The Official War Against John Currie Thread

[bruce]

This is a complete waste of time, resources and credibility.  What happens if this doesn't work and Weber starts actually sinking the program into SLTHiness? If you try this crap again all the donors to the cause and everyone you're hoping to influence will just say "eff it, it didn't work last time and I'm not wasting anymore time or money." or they will say "Oh, those are just those same jackasses that bought a billboard and tried to have Currie fired right after he hired Weber."  If you wait until you ACTUALLY have a shitty record to point to, you might be able to sway some opinions, but it's a complete waste of credibility right now.  You only get one shot at this before you become "those immature idiots that do this every 3 years or so" and people start laughing it off.  Wait until you actually have a chance of succeeding.

Whatever though.  Good luck.

Game over.  Currie has won.  The 'wait and see' spin has been a success and he'll be off to a better SEC school in two years (prior to the 'wait and see' window being closed).  Well played, John Currie and co.

[AzCat]

I'm fine with the website having an asterisk'd clause within it asserting that captain crap should be retained by the new regime.

Pfft.  He's an astroturfing champ, Currie is going to need him at his next gig.  What's the point of being a sycophant if there's never a payoff? 

[Trim]

I'm fine with the website having an asterisk'd clause within it asserting that captain crap should be retained by the new regime.

Pfft.  He's an astroturfing champ, Currie is going to need him at his next gig.  What's the point of being a sycophant if there's never a payoff? 

I just saw him lurking so I figured I'd throw that in.

Rams, it's not about Weber's 2012-13 record or even Weber at all. 

[Barry McCockner]

Well, eff you all right into a couple of decades of meh.  I'll be forced to watch the same bullshit as everyone else, but at least I'll be able to do it with a heart full of hatred for the regime.  My rage has not subsided, and I'm still on board for doing a good chunk of the fundraising, but I don't do websites, design billboards, etc, so if it's just me, it's not going to happen.  I never rough ridin' dreamed goEMAW would go this soft.  I'm not sure how in the hell you can grow so complacent in 2 days that you are going to tolerate Currie running the show and shoving hires like this right up our ass with that rough ridin' smirk on his face the whole time.  Candyasses.  oscar rough ridin' Weber....eff.  Unbelievable.  You fuckers bitched about Franks recruiting and whatnot (and I did too) for the last 2 or 3 years, and now you're willing to accept this?  Currie has burnt your pride to ashes before his bitch Weber has even gotten started burning down the program.  Unreal.  eff.

[Barry McCockner]

This is a complete waste of time, resources and credibility.  What happens if this doesn't work and Weber starts actually sinking the program into SLTHiness? If you try this crap again all the donors to the cause and everyone you're hoping to influence will just say "eff it, it didn't work last time and I'm not wasting anymore time or money." or they will say "Oh, those are just those same jackasses that bought a billboard and tried to have Currie fired right after he hired Weber."  If you wait until you ACTUALLY have a shitty record to point to, you might be able to sway some opinions, but it's a complete waste of credibility right now.  You only get one shot at this before you become "those immature idiots that do this every 3 years or so" and people start laughing it off.  Wait until you actually have a chance of succeeding.

Whatever though.  Good luck.

Game over.  Currie has won.  The 'wait and see' spin has been a success and he'll be off to a better SEC school in two years (prior to the 'wait and see' window being closed).  Well played, John Currie and co.

You do realize he may get a chance to hire our next football coach before then, and you "thank you sir, may I have another" bitches better just sit there and bite the pillow quietly.

[bruce]

This is a complete waste of time, resources and credibility.  What happens if this doesn't work and Weber starts actually sinking the program into SLTHiness? If you try this crap again all the donors to the cause and everyone you're hoping to influence will just say "eff it, it didn't work last time and I'm not wasting anymore time or money." or they will say "Oh, those are just those same jackasses that bought a billboard and tried to have Currie fired right after he hired Weber."  If you wait until you ACTUALLY have a shitty record to point to, you might be able to sway some opinions, but it's a complete waste of credibility right now.  You only get one shot at this before you become "those immature idiots that do this every 3 years or so" and people start laughing it off.  Wait until you actually have a chance of succeeding.

