oscar Weber facts

[michigancat]

oscar Weber missed the NCAA tournament 3 times in his last 5 seasons at Illinois.

In the 21 seasons before oscar Weber arrived, Illinois missed the NCAA tournament 4 times.

 

[Pete]

How can this be true?  Does Gene Keaty know this?

[michigancat]

How can this be true?  Does Gene Keaty know this?

Currie apparently did not call the wikipedia offices when looking for something negative about oscar Weber.

[catzacker]

how many houses, other than Illinois, did he burn down with people in them?

[j rake]

i tried to fight it off, but i can't.

i'm a oscar weber fan now and will also root for the cats. i'm a sucker for good people, and weber is a good person.

i hated frank martin and everything he stood for and screamed about. he is a villain, a bully, a complete douchebag and i just don't like him and never did. i hope he fails at south carolina and then is forced to write the definition of loyalty and integrity 10,000 times on a miami senior high blackboard until another school foolishly gives him a chance at redemption.

weber can coach. he really can. pathetically, i have several gmails dated between 2007 and '10 in which i called him one of the top 3 coaches in the big ten and one of the top 20 coaches in the country. i've watched him coach 100 games, and i love his passion and intensity and enthusiasm and - in his final days - his desperation.

for whatever reason, things went off the rails at illinois and he couldn't recover from it. i'm not quite sure what it is, exactly, but weber lost himself and his identity. his message got stale. players started tuning out. the fan base started turning on him. and then, over his final 10 games, his teams played some of the worst basketball i've ever seen - undisciplined, careless, horrible body language, and so on.

but the dude can coach. he's a great teacher. a decent recruiter. his players enjoy playing for him. he fosters a good playing atmosphere and locker room and he's the type of coach a fan base can rally around if they're willing.

i was disappointed when a media member asked weber, "what's the toughest question john currie asked you?" and weber responded, "he asked me, 'why k-state?'"

the toughest question should have been, "what went wrong, and how will you change it?"

and finally, "will it work?"

[steve dave]

oscar Weber missed the NCAA tournament 3 times in his last 5 seasons at Illinois.

In the 21 seasons before oscar Weber arrived, Illinois missed the NCAA tournament 4 times.

 

 

[michigancat]

i tried to fight it off, but i can't.

i'm a oscar weber fan now and will also root for the cats. i'm a sucker for good people, and weber is a good person.

i hated frank martin and everything he stood for and screamed about. he is a villain, a bully, a complete douchebag and i just don't like him and never did. i hope he fails at south carolina and then is forced to write the definition of loyalty and integrity 10,000 times on a miami senior high blackboard until another school foolishly gives him a chance at redemption.

weber can coach. he really can. pathetically, i have several gmails dated between 2007 and '10 in which i called him one of the top 3 coaches in the big ten and one of the top 20 coaches in the country. i've watched him coach 100 games, and i love his passion and intensity and enthusiasm and - in his final days - his desperation.

for whatever reason, things went off the rails at illinois and he couldn't recover from it. i'm not quite sure what it is, exactly, but weber lost himself and his identity. his message got stale. players started tuning out. the fan base started turning on him. and then, over his final 10 games, his teams played some of the worst basketball i've ever seen - undisciplined, careless, horrible body language, and so on.

but the dude can coach. he's a great teacher. a decent recruiter. his players enjoy playing for him. he fosters a good playing atmosphere and locker room and he's the type of coach a fan base can rally around if they're willing.

i was disappointed when a media member asked weber, "what's the toughest question john currie asked you?" and weber responded, "he asked me, 'why k-state?'"

the toughest question should have been, "what went wrong, and how will you change it?"

and finally, "will it work?"

sorry, this is a facts thread, jrake. If you want to start a oscar Weber fantasy-land good vibes thread, please feel free.

[420seriouscat69]

I mean I was utterly pissed when I found out the Hire was Weber. But watching michigancat meltdown on twitter and on the boards makes me feel  like it was all worth it. So entertaining, keep up the good work, mighigancat.

[j rake]

sorry, this is a facts thread, jrake. If you want to start a oscar Weber fantasy-land good vibes thread, please feel free.

those are all facts.

frank martin is a douchebag, a rotten person, and is disloyal and dishonest.
oscar weber is a good person, can coach, has failed, lost his team, but will rise again.
john currie asked softball questions during the interview.

[Winters]

I hate him. My hand still hurts. 

[michigancat]

sorry, this is a facts thread, jrake. If you want to start a oscar Weber fantasy-land good vibes thread, please feel free.

those are all facts.

frank martin is a douchebag, a rotten person, and is disloyal and dishonest.
oscar weber is a good person, can coach, has failed, lost his team, but will rise again.
john currie asked softball questions during the interview.

SOME of what you listed are facts. I bolded the facts about oscar Weber.

[kso_FAN]

i tried to fight it off, but i can't.

i'm a oscar weber fan now and will also root for the cats. i'm a sucker for good people, and weber is a good person.

i hated frank martin and everything he stood for and screamed about. he is a villain, a bully, a complete douchebag and i just don't like him and never did. i hope he fails at south carolina and then is forced to write the definition of loyalty and integrity 10,000 times on a miami senior high blackboard until another school foolishly gives him a chance at redemption.

weber can coach. he really can. pathetically, i have several gmails dated between 2007 and '10 in which i called him one of the top 3 coaches in the big ten and one of the top 20 coaches in the country. i've watched him coach 100 games, and i love his passion and intensity and enthusiasm and - in his final days - his desperation.

for whatever reason, things went off the rails at illinois and he couldn't recover from it. i'm not quite sure what it is, exactly, but weber lost himself and his identity. his message got stale. players started tuning out. the fan base started turning on him. and then, over his final 10 games, his teams played some of the worst basketball i've ever seen - undisciplined, careless, horrible body language, and so on.

but the dude can coach. he's a great teacher. a decent recruiter. his players enjoy playing for him. he fosters a good playing atmosphere and locker room and he's the type of coach a fan base can rally around if they're willing.

i was disappointed when a media member asked weber, "what's the toughest question john currie asked you?" and weber responded, "he asked me, 'why k-state?'"

the toughest question should have been, "what went wrong, and how will you change it?"

and finally, "will it work?"

