The Official War Against John Currie Thread

[Stevesie60]

The student body is not our target. Billboard would get media attention, townie attention, and eventually big donor attention.

[p1k3]

I appreciate Rams' point of view. We cant afford to screw this up. Im a fan of doing something, and maybe a billboard/website combo will work. Maybe not. But something must be done ASAP. Curries affect on football is the most important thing right now. We can not afford to have him rough ridin' us over again where it really really counts.

[Rams]

I appreciate Rams' point of view. We cant afford to screw this up. Im a fan of doing something, and maybe a billboard/website combo will work. Maybe not. But something must be done ASAP. Curries affect on football is the most important thing right now. We can not afford to have him rough ridin' us over again where it really really counts.

I appreciate the reaction and the passion.  I really do.  I just think there's a better way to go about it.  This is more like politics than anything else.  You have to try and take the emotion out of it and try to figure out the best way to achieve your end goal.  Really, your end goal is to either have Currie change the way he does business, or GTFO.  Step 1 should be to be professional and political about it.  Try and be courteous to him and let him know that you really feel like your voice isn't being heard and you have some major concerns about the way he's going about things.  Make him understand how much influence we have over the most passionate and visible fans.  Make him understand that what we may lack in financial resources, we make up for in sheer numbers and voices.  Make him understand that a form letter isn't OK and we deserve to have our concerns addressed.  Tell him we deserve ACTUAL transparency.  If that doesn't work, move on to step 2.  You don't go directly to last step, which is billboards and organized firing campaigns.  If you immediately go on the offensive, you lose all chance of having your voice heard and force him to go on the defensive.  And let's face it...he has more power than we do as long as he has the support of Schultz.

In sum, it makes zero sense to skip immediately to the most extreme strategy especially when you know that strategy has virtually no chance of success.  Because once you skip all the previous steps, you can't go back.  You have to get your hands dirty in politics and sometimes you have to try and make friends with people you don't like in order to influence them.  Then you gradually ramp up the pressure and anger.  The last step is "War."  Using War and anger as the initial reaction is immature, unintelligent and wreaks of attention whoring.

Again, I support the mission, I just think there's a more effective way of going about it.

[unleashthemob]

right now I feel helpless, WTF? some want to play the wait and see, and some are in the eff it mode...I rough ridin' hate john currie...people are so rough ridin' stupid.  Why can't people see him for what he is? He didn't build crap! He used his slimy used car man's skills for his own attention, and now he's using those same skills to sell his lazy, and uninspiring hire of a shitty has been who was ready to take a job at rough ridin' SMU...I. for one did not like the hire of Ron Prince because I saw right through his BS used car selling skills, win over people. with charm blah...rough ridin'...blah....people kept saying give him a chance...eff that! I said the same about currie, and pissed so many people off....people like ron and john find the kstate's of the world because they can use egos to make people look stupid. The only way to get to people like this is by attacking their ego...People have to make themselves heard whether others like it or not....The wait and see method might be deviating to our University...weather we liked it or nor, we were lucky to have Snyder to put a bandage on the prince abortion failure, but next time, if Johnny eff wad makes a choice, there won't be a fall back plan, Johnny wad will move on,and we will be left with cleaning up the crap...the time is now...we have to come up with real solutions or EMAW is dead....we love kstate more than the tucks because were willing to take the criticism...

[puniraptor]

What's Currie's middle name? I would like to start referring to him by 3 names like the assassin that he is.

[Dugout DickStone]

I have seen online petitions get some attention.  Anyone familiar?  I know it like stopped Bank of America from charging some fees or something.

[Trim]

I appreciate Rams' point of view. We cant afford to screw this up. Im a fan of doing something, and maybe a billboard/website combo will work. Maybe not. But something must be done ASAP. Curries affect on football is the most important thing right now. We can not afford to have him rough ridin' us over again where it really really counts.

I appreciate the reaction and the passion.  I really do.  I just think there's a better way to go about it.  This is more like politics than anything else.  You have to try and take the emotion out of it and try to figure out the best way to achieve your end goal.  Really, your end goal is to either have Currie change the way he does business, or GTFO.  Step 1 should be to be professional and political about it.  Try and be courteous to him and let him know that you really feel like your voice isn't being heard and you have some major concerns about the way he's going about things.  Make him understand how much influence we have over the most passionate and visible fans.  Make him understand that what we may lack in financial resources, we make up for in sheer numbers and voices.  Make him understand that a form letter isn't OK and we deserve to have our concerns addressed.  Tell him we deserve ACTUAL transparency.  If that doesn't work, move on to step 2.  You don't go directly to last step, which is billboards and organized firing campaigns.  If you immediately go on the offensive, you lose all chance of having your voice heard and force him to go on the defensive.  And let's face it...he has more power than we do as long as he has the support of Schultz.

