George Zimmerman is a piece of crap

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

wait, they aren't also charging him with manslaughter or some lesser crime than murder?  isn't that stupid?

When both sides rest, the court determines - with argument from both sides - which lesser offenses the jury gets as options to select aside from what he's charged with or not guilty.

Didn't realize this, good.

[star seed 7]

The arguments for manslaughter and murder2 are the same except for the deranged mind part of murder 2, something like that. I've read that in fl manslaughter is always included as an alternative in second degree murder cases because of that.   Do not know if it's true.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I've got no problem with GZ being on the neighborhood watch, and calling the police on TM given the rash of crime in the neighborhood. Again, this really comes down to people believing that GZ is a racist vigilante who (1) racially profiled TM, and (2) intentionally approached TM and instigated a fight. I see no convincing evidence of either.

And legally speaking, I agree he should walk based on lack of evidence but (FL) juries have done crazier things.

[MakeItRain]

I think they were forced into going for a murder charge by the over zealous media and race-baiters like Jackson-Sharpton-New Black Panthers-NBC. He's going to walk.

Can't help yourself, can you? Racist.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I think they were forced into going for a murder charge by the over zealous media and race-baiters like Jackson-Sharpton-New Black Panthers-NBC. He's going to walk.

Can't help yourself, can you? Racist.

sad.

[SkinnyBenny]

I've got no problem with GZ being on the neighborhood watch

Do you have a problem with him being armed? You know, what with his prior convictions and restraining orders and whatnot.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I've got no problem with GZ being on the neighborhood watch

Do you have a problem with him being armed? You know, what with his prior convictions and restraining orders and whatnot.

He had prior convictions? All I was aware of was this:

In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar.

In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.

So seven years prior, he shoved an officer during a bar dispute, it was minor enough that charges were waived, and he later had a mutual restraining order. Yeah, based on that, I've got no problem with him having a CCW and being armed.

[Rams]

wait, they aren't also charging him with manslaughter or some lesser crime than murder?  isn't that stupid?

When both sides rest, the court determines - with argument from both sides - which lesser offenses the jury gets as options to select aside from what he's charged with or not guilty.

and unfortunately a lot of prosecutors decide to charge the highest offense they can argue with a straight face and let the courts sort it out. stupid strategy imo.

[Trim]

wait, they aren't also charging him with manslaughter or some lesser crime than murder?  isn't that stupid?

When both sides rest, the court determines - with argument from both sides - which lesser offenses the jury gets as options to select aside from what he's charged with or not guilty.

and unfortunately a lot of prosecutors decide to charge the highest offense they can argue with a straight face and let the courts sort it out. stupid strategy imo.

Link?

[SkinnyBenny]

So seven years prior, he shoved an officer during a bar dispute, it was minor enough that charges were waived, and he later had a mutual restraining order.

also don't forget the one where he killed an unarmed kid.

[AbeFroman]

I think it's pretty hilarious how racist white people have rallied behind this hispanic man.

[steve dave]

I think it's pretty hilarious how racist white people have rallied behind this hispanic man.

the fact that a large percentage of their population are gun zealots may have something to do with it.

[Headinjun]

I think they were forced into going for a murder charge by the over zealous media and race-baiters like Jackson-Sharpton-New Black Panthers-NBC. He's going to walk.

Can't help yourself, can you? Racist.

I was just getting ready to say that you can always look for non biased opinions when somebody cites Jackson, Sharpton, and the New Black Panthers as part of the problem.

[michigancat]

In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar.

In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.

So seven years prior, he shoved an officer during a bar dispute, it was minor enough that charges were waived, and he later had a mutual restraining order. Yeah, based on that, I've got no problem with him having a CCW and being armed.

The trivialization of domestic violence is sad, but not surprising.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I think it's pretty hilarious how racist white people have rallied behind this hispanic man.

the fact that a large percentage of their population are gun zealots may have something to do with it.

i don't think any of them would be rallying around him if his name was manuel hernandez. george zimmerman however...

[420seriouscat69]

Hey!!! I lived in Texas, Colorado, & garden city. I also worked at on the boarder and Carlos o kellys. I'm tight with with our friends down south. 'Merica!

[steve dave]

I also worked at on the boarder and Carlos o kellys.

amazing

[KSUblumpkin]

Hey!!! I lived in Texas, Colorado, & garden city. I also worked at on the boarder and Carlos o kellys. I'm tight with with our friends down south. 'Merica!

Highlight of my morning.  Thanks buddy!

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I think it's pretty hilarious how racist white people have rallied behind this hispanic man.

the fact that a large percentage of their population are gun zealots may have something to do with it.

i don't think any of them would be rallying around him if his name was manuel hernandez. george zimmerman however...

If his name were hernandez, it would have been ignored by Sharpton and Jackson.

[michigancat]

I think it's pretty hilarious how racist white people have rallied behind this hispanic man.

the fact that a large percentage of their population are gun zealots may have something to do with it.

i don't think any of them would be rallying around him if his name was manuel hernandez. george zimmerman however...

If his name were hernandez, it would have been ignored by Sharpton and Jackson.

And the police would have arrested him. We've been through this already.

[Tobias]

I also worked at on the boarder and Carlos o kellys.

amazing

the true spelling and content combo-pack... this one's a keeper

[Rage Against the McKee]

I honestly haven't seen a single quote from Sharpton or Jackson about this trial. Are they pretty involved, or something?

[Kat Kid]

This Chinese medical examiner autopsy guy is a super weirdo.

[SkinnyBenny]

In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar.

In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counterfiled for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted.

So seven years prior, he shoved an officer during a bar dispute, it was minor enough that charges were waived, and he later had a mutual restraining order. Yeah, based on that, I've got no problem with him having a CCW and being armed.

The trivialization of domestic violence is sad, but not surprising.

Especially considering the way that gun George Zimmerman fans are vilifying Trayvon for having smoked marijuana once in a while.

[eastcat]

GZ has a dope ass attorney.