Whatever though.  Good luck.

Game over.  Currie has won.  The 'wait and see' spin has been a success and he'll be off to a better SEC school in two years (prior to the 'wait and see' window being closed).  Well played, John Currie and co.

You do realize he may get a chance to hire our next football coach before then, and you "thank you sir, may I have another" bitches better just sit there and bite the pillow quietly.

So you're saying he won't go for a Herbstreit/Venzy pairing for fball since he passed on Gottlieb/Underwood for hoops?

[0.42]

Well, eff you all right into a couple of decades of meh.  I'll be forced to watch the same bullshit as everyone else, but at least I'll be able to do it with a heart full of hatred for the regime.  My rage has not subsided, and I'm still on board for doing a good chunk of the fundraising, but I don't do websites, design billboards, etc, so if it's just me, it's not going to happen.  I never rough ridin' dreamed goEMAW would go this soft.  I'm not sure how in the hell you can grow so complacent in 2 days that you are going to tolerate Currie running the show and shoving hires like this right up our ass with that rough ridin' smirk on his face the whole time.  Candyasses.  oscar rough ridin' Weber....eff.  Unbelievable.  You fuckers bitched about Franks recruiting and whatnot (and I did too) for the last 2 or 3 years, and now you're willing to accept this?  Currie has burnt your pride to ashes before his bitch Weber has even gotten started burning down the program.  Unreal.  eff.

I'm fine with a billboard. I'll donate for one because I absolutely do not want Currie touching football and we need to get that message out there. But I'm not optimistic it will work. If 'tuck sentiment has turned this quickly then they'll immediately unite with the media against us whenever we pull it off. They'll dismiss us as the fringe "insane" group that was only able to get 20 people to the Gottlieb rally.

If we want any chance of a billboard working, we'd have to make something like a bad picture of Currie and a message below or beside the picture that says:

Do you want THIS man replacing LHC Bill Snyder?
FireCurrie.com

...or something like that. Get the 'tucks thinking about what Currie could do to football. That's our only shot at getting them to lsiten.

[Barry McCockner]

Excellent idea.  I would prefer a pic with that rough ridin' smirk on his face that makes everyone want to hit him, though.

[Cire]

I just can't wait until ku beats us by 30 in the ood and EJ flexes at the chairbacks after his 4th oop in a row to jeff withey.  That's probably the best case scenario to anger the tucks.

[CNS]

"Do you want your next coach to be found off the floor....um......uh.....trash can, only later to wish he never ended up at your desk?"

[Trim]

Well, eff you all right into a couple of decades of meh.  I'll be forced to watch the same bullshit as everyone else, but at least I'll be able to do it with a heart full of hatred for the regime.  My rage has not subsided, and I'm still on board for doing a good chunk of the fundraising, but I don't do websites, design billboards, etc, so if it's just me, it's not going to happen.  I never rough ridin' dreamed goEMAW would go this soft.  I'm not sure how in the hell you can grow so complacent in 2 days that you are going to tolerate Currie running the show and shoving hires like this right up our ass with that rough ridin' smirk on his face the whole time.  Candyasses.  oscar rough ridin' Weber....eff.  Unbelievable.  You fuckers bitched about Franks recruiting and whatnot (and I did too) for the last 2 or 3 years, and now you're willing to accept this?  Currie has burnt your pride to ashes before his bitch Weber has even gotten started burning down the program.  Unreal.  eff.

I'm fine with a billboard. I'll donate for one because I absolutely do not want Currie touching football and we need to get that message out there. But I'm not optimistic it will work. If 'tuck sentiment has turned this quickly then they'll immediately unite with the media against us whenever we pull it off. They'll dismiss us as the fringe "insane" group that was only able to get 20 people to the Gottlieb rally.

