oscar Weber facts

[wetwillie]

yes, we discussed that a long time ago.  DON'T AT WORK!  DO AT HOME!

Oh my, should have listened.

[michigancat]

fact: oscar weber claims he did not know you could be ejected from a fiba game.

[Pete]

fact: oscar weber claims he did not know you could be ejected from a fiba game.

Probably just means that whatever he said was even filthier than we would guess.

[wes mantooth]

Confirmed this weekend that oscar does in fact walk his own dogs

[IlliniTillIDie]

sorry, this is a facts thread, jrake. If you want to start a oscar Weber fantasy-land good vibes thread, please feel free.

oscar weber is a good person, can coach, has failed, lost his team, but will rise again.
john currie asked softball questions during the interview.

Is he?   Is he?

As a bitter Illini fan I would vehemently disagree that oscar Weber is a good person.  I view him as a manipulative and dishonest coward who sold out his players time and time again to excuse his own failures.  I got so tired of hearing him throw players under the bus ... it was such a relief to finally get rid of him, although even then he came after us in the press for not giving him a vote of confidence he did not deserve.

Not to mention, in a post-game presser this season he openly pined for a chance to coach opposing player Robbie Hummel instead of his own players, not mentioning Hummel was a U of I legacy who wanted to play for Weber except Weber reportedly told him he was not good enough to play in the Big Ten. Is it any surprise the team quit on him and we got thumped by Nebraska the next game? 

 http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/GoIllini/20120215_videos_bruce_weber_purdue_postgame_press_conference

oscar Weber can coach at a midmajor level.  Deal with it, but for your own sake don't fool yourself into thinking oscar Weber is a good person.  You don't know oscar Weber.  You don't want to know oscar Weber.  You didnt hire oscar Weber to be a good person.  Just hold the man accountable for what you see on and off the court, and don't let him fool you into lowering your standards.  It is not that hard to make the NCAAS at K State. 

[steve dave]

well, as kstate fans, we are used to our basketball coach throwing players under the bus. 

[8manpick]

It is not that hard to make the NCAAS at K State.

 

[Illiniphil85]

Thanks rake. I've outlined my concerns for Weber, but I don't think he's terrible. I'm warming to him and I will certainly support him.

I agree that his biggest issues are fixing the problems he had at Illinois. IMHO the two main problems were:

1) Why/how did you lose last year's very talented team at Illinois? Specifically your defense, which is what you hang your hat on. It became terrible, giving up 1.07 points per possession over the final 14 games, which is pathetic by any standard. Especially when your team showed that they could play defense well through the first 18 games at .92 PPP.

2) What do you plan to change on offense? It became clear as your tenure at Illinois continued that your offense wasn't working. Gasaway explains those problems very well in this article. Your offense certainly didn't compliment your defense, which was very good your entire time there besides those last 14 games. Even in the sub .500 season of 2008 your defense was solid at .90 PPP. But too often your teams simply couldn't score efficiently enough.

Those weren't his only problems at Illinois and a few of his problems are irreperibile. POS has been a dork all his life and is a disaster in front of a microphone. He should have time to reflect on what went wrong and possibly correct some issues, but he's just like nails on a chalkboard in front of the media.

Good Luck. He had my vote as worst coach in school history after 7 years. The next 2 made it a runaway and that was before he and his surrogates took shots at the AD on the way out.

Enjoy the chicken nuggets.

[IlliniTillIDie]

why is there a facepalm at northwestern 71 - illinois 70, but not a facepalm at northwestern 74 - illinois 70 ?

The face plant should be by the last loss to NW, 74-70.  That was the game where NW had only 6 healthy players.  Despite this, and despite having beaten them on the road with a great performance by our bench, oscar Weber in his infinite wisdom voluntarily matched their six man rotation.  And of course lost in doing so.  Which begs the question, what kind of an idiot VOLUNTARILY uses a six man rotation? 

The lesson:  oscar Weber is maybe not the best at basketball strategy.

[WillieWatanabe]

man, i hope john groce is worth a crap. You guys might all kill yourself otherwise.

[puniraptor]

man, i hope john groce is worth a crap. You guys might all kill yourself otherwise.

I hope john groce is worth a crap because i dont want to see him hired here as soon as they fire him.

[shivvyman]

Factual questions asked by JC during interview/hiring of Weber:

1) What's your favorite color?

2) Tell me about a time you had to make a hard decision. How did you make that decision?

3) What's your favorite Pizza? Cheese or Pepperoni? I love Cheese!

4) How would you describe your coaching style?

5) What's more important, having fun or having fun? Hehe, oscar, easy one there!

[jasn88cubs]

Factual questions asked by JC during interview/hiring of Weber:

1) What's your favorite color?

2) Tell me about a time you had to make a hard decision. How did you make that decision?

3) What's your favorite Pizza? Cheese or Pepperoni? I love Cheese!

4) How would you describe your coaching style?

5) What's more important, having fun or having fun? Hehe, oscar, easy one there!

1) Well I would have to say purple because that's Kansas St's main color! At Purdue it was their gold colpr, SIU was their maroon color, at Illinois it was orange and now it's Purple, but if I don't get this job then it would be whatever the main color is at Charleston Southern!!

