it's his speed in and out of his breaks that makes him a very good prospect. he can get open in the slot all day long in the nfl. odell beckham only measured 5'11" and 198 lb's at the combine and was the 12th pick of the draft..
Keenan Allen was injured at the time he ran a 4.7 fwiw.  ODB has elite hands, route running, and speed.  He's also probably an inch or two taller than Lockett.

yeah. and if he'd been healthy, he would have run a 4.5 or 4.6. the point is, his route running is what makes him special. there have been bigger and faster wr's who couldn't dream of having 1000 yd seasons. odb ran a 4.4. the knocks on him were that he "lacks elite speed and has inconsistent hands." lockett isn't quite the prospect that odb is, but he's not far behind.
I definitely think he could be a 2nd rounder, but I think overall he needs to improve his hands and strength.  As of now, I think he's more likely to go in the 3 to 5 range.  There is not only one aspect of KA's game that makes him special, he has great hands and size/strength too. 

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #103 on: June 04, 2014, 12:33:16 PM »
He'll get drafted and that's all that matters in my book.  :cyclist:

He's a second round talent at worst.
No he's not, he's probably somewhere in the 2nd to 5th round range as of now.  Stevesie is right.

The chiefs drafted mccluster in  the 2nd round, and he wasn't even a good receiver. 

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To add to this after I posted. I know he was a scat back in college, but he was drafted to return kicks and catch/ try to run balls in specific plays.  Lockett is actually good at being a receiver, and as good at returning kicks as mccluster was.

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Yes and McCluster was a bad pick.  Lockett has only decent hands, good not great speed, and is like 5'9" or 5'10", he's not a first rounder, great college player, not very physically talented which is a requirement of a first rounder.

he's listed at 5'-11" which means he's over 5'-10". As far as physicality goes you're dead wrong. Tyler is a fantastic blocker and you need to watch film of him against Verrett. Watch film against Texas and see how he creates space (Texas DB's constantly asking for offensive P.I.). Watch how Michigan played him, they were afraid of him creating space with his hands/arms and they found out how quick/goo of a route runner he is. Taylor tried to jam him and was left complaining about pushing off. So if you're saying he's not a freakish athlete like Dez or Calvin, I'll agree with you. But, Tyler is pretty physically gifted/tough especially for his size.

I think late first round is his ceiling. Most likely a 2nd rounder. He's not going change a teams offense. But, for an above average QB is probably one hell of an up grade over the long term at the #2 - #4 WR spot.

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #104 on: June 04, 2014, 03:16:25 PM »
Anyone who thinks Lockett goes after the third should probably get the hell out of this thread becasue they are embarrassing themselves as much as that tool who said Clarke was better.
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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #105 on: June 04, 2014, 03:21:31 PM »
Could Lockett be the answer to the Chiefs' WR woes?

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #106 on: June 04, 2014, 03:44:29 PM »
Was his dad?

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #108 on: June 04, 2014, 04:53:52 PM »
Was his dad?

He's better than his dad.

I agree. I just didn't remember his career with KC. Was more of a curious question than anything

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #109 on: June 04, 2014, 04:57:11 PM »
Was his dad?

He's better than his dad.

I agree. I just didn't remember his career with KC. Was more of a curious question than anything

He was serviceable. He wasn't a superstar or anything. He was good for a couple of catches per game.

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #110 on: June 04, 2014, 08:56:58 PM »
Was his dad?

He's better than his dad.

I agree. I just didn't remember his career with KC. Was more of a curious question than anything

He was serviceable. He wasn't a superstar or anything. He was good for a couple of catches per game.
I'd say that TLBL is a tier or so below wordy who was a second rounder

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #111 on: September 06, 2014, 04:31:26 PM »
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Kansas State senior WR Tyler Lockett caught six passes for 136 yards in the school's 32-28 win over Iowa State.

Lockett started off slow, but came down with a perfectly timed contested catch late in this game. The lean receiver will mostly play the "small" game in the NFL, but the more contested catches he puts on tape the better.

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #112 on: September 19, 2014, 09:38:17 PM »
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Kansas State senior WR Tyler Lockett will "create a buzz in war rooms around the league after putting on a spectacular showing on special teams against Auburn," according to NFL.com's Bucky Brooks.

