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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #125 on: April 02, 2012, 09:33:25 PM »
Who knows, oscar Weber could turn out to be great. There's no reason to expect it, but stranger things have happened.

What stranger things have happened?

A high major school coming off 3 straight NCAA appearances hiring a coach who had just been fired from another high major school. And a high major coach leaving a school that had made 3 straight tournaments for another high major school that hadn't made an appearance in 8 years :dunno:

When you sum it up like that I  :barf:

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #126 on: April 02, 2012, 09:34:46 PM »
My last post was long winded and probably unreadable (however quite therapeutic).

Two questions?

1. Do you believe JC has KSU's best interest at heart?

2. Do you believe his hire reflects this?

That is all I care about, and my unfortunate answer is no. 
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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #127 on: April 02, 2012, 09:35:34 PM »
You're a good company guy CC. I'm glad you post here.

But this hire is terrible. oscar Weber is terrible. And in the end when it's proven correct, then you have to ask yourself: Who actually did more damage to KSU?

A guy who broke a sink or organized a protest banner? Or the guy who hired the guy who sent KSU basketball back to the shitter?

I know the answer already.

again, as 42 already stated, it was an accident. i was 5 feet from it and tweeted we were "doing work" as a joke.

it wouldn't have happened at all if whoever organized that sideshow had moved the ice and smoothie machines from out in front of the tv and had turned the volume to an acceptable level. perhaps the whole thing was rushed just a little bit  :dunno:
"I started calling him John during the game, cause he was rocking it like No. 7 -- like Elway," Harper said."

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #128 on: April 02, 2012, 09:37:51 PM »
You're a good company guy CC. I'm glad you post here.

But this hire is terrible. oscar Weber is terrible. And in the end when it's proven correct, then you have to ask yourself: Who actually did more damage to KSU?

A guy who broke a sink or organized a protest banner? Or the guy who hired the guy who sent KSU basketball back to the shitter?

I know the answer already.

again, as 42 already stated, it was an accident. i was 5 feet from it and tweeted we were "doing work" as a joke.

it wouldn't have happened at all if whoever organized that sideshow had moved the ice and smoothie machines from out in front of the tv and had turned the volume to an acceptable level. perhaps the whole thing was rushed just a little bit  :dunno:

I know you want to minimize liability, jdub, but be proud of what you did.  That sink and John Currie's face both had it coming. 
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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #129 on: April 02, 2012, 09:39:21 PM »
listening to oscar on kk today he talked about being at the FF and speaking with currie and mentioning that Friday night Currie Rushing or something of the sort to get all this done. That's bullshit, this was no search.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #130 on: April 02, 2012, 09:40:21 PM »
You're a good company guy CC. I'm glad you post here.

But this hire is terrible. oscar Weber is terrible. And in the end when it's proven correct, then you have to ask yourself: Who actually did more damage to KSU?

A guy who broke a sink or organized a protest banner? Or the guy who hired the guy who sent KSU basketball back to the shitter?

I know the answer already.

again, as 42 already stated, it was an accident. i was 5 feet from it and tweeted we were "doing work" as a joke.

it wouldn't have happened at all if whoever organized that sideshow had moved the ice and smoothie machines from out in front of the tv and had turned the volume to an acceptable level. perhaps the whole thing was rushed just a little bit  :dunno:

I know you want to minimize liability, jdub, but be proud of what you did.  That sink and John Currie's face both had it coming.

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"I started calling him John during the game, cause he was rocking it like No. 7 -- like Elway," Harper said."

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #131 on: April 02, 2012, 09:48:50 PM »
How much money will Weber make from all sources that we know of in the next 365 days (assuming he gets tot he Sweet 16 which anyone in the country could do with the returning players)?

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #132 on: April 02, 2012, 09:50:51 PM »
Love how this AD just pisses our our heads and tries to tell us it is raining. The whole calm down and see what shakes out just infuriates me more.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #133 on: April 02, 2012, 09:54:28 PM »
The whole calm down and see what shakes out just infuriates me more.

If you don't, you are a crazy dick who hates his school. 