2)The last question hahahah. How did I make it? I just figured purple is the main color here so I picked that!

3)ANy kind! It don't matter1 Hot dog pizza, sausage pizza, cheese pizza, tuna pizza, ice cream pizza, fried chicken pizza. I LOVE PIZZA

4)I don't cater to the fans. My game plan sticks the same no matter what's going on

5)Waitttt is this a trick? How about Bill Self sucks!!!

[Chicago Joe]

Illini fan here.
Actually had a chance to meet Coach Weber a few times.  He's a truly decent person, polite and attentive. 
Weber was a fine coach who suffered through some recruiting woes.
Then he lost his last (probably most talented) team midway through the year.
Glad we got Groce.  Weber had to go.
But I think you'll be just fine with him.
Fearless prediction:  9-year wins over/under: 210.
Two Elite Eights.
Winning record vs Kansas.
Losing record vs Texas Tech.

[OK_Cat]

Illini fan here.
Actually had a chance to meet Coach Weber a few times.  He's a truly decent person, polite and attentive. 
Weber was a fine coach who suffered through some recruiting woes.
Then he lost his last (probably most talented) team midway through the year.
Glad we got Groce.  Weber had to go.
But I think you'll be just fine with him.
Fearless prediction:  9-year wins over/under: 210.
Two Elite Eights.
Winning record vs Kansas.
Losing record vs Texas Tech.

lol wut

[ben ji]

Illini fan here.
Actually had a chance to meet Coach Weber a few times.  He's a truly decent person, polite and attentive. 
Weber was a fine coach who suffered through some recruiting woes.
Then he lost his last (probably most talented) team midway through the year.
Glad we got Groce.  Weber had to go.
But I think you'll be just fine with him.
Fearless prediction:  9-year wins over/under: 210.
Two Elite Eights.
Winning record vs Kansas.
Losing record vs Texas Tech.

Good post brad

[pissclams]

Illini fan here.
Actually had a chance to meet Coach Weber a few times.  He's a truly decent person, polite and attentive. 
Weber was a fine coach who suffered through some recruiting woes.
Then he lost his last (probably most talented) team midway through the year.
Glad we got Groce.  Weber had to go.
But I think you'll be just fine with him.
Fearless prediction:  9-year wins over/under: 210.
Two Elite Eights.
Winning record vs Kansas.
Losing record vs Texas Tech.

i'm w/ you chi-town joe

[mocat]

That read like a poem. A poem.

[slobber]

Illini fan here.
Actually had a chance to meet Coach Weber a few times.  He's a truly decent person, polite and attentive. 
Weber was a fine coach who suffered through some recruiting woes.
Then he lost his last (probably most talented) team midway through the year.
Glad we got Groce.  Weber had to go.
But I think you'll be just fine with him.
Fearless prediction:  9-year wins over/under: 210.
Two Elite Eights.
Winning record vs Kansas.
Losing record vs Texas Tech.

Solid 2nd post

[puniraptor]

I guess the scariest part of that to me is imagining that oscar will have a 9 year record here 

[steve dave]

I guess the scariest part of that to me is imagining that oscar will have a 9 year record here 

not very scary with the other qualifiers

[8manpick]

Illini fan here.
Actually had a chance to meet Coach Weber a few times.  He's a truly decent person, polite and attentive. 
Weber was a fine coach who suffered through some recruiting woes.
Then he lost his last (probably most talented) team midway through the year.
Glad we got Groce.  Weber had to go.
But I think you'll be just fine with him.
Fearless prediction:  9-year wins over/under: 210.
Two Elite Eights.
Winning record vs Kansas.
Losing record vs Texas Tech.

Wait, wut?
Bullshit
Bullshit

GTFO, mods, ban this loser.

[puniraptor]

I think recruiting woes means recruiting good players and then making sure they suck.

[Underdog Wildcat]

Jereme Richmond sticking around another year(and getting his crap together) probably would have helped oscar at Illinois.

D.J. Richardson being a decent player but not living up to his Top 50 ranking probably didn't help.

Finishing 2nd on Jon Scheyer didn't help.

Probably biggest "woe" was having Sampson and Indiana swipe Eric Gordon away. 1 and done but still a big time player who might have been able to alter the momentum of their program ala Beasley. Don't think Coach Chester likes him too much.

[Chicago Joe]

Jereme Richmond sticking around another year(and getting his crap together) probably would have helped oscar at Illinois.

D.J. Richardson being a decent player but not living up to his Top 50 ranking probably didn't help.

Finishing 2nd on Jon Scheyer didn't help.

Probably biggest "woe" was having Sampson and Indiana swipe Eric Gordon away. 1 and done but still a big time player who might have been able to alter the momentum of their program ala Beasley. Don't think Coach Chester likes him too much.

Well, not only that stuff, but losing Jamar Smith (now a fringe NBA player), losing Quentin Watkins around the same time, having Demitri McCamey being just good enough (and a 3.5 year starter) to dissuade other PG prospects from coming.  Our backcourt was a mess for a while.
His last team was the most talented he had recruited.  The wheels fell off right after we knocked off Ohio State. 
As to my comments re: Kansas and Texas Tech:  oscar had a great record against MSU, the class of the big 10 during his tenure.  His teams struggled more than they should have against Penn State.