Author Topic: I am just so terribly sad for EMAW hoops. Heartbroken. (Read 4386 times)

Pete · « **on:** March 31, 2012, 07:38:12 PM »

I have cherished the resurgence of EMAW hoops. It's been indescribable for me how much I have loved it.

I have no way to completely describe how much I am saddened by this hire.

To hire someone who has proven that he's hapless at college basketball's lifeblood, recruiting, is beyond my understanding. If you can't recruit to Illinois, how can recruit to Kansas State?

The logic that I see here is that John Currie has accepted meritocracy, or worse. He's got football in the bag (for the moment) and merely looking to bring in someone who won't finish dead last in the Big 12....just be another Wooldridge.

We deserve better. Take a risk. Risk to achieve excellence. Risk it.

CNS · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:40:13 PM »

Well said. I had this exact conversation with my EMAW wife earlier today,

kougar24 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:40:43 PM »

You said it brother.

Whoever said "It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all" was probably John Currie.

Pete · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:42:08 PM »

It is so heartbreaking to have leadership who thinks so poorly of us.

CNS · « **Reply #4 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:43:39 PM »

Yeah, it's very sad now, but I can't imagine how bad it will be in 5yrs when we are completely irrelevant and I look back to how good we were. I can't imagine.

Seriously shaken.

Basketball is very important to me. Even in the 90's I would tell my roomates that I would gladly trade the fb team for an awesome BB team. We had a very good one, and now it's gone.

I feel cheated, but by someone I felt close to.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #5 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:43:54 PM »

here's the problem.....all of you that are on campus or live nearby can NOT buy tickets and go to games next season. If you do, then none of this hurt and anger matters.

time to talk the talk and walk the walk, fellas.

kougar24 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:45:38 PM »

Do you think Schulz knew about Weber when he was jovially shooting down all the rumors of other coaches via Twitter?

What a dick.

CNS · « **Reply #7 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:48:07 PM »

Quote from: kougar24 on March 31, 2012, 07:45:38 PM

Do you think Schulz knew about Weber when he was jovially shooting down all the rumors of other coaches via Twitter?

What a dick.

Honestly Schulz strikes me as a guy who doesn't even know the rules to the game. I bet trying to talk sports with him is awkward for him.

BigCat · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:50:26 PM »

Pete,

I agree and think it's fair to suggest that we will be committed to mediocrity until roughly everyone besides 90% of goEMAW'rs take a dirt nap. This could take the better part of the rest of this century. It hurts to say that the good, honest, hard-working and shy/humble nature of the majority of our fan base is what will continue, ultimately, to do us in.

Frank brought us a successful cable and network television reality show, filled with likeable/loveable characters and constant drama. Our administration and big donors decided that kind of exposure wasn't for them. Only when the new generation of EMAW with deep pockets and a firm grip on how the world works outside of the Midwest is in control, can we reasonably expect to compete.

Tell me if this is wrong... I just think PowerTuck Nation is too oppressive to overcome right now.

Pete · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:50:55 PM »

Quote from: CNS Casey on March 31, 2012, 07:48:07 PM

Quote from: kougar24 on March 31, 2012, 07:45:38 PM
Do you think Schulz knew about Weber when he was jovially shooting down all the rumors of other coaches via Twitter?

What a dick.

Honestly Schulz strikes me as a guy who doesn't even know the rules to the game. I bet trying to talk sports with him is awkward for him.

Yes, I believe that Shulz actually thinks this is a good hire. I really do not believe that he understands how college basketball works...he just sees Weber's success with Bill Self's recruits, and doesn't put two and two together.

SoCal Illini · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:53:31 PM »

Currie reminds me of our ex-AD, Ron Guenther. He got burned by a couple of coaches that left so now he wants the "safe" hire. The guy who will never leave (no matter how much you want him too). I understand the meltdowns but a lot of your success or failure next year will be in how much of your current team stays and how much they buy in to Weber's system... such as it is. You guys have one heck of a point guard, something Weber could never recruit at Illinois and that's key to his motionless offense.