In sum, it makes zero sense to skip immediately to the most extreme strategy especially when you know that strategy has virtually no chance of success.  Because once you skip all the previous steps, you can't go back.  You have to get your hands dirty in politics and sometimes you have to try and make friends with people you don't like in order to influence them.  Then you gradually ramp up the pressure and anger.  The last step is "War."  Using War and anger as the initial reaction is immature, unintelligent and wreaks of attention whoring.

Again, I support the mission, I just think there's a more effective way of going about it.

His tenure has unquestionably proven that Step 1 is a waste of time. 

We all already agree that Step 2 isn't going to result in him being fired.  It is the humiliation that follows step 2 that will make his life suck so that he leaves sooner than later AND keeps the pressure on him and counters his PR for children efforts that we'll be bombarded with.  I envision that every time he says something, media and fans will be checking johncurriehatesemaw.com for the breakdown of the lies and condescension in his statement.

Some of you are making this more complicated than - at least what I think - it is.  He's an bad person to us.  We'll be assholes to him. 

It's impractical to choke him out like I normally would to somebody who's wronged me.  Billboards and banners and websites and PI make me feel a little better.

[bruce]

Whitlock is on Frank's side:

http://www.foxsportsradio.com/pages/jasonwhitlock/index.html?uri=channels/449784/1636774

Skip to 47min in and he talks briefly about how all NCAA coaches should have violations.

[Ira Hayes]

Is the rec center on fire?  Is this the beginning?   

[Rams]

I have seen online petitions get some attention.  Anyone familiar?  I know it like stopped Bank of America from charging some fees or something.

Can't tell if serious, but that would be part of step 1, imo.  Set out a list of reasonable things you want to see changed and start a social networking campaign to get people to sign it.  Make him understand that this isn't just a few random pissed off college students and 30-something alums sending unorganized emails.  There's a lot of anger at Currie right now and you need to make it easy for lazy asses to show their anger.  It doesn't get any easier than signing an online petition with a list of pre-determined demands.  Then flood Twitter and Facebook. 

[Dugout DickStone]

I have seen online petitions get some attention.  Anyone familiar?  I know it like stopped Bank of America from charging some fees or something.

Can't tell if serious, but that would be part of step 1, imo.  Set out a list of reasonable things you want to see changed and start a social networking campaign to get people to sign it.  Make him understand that this isn't just a few random pissed off college students and 30-something alums sending unorganized emails.  There's a lot of anger at Currie right now and you need to make it easy for lazy asses to show their anger.  It doesn't get any easier than signing an online petition with a list of pre-determined demands.  Then flood Twitter and Facebook. 

I actually am serious.  It is a start, and it is free.

[Rams]

I have seen online petitions get some attention.  Anyone familiar?  I know it like stopped Bank of America from charging some fees or something.

Can't tell if serious, but that would be part of step 1, imo.  Set out a list of reasonable things you want to see changed and start a social networking campaign to get people to sign it.  Make him understand that this isn't just a few random pissed off college students and 30-something alums sending unorganized emails.  There's a lot of anger at Currie right now and you need to make it easy for lazy asses to show their anger.  It doesn't get any easier than signing an online petition with a list of pre-determined demands.  Then flood Twitter and Facebook. 

I actually am serious.  It is a start, and it is free.

And if it doesn't work you have a lot more people pissed off that THEIR demands weren't heard.  Grow your army before you wage your war.  People are lazy.  You have to make it easy for them to join the cause. 

[unleashthemob]

I agree with a online petition, but it needs to get started while people are upset otherwise people will just settle...

[Rams]

I agree with a online petition, but it needs to get started while people are upset otherwise people will just settle...

This I completely agree with.  There were a LOT of pissed off people right after Jamargate and Frank leaving.  Those not-as-passionate fans are getting less and less pissed every day.  You have to strike while the iron's hot and it's getting cooler and cooler by the minute.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Well, I should've seen that coming. This is what I get for indulging whatever youthful idealism I had left, I guess.

You gotta strike while the iron is hot.  It's a good lesson to learn.

Currie is very good at what he does and I give him a world of credit for it. 

He knows he can manipulate the mass of simpletons in our fan base to his advantage.  Deny some KORA requests to cover up the controversy, go on 810 with BITB to field some softballs, have feel good news conference to update the football stadium, etc.  Most AD's wouldn't have the stones to run off the most popular coach in decades to basketball purgatory and then hire a guy like oscar Weber, but give him some props for his keen awareness of their stupidity, the willingness to be lied to, and the threshold for accepting the status quo of our fan base. 

The guy really is good, folks.

Guys, I just listened to BITB's interviews w/ Currie and Weber. The three of them basically destroyed goEMAW / the too-cool-for-schoolers and all of the tired anti-Currie / anti-Weber talking points.

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[steve dave]

Well, I should've seen that coming. This is what I get for indulging whatever youthful idealism I had left, I guess.

