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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #175 on: March 10, 2012, 07:34:24 PM »
K-State's total athletic department made more than $11 million dollars more than Illinois' athletic department made in FY 2011 . . . Pepperjax, "That's not relevant".

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We're talking about college basketball programs, 'Pad.  Who cares what Illinois generates in football?  They have more alumni and more fan support than K-State.  It's a better job.  I seriously can't believe so many of you clowns would argue otherwise.

At this point, if it's better, it's not much better.


With the right coach, it's a top 10 job.

Jesus Christ.  It's NEVER been a top 10 program.  Also Duke is living proof of any program being able to be a top 10 program with the right coach.  Small private school in the shadow of a monster with strict admissions and a tiny gym.

Just so we're clear, Duke athletes have different admission standards than the general student body. 


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #176 on: March 10, 2012, 07:36:02 PM »
There are only 2-3 programs in the country who can pay their less than the top 10-20 programs and still be regarded as a top 10 job.  Illinois is not one of those.

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #177 on: March 10, 2012, 07:36:17 PM »
henson. lou henson. also, no. no self was not better in the couple of years he was there than henson was. gill, anderson, bardo? eff me. the guy averaged over twenty wins during a twenty year coaching period while at illinois. jesus christ and you can't even get his name right.

Dude it was auto corrected on my phone and I missed it, rough ridin' chill.  You don't think I know who Lou Henson is?  Get rough ridin' real man.  I have the program from his final four.  Speaking of which, after his final four he won 1 tournament game his last 7 years including missing the tournament altogether in that time frame.

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #178 on: March 10, 2012, 07:37:00 PM »
henson. lou henson. also, no. no self was not better in the couple of years he was there than henson was. gill, anderson, bardo? eff me. the guy averaged over twenty wins during a twenty year coaching period while at illinois. jesus christ and you can't even get his name right.

Dude it was auto corrected on my phone and I missed it, rough ridin' chill.  You don't think I know who Lou Henson is?  Get rough ridin' real man.  I have the program from his final four.  Speaking of which, after his final four he won 1 tournament game his last 7 years including missing the tournament altogether in that time frame.

Maybe Illinois is TOO close to Chicago to have success.


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #179 on: March 10, 2012, 07:37:36 PM »
Also is there any doubt now that the Illini In The Know sock belongs to beems?

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« Reply #180 on: March 10, 2012, 07:39:02 PM »
it is nice that Frank's HS background means he has few AD type contacts that know better concerning his mad man image

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #181 on: March 10, 2012, 07:40:56 PM »
K-State's total athletic department made more than $11 million dollars more than Illinois' athletic department made in FY 2011 . . . Pepperjax, "That's not relevant".

LOL



We're talking about college basketball programs, 'Pad.  Who cares what Illinois generates in football?  They have more alumni and more fan support than K-State.  It's a better job.  I seriously can't believe so many of you clowns would argue otherwise.

At this point, if it's better, it's not much better.


With the right coach, it's a top 10 job.

Jesus Christ.  It's NEVER been a top 10 program.  Also Duke is living proof of any program being able to be a top 10 program with the right coach.  Small private school in the shadow of a monster with strict admissions and a tiny gym.

Just so we're clear, Duke athletes have different admission standards than the general student body.

But still more stringent than most BCS schools right?  That took a while I had to make sure I didn't give Daris a reason to freak out about any auto corrections.

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #182 on: March 10, 2012, 07:42:24 PM »
K-State's total athletic department made more than $11 million dollars more than Illinois' athletic department made in FY 2011 . . . Pepperjax, "That's not relevant".

LOL


We're talking about college basketball programs, 'Pad.  Who cares what Illinois generates in football?  They have more alumni and more fan support than K-State.  It's a better job.  I seriously can't believe so many of you clowns would argue otherwise.

At this point, if it's better, it's not much better.


With the right coach, it's a top 10 job.

Um, that doesn't really make a lot of sense...