Sorry guys, I'm trying to find the silver lining for you, I really am.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:54:16 PM »

john currie took a program that went to elite eights, hosted college gameday, had their coach on the set of cbs during the tournament, and went to the tourney 4/5 years and killed it. killed it in basically a week. we are now irrelevant.

kougar24 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:54:47 PM »

Quote from: SoCal Illini on March 31, 2012, 07:53:31 PM

Currie reminds me of our ex-AD, Ron Guenther. He got burned by a couple of coaches that left so now he wants the "safe" hire. The guy who will never leave (no matter how much you want him too). I understand the meltdowns but a lot of your success or failure next year will be in how much of your current team stays and how much they buy in to Weber's system... such as it is. You guys have one heck of a point guard, something Weber could never recruit at Illinois and that's key to his motionless offense.

Sorry guys, I'm trying to find the silver lining for you, I really am.

I assume you're referring to Angel, in which case I must inform you there is a 0% chance he stays.

CNS · « **Reply #13 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:55:18 PM »

Success is so fragile. I feel like I took us for granted.

0.42 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 31, 2012, 07:58:55 PM »

KK and I just had a good convo about this. We were 20 years behind when Huggy got here. Huggs and Frank erased a lot of that deficit. And with one week, all of that was undone. We're right back to where we were in 2007 when we had some solid players but an uncertain future. The problem is, in 2007 our ship was adrift and trying not to hit icebergs. Now, we've already hit a couple and are taking on water. It's just awful.

Quote from: CNS Casey on March 31, 2012, 07:55:18 PM

Success is so fragile. I feel like I took us for granted.

I certainly did. This time last year I thought that we were on as solid footing as we had been in a while in basketball.

imgoing2vomit · « **Reply #15 on:** March 31, 2012, 08:14:12 PM »

I am sick, sad, devastated, full of despair - words can not describe the anguish I am feeling. What scares the hell out of me is that I'm not sure any of us can fully comprehend the magnitude of negative ripples this hire is going to have on our university for a very, very long time.

One thing is painfully clear - the egotistical, slimy excuse for a human, John Currie, is not a KStater, will never be a KStater and does not care one eff about our university or the true KSU fans. The longer he remains as AD, the more pain we will have to endure, and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

I think I'm going to

again.

The Whale · « **Reply #16 on:** March 31, 2012, 09:19:02 PM »

oscar Weber is now the face and the voice of the program.

crap.

Even if we win next year, that's not something you can be proud of.

Good night ESPN, good night CBS, good night top 10 road wins.

Time to retire this guy ---->

, he won't be needed anytime soon.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #17 on:** March 31, 2012, 09:29:11 PM »

Quote from: BigCat on March 31, 2012, 07:50:26 PM

Pete,

I agree and think it's fair to suggest that we will be committed to mediocrity until roughly everyone besides 90% of goEMAW'rs take a dirt nap. This could take the better part of the rest of this century. It hurts to say that the good, honest, hard-working and shy/humble nature of the majority of our fan base is what will continue, ultimately, to do us in.

Frank brought us a successful cable and network television reality show, filled with likeable/loveable characters and constant drama. Our administration and big donors decided that kind of exposure wasn't for them. Only when the new generation of EMAW with deep pockets and a firm grip on how the world works outside of the Midwest is in control, can we reasonably expect to compete.

Tell me if this is wrong... I just think PowerTuck Nation is too oppressive to overcome right now.

The problem is we lose young EMAWS to tucks every day. Just saw a post my a frat bro of mine (on gopo) who is now a wealthy donor in Manhattan and he is a full on tuck. We are not gaining ranks like we should be.

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 31, 2012, 09:39:16 PM »

Pete,

I know man. I bought in so hard. I loved it so much. The thing that hurts the most is that the Pres/AD don't care about us. The whole thing reeks of "Screw it, let's hire oscar Weber." No risk taking, no shooting for greatness.

