Resume of teams (teams in the mix for 7-9 seeds) Updated 3-4-12

[SabiNation]

I just really don't want to be an 8/9. To me Syracuse and Kentucky are by far the best 1s and I don't want to be matched up with either in the 2nd round. Other than that I'm good with whatever.

Ya, I'm on this bandwagon. I feel like if we play well enough we can beat any 1, 2 or 3 seed out there except for these two.

[bigwillie20]

I just really don't want to be an 8/9. To me Syracuse and Kentucky are by far the best 1s and I don't want to be matched up with either in the 2nd round. Other than that I'm good with whatever.

Ya, I'm on this bandwagon. I feel like if we play well enough we can beat any 1, 2 or 3 seed out there except for these two.

 

[Powercat Posse]

Only way we slip to a 10 is if we lose to aTm and lose 1st game in KC.   Even then, we could still be a 9.

Lunardi's current 10 seeds dont have strong resumes =
Bama  8-6 conf, 2 top 50 wins (Wich St Purdue).  Plus 2nd leading scorer Mitchell wont play again (suspension)
Wash 13-3 conf record but ZERO top 50 wins.  7-5 in the non con with no top 100 wins
Cincy 10-6 in conf.   But weak RPI 77 and SOS 108.    5 top 50 wins, 3 bad losses
UConn  7-9 in conf.   Strong RPI 30  SOS 1.  But lost 8 of last 11 games

[kso_FAN]

It all depends on what the committee looks at, because they seem to emphasize different things in different years for seeding purposes. Here is a different comparision; I've been posting bubble comparos, but here is a current seeding comparo. BTW, this is not original to me, I just reformatted it a bit.

[kougar24]

It all depends on what the committee looks at, because they seem to emphasize different things in different years for seeding purposes. Here is a different comparision; I've been posting bubble comparos, but here is a current seeding comparo. BTW, this is not original to me, I just reformatted it a bit.

Let's hope "wins vs. top 25" is a big criterion this year.

[Powercat Posse]

Nice grid FAN.

No one in that 6-10 seed group can compare with us on big wins.   Only Purdue has more top 50 wins (SDSU/Cincy has 5 like us).
Our 4 wins over top 25 (3 of those top 15).    Purdue has 2 wins vs top 15. 

Another strong area for us is we are 8 wins away from home (8-5 record).   This is very good for a team in a conf as strong as Big 12
Also We had a solid non con.   2 quality wins and Non con rpi of 11.

Most teams have 1-2 bad losses, so right now our 2 are not hurting us that bad.   
Our 44 rpi is OK.  Not good not bad. 
8-8 conf record hurts us some. 

I heard the other day that they are not paying near as much attention to the Last 12. 

[Stevesie60]

Our 26-50 is awful considering our 1-25.

[mocat]

Our 26-50 is awful considering our 1-25.

Yes, this is not new for Frank however:

Career vs Kenpom top 20: 17-21 (0.447)

Career vs Kenpom top 50: 32-37 (0.464)

Career vs Kenpom top 75: 43-46 (0.483)

[michigancat]

Our 26-50 is awful considering our 1-25.

Yes, this is not new for Frank however:

Career vs Kenpom top 20: 17-21 (0.447)

Career vs Kenpom top 50: 32-37 (0.464)

Career vs Kenpom top 75: 43-46 (0.483)

^that crap cray

[Powercat Posse]

If our record was 3-1 vs 26-50............  we would not be talking about 7-9 seeds.   We would probably be a 5.

[CyberToothCat]

At this point we are safely in, no doubt about it. I think winning the last 2 and losing the first in KC would put us right on the 7/8 border line. It probably takes 3 more wins (with a win over ISU or BU) to get us safely out of the 8/9 slot.

I think we are in the "Work left to do category".  We've got all the quality wins we need, but I think we need to finish at or above 0.500 in the conference to be safely in.  That means we need to win one of our last two.  Despite being a road game, I think A&M is the easier of the two games left on our schedule.  OSU and Page just scare me, especially the way we've played at home.

Win tomorrow and we're safely in the tourney.  Lose tomorrow and we'll face a must-win situation on Saturday.

Usually by this point in the season, I have a pretty good idea of what to expect from K-State and other teams around the conference.  I have NO idea what to expect from K-State from game to game (or even from half to half or possession to possession).  I think A&M has a bunch of talent, but they've been hurt for much of the season.  I think Dash Harris and Khris Middleton are back now, so I think A&M is back to full strength (which was projected to be conf champs).  They've been offensively challenged, but they play really good defense.  And OSU is dangerous because they've got some talent that can pull off some unexpected wins.

I'm not ready to put us in the 'safely in' category yet.

[kso_FAN]

Still landing on the 9 line...