Sure it does.  It's a top 10 job, which will attract the right coach, making it a top 10 job.

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #183 on: March 10, 2012, 07:42:40 PM »
Also is there any doubt now that the Illini In The Know sock belongs to beems?

Yes.

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #184 on: March 10, 2012, 07:43:07 PM »
K-State's total athletic department made more than $11 million dollars more than Illinois' athletic department made in FY 2011 . . . Pepperjax, "That's not relevant".

LOL


We're talking about college basketball programs, 'Pad.  Who cares what Illinois generates in football?  They have more alumni and more fan support than K-State.  It's a better job.  I seriously can't believe so many of you clowns would argue otherwise.

At this point, if it's better, it's not much better.


With the right coach, it's a top 10 job.

Um, that doesn't really make a lot of sense...

Sure it does.  It's a top 10 job, which will attract the right coach, making it a top 10 job.

Now it all makes sense.  :dubious:

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #185 on: March 10, 2012, 07:45:40 PM »
K-State's total athletic department made more than $11 million dollars more than Illinois' athletic department made in FY 2011 . . . Pepperjax, "That's not relevant".

LOL



We're talking about college basketball programs, 'Pad.  Who cares what Illinois generates in football?  They have more alumni and more fan support than K-State.  It's a better job.  I seriously can't believe so many of you clowns would argue otherwise.

At this point, if it's better, it's not much better.


With the right coach, it's a top 10 job.

Jesus Christ.  It's NEVER been a top 10 program.  Also Duke is living proof of any program being able to be a top 10 program with the right coach.  Small private school in the shadow of a monster with strict admissions and a tiny gym.

Just so we're clear, Duke athletes have different admission standards than the general student body.

But still more stringent than most BCS schools right?  That took a while I had to make sure I didn't give Daris a reason to freak out about any auto corrections.

No. 


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #186 on: March 10, 2012, 07:47:05 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #187 on: March 10, 2012, 07:49:04 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #188 on: March 10, 2012, 07:50:47 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.

K-State athletics blew Illinois out of the water in both net and gross revenues.   


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #189 on: March 10, 2012, 07:51:52 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.

K-State athletics blew Illinois out of the water in both net and gross revenues.   



well there you go.  hard for me to believe it but I'll take your word.  but i think you're full of crap and it's not true.


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #190 on: March 10, 2012, 07:52:11 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.

Not if Illinois is unwilling to outspend their peers.

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #191 on: March 10, 2012, 07:56:07 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.

Not if Illinois is unwilling to outspend their peers.
I think they will be.  I guess we'll have to see. 

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« Reply #192 on: March 10, 2012, 07:56:16 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.

K-State athletics blew Illinois out of the water in both net and gross revenues.   



well there you go.  hard for me to believe it but I'll take your word.  but i think you're full of crap and it's not true.

FY 2011 Equity in Athletics Report to the DOE:

K-State:  Gross Revenues:  $68.8  Million   Net Revenue:  $23.5 Million

Illinois:  Gross Revenue:  $57.5 Million   Net Revenue:  $1.7 Million


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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #193 on: March 10, 2012, 07:56:49 PM »
Pffft....Currie has a lot more ammo than Illinos FWIW.....

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Re: Coaching update
« Reply #194 on: March 10, 2012, 07:57:30 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.

Not if Illinois is unwilling to outspend their peers.
Actually yes, ability to generate revenue is all that matters. 


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« Reply #195 on: March 10, 2012, 07:58:38 PM »
Only PepperJaxBeems would take my point about K-State being able to match anything Illinois could offer financially if it choose to do so and have a complete bi-polar meltdown about it.

The numbers are the numbers, K-State athletics is vastly more profitable than Illinois athletics.



Profitability doesn't mean anything.  The ability to generate revenue is what you should focus on.

K-State athletics blew Illinois out of the water in both net and gross revenues.   



well there you go.  hard for me to believe it but I'll take your word.  but i think you're full of crap and it's not true.