I just feel crushed

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #19 on:** March 31, 2012, 09:42:44 PM »

Quote from: CartierFor3 on March 31, 2012, 09:39:16 PM

Pete,

I know man. I bought in so hard. I loved it so much. The thing that hurts the most is that the Pres/AD don't care about us. The whole thing reeks of "Screw it, let's hire oscar Weber." No risk taking, no shooting for greatness.

I just feel crushed

Don't give
Don't go

BigCat · « **Reply #20 on:** March 31, 2012, 10:50:52 PM »

Curious what others communicated to Currie. Looking forward to crafting one to Breadsticks.

Quote

Mr. Currie,

With all due respect, you have made a terrible decision to run Frank Martin out of Manhattan, and to compound the stupidity by gathering oscar Weber as the head coach of Kansas State University men's basketball.

Having reached a station where I planned on donating a significant amount of money to the athletic department, I now intend to use those funds to ensure your name will be mocked wherever you go.

Myself and a number of other like-minded alumni intend to make of you a leper; one completely disregarded for hire by any administration with half of a brain.

Your unwillingness to work with Frank Martin was obtrusive. Your hiring of oscar Weber is unconscionable. If I need to list the reasons why these statements are facts, you must understand that you are delusional and should seek professional help.

As someone who has no respect for our University, you cannot be expected to empathize with the vitriol being expressed to you. What you can expect is to go through the worst professional hell imaginable after those wise alumni let loose the dogs of war. I feel sorry for your wife and children as their lives will forever be negatively altered as a result of your disdain for Kansas State University.

Thank you for your time and I look forward to marking your reply as junk,

[redacted]

Testy Westy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 31, 2012, 11:02:23 PM »

This song couldn't be more appropriate to describe this week.

slimz · « **Reply #22 on:** March 31, 2012, 11:11:56 PM »

Trivia Time!

See if you can identify these 2 coaches by the results of their last season in a BCS conference:

Coach A) 2 games over .500 overall, 6 conference wins, finished 9th in conference, beat conference champ during regular season.

Coach B) 2 games over .500 overall, 6 conference wins, finished 9th in conference, beat conference champ during regular season.

KSUTOMMY · « **Reply #23 on:** March 31, 2012, 11:21:40 PM »

Quote from: Pete on March 31, 2012, 07:38:12 PM

I have cherished the resurgence of EMAW hoops. It's been indescribable for me how much I have loved it.

I have no way to completely describe how much I am saddened by this hire.

To hire someone who has proven that he's hapless at college basketball's lifeblood, recruiting, is beyond my understanding. If you can't recruit to Illinois, how can recruit to Kansas State?

The logic that I see here is that John Currie has accepted meritocracy, or worse. He's got football in the bag (for the moment) and merely looking to bring in someone who won't finish dead last in the Big 12....just be another Wooldridge.

We deserve better. Take a risk. Risk to achieve excellence. Risk it.

Spot-on. I have grown to love KSU hoops and it was not only a GREAT product, BUT everyone loved us and we were all in love with ourselves. Now i want to eat some crystal drain-o and chase it with a gallon of bleach. Thanks JC for rough ridin' us in the ass.

USCbballIsBack · « **Reply #24 on:** March 31, 2012, 11:22:55 PM »

Quote from: kougar24 on March 31, 2012, 07:54:47 PM

Quote from: SoCal Illini on March 31, 2012, 07:53:31 PM
Currie reminds me of our ex-AD, Ron Guenther. He got burned by a couple of coaches that left so now he wants the "safe" hire. The guy who will never leave (no matter how much you want him too). I understand the meltdowns but a lot of your success or failure next year will be in how much of your current team stays and how much they buy in to Weber's system... such as it is. You guys have one heck of a point guard, something Weber could never recruit at Illinois and that's key to his motionless offense.

Sorry guys, I'm trying to find the silver lining for you, I really am.

I assume you're referring to Angel, in which case I must inform you there is a 0% chance he stays.

And about a 90% chance he becomes a Gamecock.