['taterblast]

will take if we get Saint Louis in first round and Ohio State in second round. (is Ohio St. gonna be a 1 seed? LBracketologyIQ)

[Powercat Posse]

If we win tommorrow.... very little chance we are on that 9 line.   In fact i think there is a greater than 50/50 chance we are on the 7 line.

3 wins vs current top 15 and 5 wins vs top 40 is really going to help us.   As will the 9-5 record away from home

St Louis currently has ZERO top 50 wins.   Memphis has only 2 top 50 wins and 5 losses in the non con.
St Marys had no good wins in the non con and has 1 win on the road/neutral vs top 100

[Powercat Posse]

As of March 4th (Sunday night), we are right on the line of being a 7 or 8 seed still.    I would like to think we are closer to being a 7 than an 8, but the game with Baylor could very well have impact on where we will fall.   A win and we will jump into the talk of being a 6/7 seed.  A loss and our chances likely dip under 50/50 to get a 7 seed.   


Here are the possible 7 seeds as of now =

1) Iowa St =  No top 100 wins in non con and 4-7 road record hurts.   12-6 in conf with 2 top 15 wins.  RPI/SOS is 30/35

2) Gonzaga  3) St Marys =  They play for the WCC tommorrow night. 25-5 and 24-5 respectively.  The loser will be in the 8-9 seed discussion. The winner will be 7 seed at best, and could still end up in the 8-9 seed.  St Marys won the leauge by 1 game, but Gonzaga has the better non con wins and has slightly better SOS 

4) SD St =  Tied for 1st with N Mexico in Mt West.  22-6 with rpi of 25
5) N Mexico = Tied for 1st with SDSU in MWest. 23-6 with rpi of 33.
** These 2 are very similar.  SDSU has a better SOS.   SDSU also better non con wins (Cal, L Beach) vs N Mex (St Louis)

6) Purdue =  10-8 in Big 10, but only 1-7 vs MSU, Osu, Mich, Ind, Wisc.   Best wins - Mich Temple


Right now IMO =
6 seeds -  Florida, Louisville, Creighton,  UNLV
7 seeds -  Iowa St, Kstate, SD St, Gonzaga
8 seeds -  N Mexico, Purdue, St Marys, Memphis
9 seeds -  Cincy, St Louis, So Miss, Virginia

[kso_FAN]

Moving up!

[Cartierfor3]

shouldn't our neutral record be 4-1?  3 in Hawaii, 1 in KC, 1 in Wichita?  I expect perfection on these spread sheets. 

[Trim]

shouldn't our neutral record be 4-1?  3 in Hawaii, 1 in KC, 1 in Wichita?  I expect perfection on these spread sheets. 

Looks like they subscribe to the skeetbag theory that the Wichita game was a home game.

[buttsbuttsbutts]

shouldn't our neutral record be 4-1?  3 in Hawaii, 1 in KC, 1 in Wichita?  I expect perfection on these spread sheets. 

Looks like they subscribe to the skeetbag theory that the Wichita game was a home game.

this, but it looks like they picked KC instead.

[kso_FAN]

shouldn't our neutral record be 4-1?  3 in Hawaii, 1 in KC, 1 in Wichita?  I expect perfection on these spread sheets. 

Looks like they subscribe to the skeetbag theory that the Wichita game was a home game.

this, but it looks like they picked KC instead.

Yeah, the numbers in the chart are based on how the games factor into the RPI formula.

[Pete]

Crap, I don't see a Baylor win moving us to a 7, do you?

[Trim]

shouldn't our neutral record be 4-1?  3 in Hawaii, 1 in KC, 1 in Wichita?  I expect perfection on these spread sheets. 

Looks like they subscribe to the skeetbag theory that the Wichita game was a home game.

this, but it looks like they picked KC instead.

You're right, and evidently so was steve dave about skeetbag being the only dumbass on earth who thought Wichita was a home game because there were a lot of cat fans there.

[Cartierfor3]

shouldn't our neutral record be 4-1?  3 in Hawaii, 1 in KC, 1 in Wichita?  I expect perfection on these spread sheets. 

Looks like they subscribe to the skeetbag theory that the Wichita game was a home game.

this, but it looks like they picked KC instead.
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Yeah, the numbers in the chart are based on how the games factor into the RPI formula.

well that's not fair. 

[kso_FAN]

Crap, I don't see a Baylor win moving us to a 7, do you?

I don't know, Baylor is still in the Top 10 in the RPI, so it would likely give us another Top 25 win. I don't know if that's enough or not, it could be though based on looking at the chart. It really just depends on which factors the committee values when seeding the teams this year.

[kso_FAN]

well that's not fair. 

The criteria for home vs neutral in the RPI when the game isn't at your actual home court is whether or not the ticket office of the team in question handles the ticket sales. If the ticket sales are handled by the K-State's ticket office, then it is a home game in the RPI.