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just got back from swimming pool (cico). there was a highschool chick there. kind of small tits but nice legs/ass. i walked over to her and was like "hey what are you doing here?". she looked at me funny then walked away. i obviously followed her. again i was like "hey stop. what are you doing here. stop." she didn't stop so i kept following her. she went over to the high dive so i just followed her right up. she jumped. i jumped. she swam to the side of the pool super quick and in a weird way like a rough ridin' shark was chasing her or something. so weird. anyway i just swam after her. again with the ass. anyway, when i got out of the pool her boyfriend or some guy was there and he was like "wft bro and pushed me". luckily my pool bag was like five feet away and i had my gun in it. i grabbed the gun and shot and killed him. kids these days i swear.
what if in the second scenario i add that you actively and for no reason chased the highschooler through your neighborhood and it was only when you caught up with him that he started punching you? change or heart or still equally as scary as being a kid in high school with an old dude in a truck chasing you at night?
they are both scary, because the other party is a stranger. you have no idea what he's thinking or what weapons he possesses.the whole line of thinking where people try to minimize the fight to some sort of high school or pickup game fistfight is stupid. for the above reason.
What about minimizing the fight because the defendant caused it?
Quote from: MakeItRain on July 13, 2013, 04:50:33 PMWhat about minimizing the fight because the defendant caused it?i think the defendant says he didn't. if you assume he did, then you can also assume that the fight was less scary for him.
Quote from: sys on July 13, 2013, 04:52:28 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on July 13, 2013, 04:50:33 PMWhat about minimizing the fight because the defendant caused it?i think the defendant says he didn't. if you assume he did, then you can also assume that the fight was less scary for him.So we're going to ignore what we know about the pursuit as fact because of what the defendant said he did or didn't do?
Quote from: MakeItRain on July 13, 2013, 05:00:29 PMQuote from: sys on July 13, 2013, 04:52:28 PMQuote from: MakeItRain on July 13, 2013, 04:50:33 PMWhat about minimizing the fight because the defendant caused it?i think the defendant says he didn't. if you assume he did, then you can also assume that the fight was less scary for him.So we're going to ignore what we know about the pursuit as fact because of what the defendant said he did or didn't do?what do we know about the pursuit other than what zimmerman claims?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, K-State fans could have beheaded the entire KU team at midcourt, and K-State fans would be celebrating it this morning. They are the ISIS of Big 12 fanbases.
Jury wants clarification on manslaughter charge. I think this means murder is pretty much off the table. As for manslaughter, they're either leaning that way, or there's a holdout who wants manslaughter as a compromise. Either way, not good for GZ.
The guy should absolutely get manslaughter
Quote from: p1k3 on July 13, 2013, 05:24:17 PMThe guy should absolutely get manslaughterWhat the jury doesn't know is that in FL, the sentencing for manslaughter with a gun is basically the same as for second degree murder. Talking 20 to 30 years. That's why a compromise verdict would be especially outrageous in this case.
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 13, 2013, 05:14:41 PMJury wants clarification on manslaughter charge. I think this means murder is pretty much off the table. As for manslaughter, they're either leaning that way, or there's a holdout who wants manslaughter as a compromise. Either way, not good for GZ.Simply means that Murder 2 is off the table, now they will decide on Manslaughter. It's positive for the defense.
"Son. This is why we are wildcats. Hard work, pride, the heart of this country. And if that's not enough for you, you can just move to California with your punk friends."
Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 13, 2013, 05:29:23 PMQuote from: p1k3 on July 13, 2013, 05:24:17 PMThe guy should absolutely get manslaughterWhat the jury doesn't know is that in FL, the sentencing for manslaughter with a gun is basically the same as for second degree murder. Talking 20 to 30 years. That's why a compromise verdict would be especially outrageous in this case.B) it's not their job to decide how long he should be in jail. their only job is to decide whether he's guilty of a crime based on the definition set forth in the statute.
and ksuwildcats makes a violent u-turn switching his what the law states only talking point to a what it actually means to this poor sap and why it's not fair talking point.
Who won you guys?