Resume of teams (teams in the mix for 7-9 seeds) Updated 3-4-12

[Powercat Posse]

It looks like right now, the chances of us getting a seed 7-9 are very high.   Could get a 6 seed if we win 3 more.  A 10 seed is almost out of the question IMO, but not impossible i guess.

As of Friday morning, Lunardi had these 4 teams as 10 seeds ( WVirg, Miss St, Cincy, UConn).   All of those teams lost over the weekend.   So i would agree that none of those 4 teams are in the mix right now for the 8/9 seed game.    Likewise the 4 teams he has at 11 seeds (Bama Wash, L Beach, harvard) dont have the resume for 8/9 seeded game talk either

So here are quick resume breakdown for those teams that are in the 7-9 seed mix =

KSTATE 19-9,8-8  RPI 45.   3 big wins vs Mizz 2 and at Bay.   2 bad Losses

1) N Mexico (JL had them a 6 on Fri.  They lost Sat).   =  22-6, 8-4.   RPI 35.    Best wins = St Louis and Unlv.  1 bad loss

2) Gonzaga 23-5, 12-3.   RPI 18.  Best wins =  Notre Dame, St Marys.  1 bad loss

3) Creighton 25-5, 14-4.  RPI 24.   Best wins =  at Wich St, at SD St.  2 bad losses

4) Iowa St 21-8, 11-5.  RPI 31.  Best wins  Ku and Kstate 2.   Bad losses-2

5) Purdue 19-10, 9-7.  RPI 40.   Record vs top 5 teams in Big 10 is 1-6(won at Mich).  Other good win was Temple.  2 bad losses

6) Virginia 21-7 8-6.  RPI 39.   Only 1 Top50 win (Mich).  0-4 vs ACC top 3.    2 bad losses

7) St Marys 23-5, 14-2.  RPI 32.  Best wins Gonz, BYU 2..... so no good wins in non con.  1 bad loss

8) SD St 20-6, 8-4.  RPI 27.  Best wins Unlv, at NMex, L Beach.  1 bad loss

9) Memphis 21-8, 11-3.  RPI 20.  Best wins South Miss, at Miami. 1 bad loss

10) St Louis 21-6 10-4, RPI 36.   Best wins at Xav,  Wash.  2 bad losses

11)  Cal 23-7  13-4.  RPI 35.   Only 1 top 50 win (Wash).  2 bad losses

12) So Miss 21-6 10-4  RPI 15.   Best wins Mem, at Col St.   3 bad losses




I think right now we are on that line of being either a 7 or 8 seed.   Win these last 2 conf games and we would clearly be a 7 seed heading into Kansas City.

 A loss to aTm would be considered a bad loss...... and at 9-9 we would be in the 8/9 Ncaa seed  heading to Kansas city

[kso_FAN]

At this point we are safely in, no doubt about it. I think winning the last 2 and losing the first in KC would put us right on the 7/8 border line. It probably takes 3 more wins (with a win over ISU or BU) to get us safely out of the 8/9 slot.

[Powercat Posse]

I agree FAN.  2 wins then a loss in KC.......... and its that border line  between 7/8 seed

Win these next 3 games and we are a 7 seed for sure.    If our KC win was over Baylor......... then a 6 is possible as that would give us 4 wins over top 15 RPI teams


A lot of those teams listed above are from non BCS leagues.   One thing we have going for us is having those 3 big wins.  No one on that list can match us in the top 25 rpi win area (and ours are all top 15 rpi wins).   We have 5 wins vs top 50.  Only Purdue can say they have that too.   

[Stevesie60]

So goEMAW needs to assign shifts for everyone to cheer against the current 6 seeds? Got it. Mods, can you get on that?

[sys]

pretty much don't care if kstate gets a 6 or a 9.  i'll root against the other 6s when it's my turn though, i'm a loyalist.

[Stevesie60]

Obviously you would know more than me, but I think there's not much distinction between 1 and 2 seeds, and a drop off to the 3 seeds. Would much rather play a 3 seed in our second game. The obvious counter argument is that we've shown we can beat anyone just depending on whether or not we show up, so maybe it doesn't matter too much.

[sys]

other than playing kentucky, i don't really care about the 2nd round match up.  the 2st round match up is just pretty random, i think, irregardless of whether you're a 6 or a 9.

[Powercat Posse]

N Mexico was a 6 seed but they lost to TCU over the weekend. 

UNLV, also a Mt West team was a 6 seed. They play AT bubble team Colo St in 3 days

Vandy was a 6 seed.  Lost to UK over the wkend.   Have 2 games they could lose (FLA and at Tenn)


Murray St was the other 6

[wetwillie]

Frank is a first round hero, doesn't matter who they line us up against.

[Powercat Posse]

I would rather be in the 6/7 seed as oppossed to the 8/9 seed.

