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People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #75 on: April 17, 2012, 01:23:16 PM »
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I have never heard of anyone doing this ever
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #76 on: April 17, 2012, 01:23:55 PM »
Does anyone know the correct use of a and an?!   :angry: Holy jeez this is annoying.

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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #77 on: April 17, 2012, 01:28:56 PM »
FYI - "warsh" is not region, race, or age specific.

Race or Age - no.  Region - depends on your definition of a region.  "Western Kansas" thing - no.  Prevelent in a community that was originally settled by German immigrants that formed a mini-dialect, like Hays and Ellinwood - Yes.  It's like how if you listen you can quickly tell if someone grew up in Lindsborg.

Are you high?  I said warsh when I was a kid, until I realized how stupid it made me sound.  I grew up nowhere near Hays or Ellinwood. 
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« Reply #78 on: April 17, 2012, 01:31:47 PM »
FYI - "warsh" is not region, race, or age specific.

Race or Age - no.  Region - depends on your definition of a region.  "Western Kansas" thing - no.  Prevalent in a community that was originally settled by German immigrants that formed a mini-dialect, like Hays and Ellinwood - Yes.  It's like how if you listen you can quickly tell if someone grew up in Lindsborg.

Are you high?  I said warsh when I was a kid, until I realized how stupid it made me sound.  I grew up nowhere near Hays or Ellinwood.

Thus is not being a region, race, or age specific thing.  However, there are some enviroments that make it more prevalent in those communities than others.
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #79 on: April 17, 2012, 01:34:53 PM »
People who pronounce non-smoking as nun-smoking.
People who say "get left", as in "we need to get left by 4."
People who ask "Do you have any dollars?", then when you tell them "Yes, I have a five" they get confused/pissed because they were really asking if you had any ones. 
People who don't know how to properly use "fish" vs "fishes".
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #80 on: April 17, 2012, 01:52:15 PM »
If you have ever heard anyone say vergina you too know how frustrating mispronunciations can be.
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #81 on: April 17, 2012, 02:34:09 PM »
FYI - "warsh" is not region, race, or age specific.

Race or Age - no.  Region - depends on your definition of a region.  "Western Kansas" thing - no.  Prevelent in a community that was originally settled by German immigrants that formed a mini-dialect, like Hays and Ellinwood - Yes.  It's like how if you listen you can quickly tell if someone grew up in Lindsborg.

Well there are more descendants of German immigrants than any other nationality, and they are spread everywhere across the U.S., so, by now, no, it is not regional.

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« Reply #82 on: April 17, 2012, 02:36:52 PM »
I've heard people from both coasts, the south, and the midwest say "warsh"

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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #85 on: April 17, 2012, 03:34:08 PM »
Can someone tell me the proper usage of affect vs. effect? I think I'm doing them wrong.

Affect is a verb. Effect is a noun.

They both are both.

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Yes, but in general, unless you are using a phrase like "This will effect a change in policy...", use "effect" as a noun, where it is much more common.

Affect is much more commonly a verb such as "This is going to affect me", and rarely used as a noun, unless you are talking about "affection"

Yeah. If you use "effect" as a noun and "affect" as a verb, over the course of your entire life, you won't be wrong more than 2 or 3 times.

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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #86 on: April 17, 2012, 03:57:16 PM »
I've heard people from both coasts, the south, and the midwest say "warsh"

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I agreed with you that warsh wasn't regional.  All I said was that it is very prevalent in communities that were German settlements, towns like Hays and Ellinwood that when established were almost all 1st generation German immigrants.  Personally, I've vary rarely heard it outside of those communities, thus my original post.  Honestly, before this thread started I thought it was just said in those communities and was surprised to even see anyone list it.
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #87 on: April 17, 2012, 04:56:22 PM »
My dad says warsh, we are mostly German and Swedish.

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« Reply #89 on: April 17, 2012, 05:57:03 PM »
My mom says warsh and she is mostly French.  She also complains about black people that say axe - which was my original motivation for the last stipulation.


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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2012, 09:05:10 PM »
I've heard people from both coasts, the south, and the midwest say "warsh"

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I agreed with you that warsh wasn't regional.  All I said was that it is very prevalent in communities that were German settlements, towns like Hays and Ellinwood that when established were almost all 1st generation German immigrants.  Personally, I've vary rarely heard it outside of those communities, thus my original post. Honestly, before this thread started I thought it was just said in those communities and was surprised to even see anyone list it.

You do realize that our grandparents, who did not grow up in hays or ellinwood, say warsh instead of was right?

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« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2012, 09:15:27 PM »
I've heard people from both coasts, the south, and the midwest say "warsh"

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I agreed with you that warsh wasn't regional.  All I said was that it is very prevalent in communities that were German settlements, towns like Hays and Ellinwood that when established were almost all 1st generation German immigrants.  Personally, I've vary rarely heard it outside of those communities, thus my original post. Honestly, before this thread started I thought it was just said in those communities and was surprised to even see anyone list it.

You do realize that our grandparents, who did not grow up in hays or ellinwood, say warsh instead of was right?

You're supposed to back me up on here.  :shakesfist:
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #92 on: April 17, 2012, 09:31:34 PM »
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #93 on: April 18, 2012, 10:55:10 AM »
WTF is the "American", but not "American Indian" part of that map?  Is it like where your ancestors were in the year 1800 or what?
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« Reply #94 on: April 18, 2012, 11:38:01 AM »
WTF is the "American", but not "American Indian" part of that map?  Is it like where your ancestors were in the year 1800 or what?

I love the map, and find it very interesting, but yeah, I have no idea what "American" means vs. "American Indian"

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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #95 on: April 18, 2012, 11:44:23 AM »
Whet and wet. 90% of the time in print, when somebody means to use "whet," they say use "wet".

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« Reply #96 on: April 18, 2012, 11:50:23 AM »
WTF is the "American", but not "American Indian" part of that map?  Is it like where your ancestors were in the year 1800 or what?

Apparently "American" ancestry is just a bunch of ignorant southerners:

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Declaring "American" ancestry is most common among white Southerners, who are primarily of English and Scotch-Irish ancestry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ethnicity

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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #97 on: April 18, 2012, 12:00:00 PM »

I like locking warshers better than flat warshers.

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« Reply #98 on: April 18, 2012, 12:07:34 PM »
I had no idea Germans were so successful at taking over.
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Re: People who confuse idea & ideal
« Reply #99 on: April 18, 2012, 12:11:32 PM »
WTF is the "American", but not "American Indian" part of that map?  Is it like where your ancestors were in the year 1800 or what?

Apparently "American" ancestry is just a bunch of ignorant southerners:

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Declaring "American" ancestry is most common among white Southerners, who are primarily of English and Scotch-Irish ancestry.

"I'm from 'Murrica.  I'm 'Murrican."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ethnicity
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