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #134 on: April 02, 2012, 09:57:44 PM »
i've defended you in the past, cc, but eff you.


it is not possible to support kstate athletics without supporting currie.  they are one and the same, the only rational response possible to someone who loves kstate basketball is to hope currie and weber fail as quickly and spectacularly as possible.  let them die, kstate will still be here when they are gone.
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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #135 on: April 02, 2012, 09:59:20 PM »
i've defended you in the past, cc, but eff you.


it is not possible to support kstate athletics without supporting currie.  they are one and the same, the only rational response possible to someone who loves kstate basketball is to hope currie and weber fail as quickly and spectacularly as possible.  let them die, kstate will still be here when they are gone.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #136 on: April 02, 2012, 10:04:20 PM »
i've defended you in the past, cc, but eff you.


it is not possible to support kstate athletics without supporting currie.  they are one and the same, the only rational response possible to someone who loves kstate basketball is to hope currie and weber fail as quickly and spectacularly as possible.  let them die, kstate will still be here when they are gone.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #137 on: April 02, 2012, 10:07:04 PM »
Who knows, oscar Weber could turn out to be great. There's no reason to expect it, but stranger things have happened.

What stranger things have happened?

A high major school coming off 3 straight NCAA appearances hiring a coach who had just been fired from another high major school. And a high major coach leaving a school that had made 3 straight tournaments for another high major school that hadn't made an appearance in 8 years :dunno:

When you sum it up like that I  :barf:

I know right :bawl:

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #138 on: April 02, 2012, 10:24:05 PM »
Cc we just hired turner gill, quit trying to defend it.  We are not changing our minds and currie will be gone within two years.
I would argue that TG was not a known commodity.  We have a fairly good track record of what we just got with BW.

Yeah. Greg Robinson would be a much better comparison.
excellent comparo.  The day Syracuse hired him as head coach was the only time I have felt any sympathy for Soren Petro.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #139 on: April 02, 2012, 10:27:54 PM »
Cc we just hired turner gill, quit trying to defend it.  We are not changing our minds and currie will be gone within two years.
I would argue that TG was not a known commodity.  We have a fairly good track record of what we just got with BW.

Yeah. Greg Robinson would be a much better comparison.
excellent comparo.  The day Syracuse hired him as head coach was the only time I have felt any sympathy for Soren Petro.

Also Houston Nutt is pretty good.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #140 on: April 02, 2012, 10:32:14 PM »
Cc we just hired turner gill, quit trying to defend it.  We are not changing our minds and currie will be gone within two years.
I would argue that TG was not a known commodity.  We have a fairly good track record of what we just got with BW.

Yeah. Greg Robinson would be a much better comparison.
excellent comparo.  The day Syracuse hired him as head coach was the only time I have felt any sympathy for Soren Petro.

Also Houston Nutt is pretty good.
yeah, but Nutt at least beat the posse out of town.  At least you can try and tell yourself the coach liked your schools situation in when that happens.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #141 on: April 02, 2012, 10:35:42 PM »
Cc we just hired turner gill, quit trying to defend it.  We are not changing our minds and currie will be gone within two years.
I would argue that TG was not a known commodity.  We have a fairly good track record of what we just got with BW.

Yeah. Greg Robinson would be a much better comparison.
excellent comparo.  The day Syracuse hired him as head coach was the only time I have felt any sympathy for Soren Petro.

Also Houston Nutt is pretty good.
yeah, but Nutt at least beat the posse out of town.  At least you can try and tell yourself the coach liked your schools situation in when that happens.

good point

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #142 on: April 02, 2012, 10:45:37 PM »
Cc we just hired turner gill, quit trying to defend it.  We are not changing our minds and currie will be gone within two years.
I would argue that TG was not a known commodity.  We have a fairly good track record of what we just got with BW.

Yeah. Greg Robinson would be a much better comparison.
excellent comparo.  The day Syracuse hired him as head coach was the only time I have felt any sympathy for Soren Petro.