You gotta strike while the iron is hot.  It's a good lesson to learn.

Currie is very good at what he does and I give him a world of credit for it. 

He knows he can manipulate the mass of simpletons in our fan base to his advantage.  Deny some KORA requests to cover up the controversy, go on 810 with BITB to field some softballs, have feel good news conference to update the football stadium, etc.  Most AD's wouldn't have the stones to run off the most popular coach in decades to basketball purgatory and then hire a guy like oscar Weber, but give him some props for his keen awareness of their stupidity, the willingness to be lied to, and the threshold for accepting the status quo of our fan base. 

The guy really is good, folks.

Guys, I just listened to BITB's interviews w/ Currie and Weber. The three of them basically destroyed goEMAW / the too-cool-for-schoolers and all of the tired anti-Currie / anti-Weber talking points.

Sent from my TI-82 using TapaTalk

 

[tuck34]

lotta "all hat and no cattle" in this thread - lol

mc"crock"er with the biggest hat . . .

[Barry McCockner]

right now I feel helpless, WTF? some want to play the wait and see, and some are in the eff it mode...I rough ridin' hate john currie...people are so rough ridin' stupid.  Why can't people see him for what he is? He didn't build crap! He used his slimy used car man's skills for his own attention, and now he's using those same skills to sell his lazy, and uninspiring hire of a shitty has been who was ready to take a job at rough ridin' SMU...I. for one did not like the hire of Ron Prince because I saw right through his BS used car selling skills, win over people. with charm blah...rough ridin'...blah....people kept saying give him a chance...eff that! I said the same about currie, and pissed so many people off....people like ron and john find the kstate's of the world because they can use egos to make people look stupid. The only way to get to people like this is by attacking their ego...People have to make themselves heard whether others like it or not....The wait and see method might be deviating to our University...weather we liked it or nor, we were lucky to have Snyder to put a bandage on the prince abortion failure, but next time, if Johnny eff wad makes a choice, there won't be a fall back plan, Johnny wad will move on,and we will be left with cleaning up the crap...the time is now...we have to come up with real solutions or EMAW is dead....we love kstate more than the tucks because were willing to take the criticism...

...you and me bro.

[tuck34]

right now I feel helpless, WTF? some want to play the wait and see, and some are in the eff it mode...I rough ridin' hate john currie...people are so rough ridin' stupid.  Why can't people see him for what he is? He didn't build crap! He used his slimy used car man's skills for his own attention, and now he's using those same skills to sell his lazy, and uninspiring hire of a shitty has been who was ready to take a job at rough ridin' SMU...I. for one did not like the hire of Ron Prince because I saw right through his BS used car selling skills, win over people. with charm blah...rough ridin'...blah....people kept saying give him a chance...eff that! I said the same about currie, and pissed so many people off....people like ron and john find the kstate's of the world because they can use egos to make people look stupid. The only way to get to people like this is by attacking their ego...People have to make themselves heard whether others like it or not....The wait and see method might be deviating to our University...weather we liked it or nor, we were lucky to have Snyder to put a bandage on the prince abortion failure, but next time, if Johnny eff wad makes a choice, there won't be a fall back plan, Johnny wad will move on,and we will be left with cleaning up the crap...the time is now...we have to come up with real solutions or EMAW is dead....we love kstate more than the tucks because were willing to take the criticism...

...you and me bro.

how tough is it to go break another sink? lol 

[felix rex]

I agree with a online petition, but it needs to get started while people are upset otherwise people will just settle...

This I completely agree with.  There were a LOT of pissed off people right after Jamargate and Frank leaving.  Those not-as-passionate fans are getting less and less pissed every day.  You have to strike while the iron's hot and it's getting cooler and cooler by the minute.

This is true. If there's anything more reliable than my fickleness, it's my ability to procrastinate on something until I forget about it.

[kim carnes]

I agree with a online petition, but it needs to get started while people are upset otherwise people will just settle...

This I completely agree with.  There were a LOT of pissed off people right after Jamargate and Frank leaving.  Those not-as-passionate fans are getting less and less pissed every day.  You have to strike while the iron's hot and it's getting cooler and cooler by the minute.

This is true. If there's anything more reliable than my fickleness, it's my ability to procrastinate on something until I forget about it.

I, for one, am completely over it and am in full support of Currie and Weber.   Also, I care way more than the average kstate fan.   Everyone should move on and forget about this.

[nicname]

Still, not supporting Currie.  He doesn't care about us.  web of lies is a great idea.

[Stevesie60]

For every fire alarm on campus, we should put tape over the word "alarm" and write "Currie". Same for fire exits.

[sonofdaxjones]

Haven't heard a dis-association story yet . . . pretty weak effort here.

Sad

[8manpick]

For every fire alarm on campus, we should put tape over the word "alarm" and write "Currie". Same for fire exits.

I like this idea.