3 seeds like Gtown or Michigan.......  I would welcome that matchup in 2nd round
If Duke gets a 2 seed ........ they are very beatable


and never know.  A 3 seed has lost in 1st round in 3 of the past 7 years

[kim carnes]

I would rather be in the 6/7 seed as oppossed to the 8/9 seed.

3 seeds like Gtown or Michigan.......  I would welcome that matchup in 2nd round
If Duke gets a 2 seed ........ they are very beatable


and never know.  A 3 seed has lost in 1st round in 3 of the past 7 years

oh man, I can't even imagine how bad they would beat us.

[Stevesie60]

I would rather be in the 6/7 seed as oppossed to the 8/9 seed.

3 seeds like Gtown or Michigan.......  I would welcome that matchup in 2nd round
If Duke gets a 2 seed ........ they are very beatable


and never know.  A 3 seed has lost in 1st round in 3 of the past 7 years

oh man, I can't even imagine how bad they would beat us.

Seriously, I can't even imagine how bad a team like Baylor would beat us.

[kim carnes]

I would rather be in the 6/7 seed as oppossed to the 8/9 seed.

3 seeds like Gtown or Michigan.......  I would welcome that matchup in 2nd round
If Duke gets a 2 seed ........ they are very beatable


and never know.  A 3 seed has lost in 1st round in 3 of the past 7 years

oh man, I can't even imagine how bad they would beat us.

Seriously, I can't even imagine how bad a team like Baylor would beat us.

Baylor and Duke could not be more different.  Particularly when it comes to coaching.

[Stevesie60]

I would rather be in the 6/7 seed as oppossed to the 8/9 seed.

3 seeds like Gtown or Michigan.......  I would welcome that matchup in 2nd round
If Duke gets a 2 seed ........ they are very beatable


and never know.  A 3 seed has lost in 1st round in 3 of the past 7 years

oh man, I can't even imagine how bad they would beat us.

Seriously, I can't even imagine how bad a team like Baylor would beat us.

Baylor and Duke could not be more different.  Particularly when it comes to coaching.

Well, Duke is at the very worst a 2, and a borderline 1 seed right now. But thanks for proving my point that there's a huge drop off between the 2 seeds and the 3 seeds.

[Powercat Posse]

duke was down 20 at home to freakin NC St at one point.  Just this week they had to win at home in OT vs Va Tech.     And they lost to Miami at home.      Considering the other 1-2 seeds...........i would be fine being with them if we were a 7 (or 8 if they got a 1)

[AbeFroman]

Missouri and kansas getting both 2's would be interesting to if we get a 7. Would it limit where we could go correct?

[sys]

Missouri and kansas getting both 2's would be interesting to if we get a 7. Would it limit where we could go correct?

theoretically, it'd limit kstate to the other two regions.  in reality, if they wanted kstate at a certain location, they'd just move them to a 6 or an 8, or even a 5 or a 9.

[kso_FAN]

I just really don't want to be an 8/9. To me Syracuse and Kentucky are by far the best 1s and I don't want to be matched up with either in the 2nd round. Other than that I'm good with whatever.

[kougar24]

This weekend they pushed up Minnesota's resume during the Minn/Indiana game as a bubble team.

Minnesota is 5-11 in the Big 10 I believe.

I feel pretty good about K-State 'Cats Basketball right now.

[AbeFroman]

This weekend they pushed up Minnesota's resume during the Minn/Indiana game as a bubble team.

Minnesota is 5-11 in the Big 10 I believe.

I feel pretty good about K-State 'Cats Basketball right now.

It all depends on if the committee wants to reward or screw the mid majors. As far as major conferences go we've got a good resume.

[Powercat Posse]

The last few at large teams right now have pretty weak resumes.  Lunardi has theses 2 in right now
Northwestern  7-9 in conf, and only have 2 top 50 wins
Miami is  17-10, 8-6,  but they have only 2 wins vs top 75 (duke Fsu)

South Fla is in is his last 4 out.    Their non con was 6-6 with 3 bad losses and no wins vs top 75.  They are 11-5 in the Big East right now, but their schedule is weak.   Of their 11 conf wins, 9 are vs Big East teams outside the top 90.   


If Kstate can win these next 2 games, i dont feel we will be lower than an 8 (although being a 9 is basicly the same).   I too hope we are not in the 8/9 game and we can play ourselves into a 7 seed (or maybe a 6 if we have another big win in us)

[Stevesie60]

Best thing we can do is beat Baylor again in the Big 12 tournament, and it's very possible that they finish 4th.

[michigancat]

I hope we fall to a 10

[AbeFroman]

I hope we fall to a 10

7/10 matchup is ideal regardless of which one we are.

8/9 might as well 

[michigancat]

I hope we fall to a 10

7/10 matchup is ideal regardless of which one we are.

8/9 might as well 

yeah, not scared of anyone but Kentucky.