If we want any chance of a billboard working, we'd have to make something like a bad picture of Currie and a message below or beside the picture that says:

Do you want THIS man replacing LHC Bill Snyder?
FireCurrie.com

...or something like that. Get the 'tucks thinking about what Currie could do to football. That's our only shot at getting them to lsiten.

No, you want that picture and comment on the website, with a billboard in giant black and white directing people to the website. 

You then have the flexibility to constantly update the message without having to pay to repaint or rewallpaper a billboard (I have no idea how a billboard actually comes to be).

And you make your site name something more general about Currie being a bad guy at K-State, so it's not a polarizing thing like "Fire Him".  Informational, not dictating.

Barry, don't direct this to "goEMAW."  I'm a mod here and I'm all for this project.  Others aren't.  This will be independent of goEMAW, which unfortunately, for credibility among general 'tards, will be good for the movement.

[Fuktard]

Well, eff you all right into a couple of decades of meh.  I'll be forced to watch the same bullshit as everyone else, but at least I'll be able to do it with a heart full of hatred for the regime.  My rage has not subsided, and I'm still on board for doing a good chunk of the fundraising, but I don't do websites, design billboards, etc, so if it's just me, it's not going to happen.  I never rough ridin' dreamed goEMAW would go this soft.  I'm not sure how in the hell you can grow so complacent in 2 days that you are going to tolerate Currie running the show and shoving hires like this right up our ass with that rough ridin' smirk on his face the whole time.  Candyasses.  oscar rough ridin' Weber....eff.  Unbelievable.  You fuckers bitched about Franks recruiting and whatnot (and I did too) for the last 2 or 3 years, and now you're willing to accept this?  Currie has burnt your pride to ashes before his bitch Weber has even gotten started burning down the program.  Unreal.  eff.

I actually agree with most of this....and I'm by far one of the biggest "glass half full" posters on this board.  (I refuse to call myself a tuck because I don't own jean shorts, collared shirts, a pair of slacks or a belt)

[Rams]

Rams, it's not about Weber's 2012-13 record or even Weber at all.

I realize that, but eventually (when Weber starts SLTHing) it will be.  And when that time comes, you'll have wasted all of your credibility on The War of April 2012 and everyone will laugh at the next War...a war we may actually be able to win...IF we had any credibility left.  This is a losing battle right now.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie at this point after the financial success he's had.  It's just not going to happen.  But when it turns out that he hired a shitty basketball coach, and there's evidence AT K-STATE to back that up, you may have a fighting chance and may be able to sway some opinions that matter.  You're better off fundraising and planting seeds now so when Currie has a high profile failure (hiring a bball coach with a shitty record at KSU) you have a war chest and plenty of troops to wage the battle.

You're a smart guy, Trim.  You have to know what I'm talking about when I say you're wasting valuable credibility and resources on a fight you simply have no chance of winning right now. 

[Barry McCockner]

In case I haven't been crystal clear on this already, other than seeing some invoices from time to time showing $350/mo for billboard rent from Thomas Sign, I don't know a damn thing about making a billboard or a website.  Nothing.  I can get whoever does take charge of the project the money to keep it up for quite awhile, but I'm not the lead (although I am beginning to feel like the last remaining proponent).

[Ira Hayes]

I don't think there is a need for a billboard, but we didn't lose.  The first purpose of a billboard is to get noticed by the right people.  It's glaringly obvious that the things said here have been noticed and acknowledged by the right people.

Beyond that, the second purpose is public humiliation.  We're just not to that point yet.  Until oscar Weber falls on his face, a billboard is a waste of money that could be better spent on just keeping this place going. 

[Barry McCockner]

Rams, it's not about Weber's 2012-13 record or even Weber at all.