"There is always a spot in the NFL for a dynamic returner with big play ability," Brooks wrote. Lockett is certainly that. The 5-foot-11, 175-pound Lockett averaged 23.7 yards per return across three attempts Thursday night. "While NFL scouts will question his size and durability based on his slender frame, Lockett shows enough toughness as a returner to silence the skeptics concerned about his ability to survive and thrive in the league as a specialist," Brooks wrote. "As far as his chances of cracking a lineup as a wide receiver, I believe he's a natural fit as a No. 3 wide receiver at the next level. He is a polished route runner with a knack for getting open on short and intermediate routes against 'off' coverage. He needs to continue to work on winning against rugged defenders using physical tactics at the line, but he's slippery and flashes enough quickness to separate from defenders out of breaks."

Source: NFL.com Sep 19 - 7:48 PM

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #113 on: September 22, 2014, 11:40:36 PM »
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Kansas State senior WR Tyler Lockett vindicated his detractors by struggling on Thursday against Auburn, writes TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline.

"There’s a wide variety of opinion on Lockett’s next level ability but his performance against Auburn had detractors saying 'I told you so,'" Pauline wrote. "The speedy wide out dropped two passes in the first quarter of his teams loss to the Tigers, including one which slipped through his hands in the end zone. Dropped passes and poor pass catching technique is nothing new for Lockett. On film he’s body catcher who seemingly needs to grasp the ball against his frame to secure the reception. This leads to drops, double catches and a lot of missed opportunity. He’s the type of player who’ll wow coaches with big plays from the line of scrimmage or long kick returns then at the same time break hearts with his inability to cleanly catch the ball." There are two ways to look at the performance, and NFL.com's Bucky Brooks wrote the other one last week, noting that Lockett created "buzz in war rooms" with his special teams play versus the Tigers.

Source: TFY Draft Insider Sep 22 - 9:32 PM

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #114 on: September 23, 2014, 08:03:48 AM »
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Kansas State senior WR Tyler Lockett vindicated his detractors by struggling on Thursday against Auburn, writes TFY Draft Insider's Tony Pauline.

"There’s a wide variety of opinion on Lockett’s next level ability but his performance against Auburn had detractors saying 'I told you so,'" Pauline wrote. "The speedy wide out dropped two passes in the first quarter of his teams loss to the Tigers, including one which slipped through his hands in the end zone. Dropped passes and poor pass catching technique is nothing new for Lockett. On film he’s body catcher who seemingly needs to grasp the ball against his frame to secure the reception. This leads to drops, double catches and a lot of missed opportunity. He’s the type of player who’ll wow coaches with big plays from the line of scrimmage or long kick returns then at the same time break hearts with his inability to cleanly catch the ball." There are two ways to look at the performance, and NFL.com's Bucky Brooks wrote the other one last week, noting that Lockett created "buzz in war rooms" with his special teams play versus the Tigers.

Source: TFY Draft Insider Sep 22 - 9:32 PM

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #115 on: September 23, 2014, 09:11:04 AM »
Lockett looked like a second rounder or so before the season, I would probably say a 3rd right now. 

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2014, 06:28:09 PM »
Lockett looked like a second rounder or so before the season, I would probably say a 3rd right now.
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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #117 on: September 23, 2014, 06:49:32 PM »
he's one of those players i really have no doubt will have success in the NFL, similar to how i felt about sproles and jordy

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #118 on: September 23, 2014, 07:53:38 PM »
He needs to learn how to catch with his hands better and stay healthy to have any career in nfl

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #119 on: September 23, 2014, 09:19:33 PM »
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CBS Sports' Dane Brugler notes that Kansas State senior WR Tyler Lockett "small catching radius and history of drops is not a good combination for a target of his size."

"He runs like the wind with the lighting quick feet to create separation and create, but a small catching radius and history of drops is not a good combination for a target of his size," Brugler wrote. During the game last week against Auburn, Lockett was wide open as he ran an inside route down by the goal line and had a ball bounce off his hands that ended up in an Auburn defenders hands. Brugler adds that the Kansas State prospect "had a few other drops in the game, which has been a pattern over his career with his smaller hands and tendency to run before securing the ball."

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #120 on: September 23, 2014, 09:32:15 PM »
Lockett looked like a second rounder or so before the season, I would probably say a 3rd right now.
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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #121 on: September 23, 2014, 10:28:19 PM »
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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #122 on: September 23, 2014, 10:34:36 PM »
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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #123 on: September 23, 2014, 10:41:06 PM »
I'd lick his balls  :drool:

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Re: Is Lockett the real deal?
« Reply #124 on: September 24, 2014, 05:56:25 AM »
He will keep our NFL draft streak alive, which is all that really matters.


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