Author Topic: Garten brings it again... (Read 2770 times)

kso_FAN · « **on:** March 12, 2010, 08:06:22 AM »

A look at JamSam's great game and a great breakdown of Lou vs Judge.

http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/1992

Cire · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2010, 08:13:17 AM »

to summarize for those too lazy to read

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BMWJhawk is a fracking Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

badnewsjimmy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2010, 08:29:04 AM »

... and in other news. Night is dark and day is bright!

steve dave · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2010, 08:35:55 AM »

Really like Garten

Cire · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:00:42 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on March 12, 2010, 08:35:55 AM

Really like Garten

Me too, definately not as lazy as most writers seem to be.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:03:42 AM »

Quote from: Cire on March 12, 2010, 09:00:42 AM

Quote from: steve dave on March 12, 2010, 08:35:55 AM
Really like Garten

Me too, definately not as lazy as most writers seem to be.

The key is he goes beyond the boxscore.

Of course I think most writers just stick with the regular stats b/c that's what most fans follow and understand. Going beyond that to efficiency stats, etc. (which give you a much better look at production) goes way beyond what most fans understand about the game, especially the older crowd.

For example there was a long thread on GPC the other day about how "bad" our defense is b/c we gave up so many points per game, but that person had no concept of possessions and points per possession.

Cire · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:09:58 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 12, 2010, 09:03:42 AM

Quote from: Cire on March 12, 2010, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: steve dave on March 12, 2010, 08:35:55 AM
Really like Garten

Me too, definately not as lazy as most writers seem to be.

The key is he goes beyond the boxscore.

Of course I think most writers just stick with the regular stats b/c that's what most fans follow and understand. Going beyond that to efficiency stats, etc. (which give you a much better look at production) goes way beyond what most fans understand about the game, especially the older crowd.

For example there was a long thread on GPC the other day about how "bad" our defense is b/c we gave up so many points per game, but that person had no concept of possessions and points per possession.

They are lazy.

catzacker · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:29:39 AM »

I haven't figured out what type of player Wally will most closely resemble. Who will we end up comparing him to?

Cire · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:32:05 AM »

More athletic Justin Williams.

chum1 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:37:32 AM »

It should be a rule that you can't compare current players to ones from the B2B decades of crap (DOS). If Judge's game turns out to be anything like Kelly's, we should all be ecstatic.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:40:43 AM »

Pervis Pasco. Not kidding.

catzacker · « **Reply #11 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:46:28 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 12, 2010, 09:40:43 AM

Pervis Pasco. Not kidding.

Tony Kitt (should this be in italics?)

kso_FAN · « **Reply #12 on:** March 12, 2010, 09:50:48 AM »

Quote from: catzacker on March 12, 2010, 09:46:28 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 12, 2010, 09:40:43 AM
Pervis Pasco. Not kidding.

Tony Kitt (should this be in italics?)

Pervis was almost exactly same size and a similar athlete, though probably not quite as exposive. Seriously, get past the travel, and he was pretty good, I just think he had a mentality similar to Dom sometimes. Over 2 seasons he averaged 11-8 and was on pretty average teams.

chum1 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:02:30 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 12, 2010, 09:50:48 AM

Pervis was almost exactly same size and a similar athlete, though probably not quite as exposive.

You are absolutely out of your mind. Pasco could never double clutch reverse scoop the ball in. Judge has some NBA level skills. Maybe you should watch video of Judge dunking. I think you might be able to find some on youtube. Pasco could do none of that.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #14 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:05:39 AM »

Quote from: chum1 on March 12, 2010, 10:02:30 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 12, 2010, 09:50:48 AM
Pervis was almost exactly same size and a similar athlete, though probably not quite as exposive.

You are absolutely out of your mind. Pasco could never double clutch reverse scoop the ball in. Judge has some NBA level skills. Maybe you should watch video of Judge dunking. I think you might be able to find some on youtube. Pasco could do none of that.

Pasco wasn't as explosive, but he was a very good athlete. I agree he couldn't do the things that Judge does.

steve dave · « **Reply #15 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:10:02 AM »

A mid 80s Lenny Dykstra with a slightly better vertical

catzacker · « **Reply #16 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:10:53 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on March 12, 2010, 10:10:02 AM

A mid 80s Lenny Dykstra with a slightly better vertical

to be honest, this was what I was thinking as well.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #17 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:11:29 AM »

a Black Wes Welker?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #18 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:12:57 AM »

To be fair, I don't think Wally will ever do this:

Cire · « **Reply #19 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:50:14 AM »

awesome.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #20 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:51:52 AM »

Pasco just went up a couple notches in my book.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 12, 2010, 10:55:23 AM »

My hope is he can be a poor man's Darrell Arthur (to compare him to someone we are familiar with).

They have similar bodies and they both are better at facing up than posting up. Arthur is a much better shooter, hence the poor man qualifier.

Also, Wallace has been asked to be more of 5 than Arthur was

canadian_breeze · « **Reply #22 on:** March 12, 2010, 11:36:36 AM »

Quote from: Skipper44 on March 12, 2010, 10:55:23 AM

My hope is he can be a poor man's Darrell Arthur (to compare him to someone we are familiar with).

They have similar bodies and they both are better at facing up than posting up. Arthur is a much better shooter, hence the poor man qualifier.

Also, Wallace has been asked to be more of 5 than Arthur was

kinda see him as a slimmer, more handsome/ athletic, luis colon

kso_FAN · « **Reply #23 on:** March 12, 2010, 12:01:02 PM »

Since we're at it with the Wally comparos, how about McGruder?

Someone on GPC tried to say James Anderson, which IMO is a bit much. But I'd say perhaps Muonelo could be a good comparo, though he is a bit bigger than McGrudes.

Cire · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2010, 12:03:59 PM »

If he can reach muonelo status, it would be great.

would love muonelo on our team