I realize that, but eventually (when Weber starts SLTHing) it will be.  And when that time comes, you'll have wasted all of your credibility on The War of April 2012 and everyone will laugh at the next War...a war we may actually be able to win...IF we had any credibility left.  This is a losing battle right now.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie at this point after the financial success he's had.  It's just not going to happen.  But when it turns out that he hired a shitty basketball coach, and there's evidence AT K-STATE to back that up, you may have a fighting chance and may be able to sway some opinions that matter.  You're better off fundraising and planting seeds now so when Currie has a high profile failure (hiring a bball coach with a shitty record at KSU) you have a war chest and plenty of troops to wage the battle.

You're a smart guy, Trim.  You have to know what I'm talking about when I say you're wasting valuable credibility and resources on a fight you simply have no chance of winning right now.

I don't totally disagree with you, I just have a different strategy in mind.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie, probably not ever unless things get absolutely horrid in multiple revenue sports.  However, we all know that Currie is looking to leave K-State in his rearview sometime, so the more uncomfortable we can make Currie (whether that means having people at church ask him about that horrible billboard in town, or he finds it harder to do the fundraising aspect of his job because we have had an impact there, even incrementally) the sooner that will happen.

[bruce]

Suck it, bitches.  Currie has gotten everyone to comply with his wishes and convinced most people Frank is a rapist bastard.  He's untouchable for 2+ years.  This dude and his bros are goooood.   

[gato montes]

I actually agree with most of this....and I'm by far one of the biggest "glass half full" posters on this board.  (I refuse to call myself a tuck because I don't own jean shorts, collared shirts, a pair of slacks or a belt)

So you're one of the tucks that tucks his t-shirt into your wrangler jeans without a belt on. 

[Rams]

Rams, it's not about Weber's 2012-13 record or even Weber at all.

I realize that, but eventually (when Weber starts SLTHing) it will be.  And when that time comes, you'll have wasted all of your credibility on The War of April 2012 and everyone will laugh at the next War...a war we may actually be able to win...IF we had any credibility left.  This is a losing battle right now.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie at this point after the financial success he's had.  It's just not going to happen.  But when it turns out that he hired a shitty basketball coach, and there's evidence AT K-STATE to back that up, you may have a fighting chance and may be able to sway some opinions that matter.  You're better off fundraising and planting seeds now so when Currie has a high profile failure (hiring a bball coach with a shitty record at KSU) you have a war chest and plenty of troops to wage the battle.

You're a smart guy, Trim.  You have to know what I'm talking about when I say you're wasting valuable credibility and resources on a fight you simply have no chance of winning right now.

I don't totally disagree with you, I just have a different strategy in mind.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie, probably not ever unless things get absolutely horrid in multiple revenue sports.  However, we all know that Currie is looking to leave K-State in his rearview sometime, so the more uncomfortable we can make Currie (whether that means having people at church ask him about that horrible billboard in town, or he finds it harder to do the fundraising aspect of his job because we have had an impact there, even incrementally) the sooner that will happen.

I suppose that's a more legitimate mission, but it's still a losing proposition.  This is Currie's career and livelihood we're talking about.  He has a career path in mind and a few billboards and a website aren't going to knock him off that course.  If anything, it may make him more unattractive to other schools and result in it actually taking longer for him to move on. 

[Barry McCockner]

Rams, it's not about Weber's 2012-13 record or even Weber at all.

I realize that, but eventually (when Weber starts SLTHing) it will be.  And when that time comes, you'll have wasted all of your credibility on The War of April 2012 and everyone will laugh at the next War...a war we may actually be able to win...IF we had any credibility left.  This is a losing battle right now.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie at this point after the financial success he's had.  It's just not going to happen.  But when it turns out that he hired a shitty basketball coach, and there's evidence AT K-STATE to back that up, you may have a fighting chance and may be able to sway some opinions that matter.  You're better off fundraising and planting seeds now so when Currie has a high profile failure (hiring a bball coach with a shitty record at KSU) you have a war chest and plenty of troops to wage the battle.

You're a smart guy, Trim.  You have to know what I'm talking about when I say you're wasting valuable credibility and resources on a fight you simply have no chance of winning right now.