Also Houston Nutt is pretty good.
yeah, but Nutt at least beat the posse out of town.  At least you can try and tell yourself the coach liked your schools situation in when that happens.

good point

Charlie Weis had Currie had the opportunity at him immediately after getting fired from Notre Dame.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #143 on: April 02, 2012, 11:01:22 PM »
This thread just pisses my off even more. Frank leaving, whatever. I was super pissed, but if it was a bad situation that wasnt going to get better, whatever. But between his lying and his horrible horrible hire, with zero appreciation for this university, I'm done with him. Even if he doesn't really think he's an AD of a university full of morons and he's just biding his time to move on to a job he actually cares about, he should really stop acting like it because it's pissing us all off.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #144 on: April 02, 2012, 11:04:18 PM »
i've defended you in the past, cc, but eff you.


it is not possible to support kstate athletics without supporting currie.  they are one and the same, the only rational response possible to someone who loves kstate basketball is to hope currie and weber fail as quickly and spectacularly as possible.  let them die, kstate will still be here when they are gone.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #145 on: April 02, 2012, 11:18:31 PM »
Thanks for sharing your info and opinions cc.
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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #146 on: April 02, 2012, 11:21:24 PM »
This thread just pisses my off even more. Frank leaving, whatever. I was super pissed, but if it was a bad situation that wasnt going to get better, whatever. But between his lying and his horrible horrible hire, with zero appreciation for this university, I'm done with him. Even if he doesn't really think he's an AD of a university full of morons and he's just biding his time to move on to a job he actually cares about, he should really stop acting like it because it's pissing us all off.

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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #147 on: April 02, 2012, 11:29:39 PM »
Guys, if you really hate Currie and want him gone (totally reasonable and I agree), then shouldn't we want Weber to succeed greatly for two seasons and allow Currie to take off for greener pastures? Then we might attract an actually good AD who might care about KSU basketball while Currie can burn some other unsuspecting place to the ground.

This seems infinitely more likely to happen than Weber being awful and Currie being fired quickly. Schulz is culpable here. He knows that. He's going to let it play out until it's indisputably a failure and even then I'm not sure Currie would be gone if he's bringing in money as he has to this point.

I know it's unlikely, but should oscar Weber prove to be a good hire in subsequent years, wouldn't that make us happy? I like K-State hoops to be good. And should he not, then at least we'd have a good chance at having a new AD in place to make the next hire once Currie has left with Weber hire initially deemed a success.

This whole "I hope the basketball team sucks today so Currie is fired" thing really doesn't make much sense to me. If this ship is sinking, don't we want it to be at the bottom of the shallow end so we can pull it back out pretty quickly instead of having it at the pit of the ocean?

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« Reply #148 on: April 02, 2012, 11:45:24 PM »
Was just a matter of time.  This place isn't going to get any more currie-friendly now and it is obvs that CC respects Currie and Currie's work.

 :facepalm: Has nothing to do with Currie. You guys are so pissed about f-ing Gottlieb you've just turned into this total mob mentality over his name. I get that you liked Frank and don't like oscar. Fine. But you guys are praising people who purposefully destroyed K-State property, encouraging people to go to games and boo, thinking of ways to pull funding from facility projects.. I mean, these are things that in no way help K-State, a place you supposedly care about. This is not how you act about a place you love. At all. All because you believe the ends would justify the means?  :jerk:

I'm sorry, I have zero interest in coming on here now because there's no more room for rational talk about anything. This thread sealed it for me -- if you can't even praise this west side project because of a goddam TV ANALYST not being hired, then there's no point. You're past coherent thought.

K-State always comes first for me, not an AD or a coach. I'm willing to let BW prove his worth before I judge him or Currie's hire. K-State has just had arguably the two best overall seasons in Athletics in school history back-to-back. And some of you I truly believe would physically injure Currie gleefully because a goddam TV ANALYST wasn't hired as a coach. Just... pathetic.

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I know I'm going a ways back in this thread...

I get the K-State first part... but if that's the case then you should be pissed Henson didn't get a sniff. And three days... are you joking? Who would have thought any different between 3 days and 5 days or 7 days? Don't say it's because of the players... for fucks sake. From what we've heard, they were just happy Frank was gone. There's too much about this hire to just turn a blind eye to. Bottom line, John Currie either got played and is partially incompetent at his job or John Currie Thinks You're Stupid™.


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Re: Hiring Process Discussion with CC
« Reply #149 on: April 02, 2012, 11:47:48 PM »
John Currie Thinks You're Stupid™.