Thanks rake. I've outlined my concerns for Weber, but I don't think he's terrible. I'm warming to him and I will certainly support him.

I agree that his biggest issues are fixing the problems he had at Illinois. IMHO the two main problems were:

1) Why/how did you lose last year's very talented team at Illinois? Specifically your defense, which is what you hang your hat on. It became terrible, giving up 1.07 points per possession over the final 14 games, which is pathetic by any standard. Especially when your team showed that they could play defense well through the first 18 games at .92 PPP.

2) What do you plan to change on offense? It became clear as your tenure at Illinois continued that your offense wasn't working. Gasaway explains those problems very well in this article. Your offense certainly didn't compliment your defense, which was very good your entire time there besides those last 14 games. Even in the sub .500 season of 2008 your defense was solid at .90 PPP. But too often your teams simply couldn't score efficiently enough.

[LickNeckey]

i'm sad 

i try not to be but i just can't shake it

[steve dave]

fact:  his voice is weird and he seems uncomfortable talking in public

[steve dave]

fact:  he brought his wife and crying kids to his firing press conference thing. 

fact:  that is a very weird thing to do.

[pissclams]

one option (the funnest) we have, is to to go absurdly over the top in our support for oscar.  when i think about it, it sounds like a really, really good idea.

[420seriouscat69]

Fact: Weber doesn't know who the eff ernie barrett is. 

[steve dave]

fact:  he mows his own yard, does his own shopping, walks his own dog

opinion: should just concentrate on recruiting/coaching and leave that stuff to his wife and poor people that do it for a living

[mocat]

fact: he pulls off the "fuckface" look so effortlessly, by god you'd think he's the one that invented it

[Winters]

Fact: oscar Weber is addicted to chewing tabacco.

[Cartierfor3]

i tried to fight it off, but i can't.

i'm a oscar weber fan now and will also root for the cats. i'm a sucker for good people, and weber is a good person.

i hated frank martin and everything he stood for and screamed about. he is a villain, a bully, a complete douchebag and i just don't like him and never did. i hope he fails at south carolina and then is forced to write the definition of loyalty and integrity 10,000 times on a miami senior high blackboard until another school foolishly gives him a chance at redemption.

weber can coach. he really can. pathetically, i have several gmails dated between 2007 and '10 in which i called him one of the top 3 coaches in the big ten and one of the top 20 coaches in the country. i've watched him coach 100 games, and i love his passion and intensity and enthusiasm and - in his final days - his desperation.

for whatever reason, things went off the rails at illinois and he couldn't recover from it. i'm not quite sure what it is, exactly, but weber lost himself and his identity. his message got stale. players started tuning out. the fan base started turning on him. and then, over his final 10 games, his teams played some of the worst basketball i've ever seen - undisciplined, careless, horrible body language, and so on.

but the dude can coach. he's a great teacher. a decent recruiter. his players enjoy playing for him. he fosters a good playing atmosphere and locker room and he's the type of coach a fan base can rally around if they're willing.

i was disappointed when a media member asked weber, "what's the toughest question john currie asked you?" and weber responded, "he asked me, 'why k-state?'"

the toughest question should have been, "what went wrong, and how will you change it?"

and finally, "will it work?"

Thanks rake. I've outlined my concerns for Weber, but I don't think he's terrible. I'm warming to him and I will certainly support him.

I agree that his biggest issues are fixing the problems he had at Illinois. IMHO the two main problems were:

1) Why/how did you lose last year's very talented team at Illinois? Specifically your defense, which is what you hang your hat on. It became terrible, giving up 1.07 points per possession over the final 14 games, which is pathetic by any standard. Especially when your team showed that they could play defense well through the first 18 games at .92 PPP.

2) What do you plan to change on offense? It became clear as your tenure at Illinois continued that your offense wasn't working. Gasaway explains those problems very well in this article. Your offense certainly didn't compliment your defense, which was very good your entire time there besides those last 14 games. Even in the sub .500 season of 2008 your defense was solid at .90 PPP. But too often your teams simply couldn't score efficiently enough.

Listen, I'll support the guy and hope he wins a bunch of games.  Despite a disastrous PC, he seems like a genuinely good guy.  I'm not going to stop being a K St fan and I will continue to follow the team.

But when you list his 2 biggest problems as defense and offense, it's not really getting me psyched about the BW era.  I mean, come on, his issues at Illinois were they couldn't defend or score?  I mean.  Man.  That's a depressing post. 

[michigancat]

Fact: oscar Weber does not seem like a good guy.

Fact: oscar Weber's previous employer is paying him $3.9 million to not coach their team.

[catzacker]

one option (the funnest) we have, is to to go absurdly over the top in our support for oscar.  when i think about it, it sounds like a really, really good idea.

this seems like a "laughing at him, not with him" approach.  that might work to medicate me through the next few years.

[Dugout DickStone]

Fact: He was getting interest from the College of Charlestown when we hired him at $1.5 million.

[Cartierfor3]

Fact: oscar Weber's previous employer is paying him $3.9 million to not coach their team.

Fact: He was getting interest from the College of Charlestown when we hired him at $1.5 million.

Yeah these posts are depressing me too.