I don't totally disagree with you, I just have a different strategy in mind.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie, probably not ever unless things get absolutely horrid in multiple revenue sports.  However, we all know that Currie is looking to leave K-State in his rearview sometime, so the more uncomfortable we can make Currie (whether that means having people at church ask him about that horrible billboard in town, or he finds it harder to do the fundraising aspect of his job because we have had an impact there, even incrementally) the sooner that will happen.

I suppose that's a more legitimate mission, but it's still a losing proposition.  This is Currie's career and livelihood we're talking about.  He has a career path in mind and a few billboards and a website aren't going to knock him off that course.  If anything, it may make him more unattractive to other schools and result in it actually taking longer for him to move on. 

We're thinking along the same lines, and I have calculated that risk.  Furthermore, I have calculated that CURRIE has calculated that risk, and maybe he will GTFOOH before his reputation takes that unrecoverable hit.  I realize that it is a risk, and probably not the safe route, but who the eff am I, John Currie?

[Rams]

Rams, it's not about Weber's 2012-13 record or even Weber at all.

I realize that, but eventually (when Weber starts SLTHing) it will be.  And when that time comes, you'll have wasted all of your credibility on The War of April 2012 and everyone will laugh at the next War...a war we may actually be able to win...IF we had any credibility left.  This is a losing battle right now.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie at this point after the financial success he's had.  It's just not going to happen.  But when it turns out that he hired a shitty basketball coach, and there's evidence AT K-STATE to back that up, you may have a fighting chance and may be able to sway some opinions that matter.  You're better off fundraising and planting seeds now so when Currie has a high profile failure (hiring a bball coach with a shitty record at KSU) you have a war chest and plenty of troops to wage the battle.

You're a smart guy, Trim.  You have to know what I'm talking about when I say you're wasting valuable credibility and resources on a fight you simply have no chance of winning right now.

I don't totally disagree with you, I just have a different strategy in mind.  Schultzy isn't going to fire Currie, probably not ever unless things get absolutely horrid in multiple revenue sports.  However, we all know that Currie is looking to leave K-State in his rearview sometime, so the more uncomfortable we can make Currie (whether that means having people at church ask him about that horrible billboard in town, or he finds it harder to do the fundraising aspect of his job because we have had an impact there, even incrementally) the sooner that will happen.

I suppose that's a more legitimate mission, but it's still a losing proposition.  This is Currie's career and livelihood we're talking about.  He has a career path in mind and a few billboards and a website aren't going to knock him off that course.  If anything, it may make him more unattractive to other schools and result in it actually taking longer for him to move on. 

We're thinking along the same lines, and I have calculated that risk.  Furthermore, I have calculated that CURRIE has calculated that risk, and maybe he will GTFOOH before his reputation takes that unrecoverable hit.  I realize that it is a risk, and probably not the safe route, but who the eff am I, John Currie?

Welp. God speed then.

[Trim]

Touched on a little bit this afternoon since I was here, but yes, I understand that none of these actions (sans BSAC and the crew KORA'ing some crap up and exposing a previously undisclosed bad act of Currie's) are going to get him fired, and also aren't likely to change people's minds right now.

I want him to feel as bad as we have for the past 1-2 weeks.  Whatever else it may accomplish, a billboard/website, and the attention it draws to him, will almost certainly do that.

[sys]

Currie is very good at what he does and I give him a world of credit for it...  The guy really is good, folks.

maybe it looks easier than it is, but i don't really think he's that good.  i'm pretty sure i could get our fanbase to carry out a small genocide if anyone would ever get around to offering me the a.d'ship.

[SkinnyBenny]

I still think we go billboard now, directing to a website.  At the very least, make him feel bad. Oh, and you wanna know what's free?  Sidewalk chalking the crap outta campus.

[star seed 7]

Oh, and you wanna know what's free?  Sidewalk chalking the crap outta campus.

very effective at shaming rapist.