FY 2011 Equity in Athletics Report to the DOE:

K-State:  Gross Revenues:  $68.8  Million   Net Revenue:  $23.5 Million

Illinois:  Gross Revenue:  $57.5 Million   Net Revenue:  $1.7 Million



i was only kidding but thx for pulling those.  just goes to show that Illinois isn't afraid to get out the Amex Black.


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« Reply #196 on: March 10, 2012, 07:58:51 PM »
henson. lou henson. also, no. no self was not better in the couple of years he was there than henson was. gill, anderson, bardo? eff me. the guy averaged over twenty wins during a twenty year coaching period while at illinois. jesus christ and you can't even get his name right.

Dude it was auto corrected on my phone and I missed it, rough ridin' chill.  You don't think I know who Lou Henson is?  Get rough ridin' real man.  I have the program from his final four.  Speaking of which, after his final four he won 1 tournament game his last 7 years including missing the tournament altogether in that time frame.

how would i know what you know and what you don't? i'm not a mind reader and i certainly didn't program code on whatever auto corrected "henson" to "benson".

that aside, henson also averaged over twenty wins over twenty years at that school, meanwhile bill self inherited a lon kruger team full of future nbaers  and then promptly went to an elite 8, a sweet 16 and then the second round exit in the ncaa tournament. i would hardly call not making a final four and finishing worse every single year he was there "amazing". maybe your phone autocorrect "pretty good" to "amazing" though.  :dunno:

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« Reply #197 on: March 10, 2012, 08:00:36 PM »
K-State's total athletic department made more than $11 million dollars more than Illinois' athletic department made in FY 2011 . . . Pepperjax, "That's not relevant".

LOL



We're talking about college basketball programs, 'Pad.  Who cares what Illinois generates in football?  They have more alumni and more fan support than K-State.  It's a better job.  I seriously can't believe so many of you clowns would argue otherwise.

At this point, if it's better, it's not much better.


With the right coach, it's a top 10 job.

Jesus Christ.  It's NEVER been a top 10 program.  Also Duke is living proof of any program being able to be a top 10 program with the right coach.  Small private school in the shadow of a monster with strict admissions and a tiny gym.

Just so we're clear, Duke athletes have different admission standards than the general student body.

But still more stringent than most BCS schools right?  That took a while I had to make sure I didn't give Daris a reason to freak out about any auto corrections.

Don't worry about Daris.  He just freaked out because someone dumped kitty litter on his lawn for the second year IN A ROW!!  Its not about you...

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« Reply #198 on: March 10, 2012, 08:01:03 PM »
henson. lou henson. also, no. no self was not better in the couple of years he was there than henson was. gill, anderson, bardo? eff me. the guy averaged over twenty wins during a twenty year coaching period while at illinois. jesus christ and you can't even get his name right.

Dude it was auto corrected on my phone and I missed it, rough ridin' chill.  You don't think I know who Lou Henson is?  Get rough ridin' real man.  I have the program from his final four.  Speaking of which, after his final four he won 1 tournament game his last 7 years including missing the tournament altogether in that time frame.

how would i know what you know and what you don't? i'm not a mind reader and i certainly didn't program code on whatever auto corrected "henson" to "benson".

that aside, henson also averaged over twenty wins over twenty years at that school, meanwhile bill self inherited a lon kruger team full of future nbaers  and then promptly went to an elite 8, a sweet 16 and then the second round exit in the ncaa tournament. i would hardly call not making a final four and finishing worse every single year he was there "amazing". maybe your phone autocorrect "pretty good" to "amazing" though.  :dunno:
careful rick...how dare you question MIR when it comes to basketball?

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« Reply #199 on: March 10, 2012, 08:02:46 PM »
K-State's profitability is only going to go up with the new TV contracts. 

K-State athletics has also been green lighted to approach any and all potential donors, that was not the case 3 or 4 years ago.