Baylor is a great example....

[WillieWatanabe]

[JavaCat]

So, with Trob leaving, and Withey continuing his Danny Manning coached super star rise, there should be no drop off for the hawks next year right?  I mean, there's probably 2-3 more guys ready to make their leap in growth from Danny's magic touch, right?

We should expect to see Young and Wesley dominate next year, right?

Young and Wesley might not even be on the roster next year.  KU will have Withey, Traylor, Ellis, Peters, Lucas, and possibly Jakarr Sampson.  We will be loaded once again next season.  

Why aren't Young and Wesley developing? Does Danny believe they're not worthy of developing?

[CHONGS]

In fact of all of the "blue bloods" in college basketball KU is the worst at developing big men.

[Cire]

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=2-jeff-withey&p1=thomas-gipson

withey does own him in blocks though

[Cartierfor3]

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=2-jeff-withey&p1=thomas-gipson

/thread.  Jedi mind trick didn't work this time.

[OregonSmock]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

[wes mantooth]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

just wondering what big men ku coaches have developed outside of 4 and 5 star guys 

[bigwillie20]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

[OregonSmock]

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=2-jeff-withey&p1=thomas-gipson

Yeah, Withey is much better than Gipson, and it's not even close.  If you took a look at their stats for Big 12 games it would be even more lopsided.  Withey is going to be the Big 12 Defensive Player of the Year.  You guys are all delusional and in denial.  It's fascinating stuff.  I mean just take a look at the stats from their last head-to-head matchup:

Jeff Withey, C   36   6-8   0-0   6-7   6   11   1   1   9   1   2   18


Thomas Gipson, F   17   2-5   0-0   3-4   4   8   1   0   1   0   3   7

     

[OregonSmock]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

[wes mantooth]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did.  also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size

[OregonSmock]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did.  also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size

Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.


Withey:  11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,

Gipson:  5.8 ppg,  3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg


    

[wes mantooth]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did.  also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size

Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.


Withey:  11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,

Gipson:  5.8 ppg,  3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg


    

gipson doesn't play much for us though

[OregonSmock]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

just wondering what big men ku coaches have developed outside of 4 and 5 star guys 

For the last time, this thread is highlighting the fact that just because a guy is a 4/5-star recruit does not mean he's automatically going to be good.  Look at Perry Jones III.  Look at Wally Judge.  Look at Jason Bennett.  KU develops their big men better than any other program in the country.  All of you clowns thought Withey sucked before the season started, and he just dropped a near triple-double on your asses the other night.  Step out of your EMAW bubble for a second and take a look at reality.  

[OregonSmock]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did.  also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size

Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.


Withey:  11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,

Gipson:  5.8 ppg,  3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg


    

gipson doesn't play much for us though

Yeah, because he's not that good.  Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.

[wes mantooth]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did.  also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size

Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.


Withey:  11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,

Gipson:  5.8 ppg,  3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg


    

gipson doesn't play much for us though

Yeah, because he's not that good.  Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.

you only say samuels because he owned Robinson, but whatev

[OregonSmock]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did.  also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size

Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.


Withey:  11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,

Gipson:  5.8 ppg,  3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg


    

gipson doesn't play much for us though

Yeah, because he's not that good.  Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.

you only say samuels because he owned Robinson, but whatev

He didn't own anything.  He dropped a couple threes and played his best game of the season, and K-State still lost.  T-Rob is in the lead for National Player of the Year. 

[wes mantooth]

You guys are all delusional outside of dlew and a couple others.  Good grief.  I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective. 

Yes, the irony... I predicted before the season that KU would be better than K-State and would likely win an 8th straight Big 12 title.  You guys predicted a sweep of KU and said that KU would suck.  You guys can't even acknowledge when KU's big men show improvement.  It's hilariously pathetic.

only dumbfucks predicted a sweep of ku, so i'm guessing not many people here did.  also, your withey v gipson 1 game comparo is just a 1 game sample size

Okay, let's compare Big 12 stats then.


Withey:  11.2 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 4 bpg,

Gipson:  5.8 ppg,  3.8 rpg, 0.3 bpg


    

gipson doesn't play much for us though

Yeah, because he's not that good.  Your frontline is horrible outside of Samuels.

you only say samuels because he owned Robinson, but whatev

He didn't own anything.  He dropped a couple threes and played his best game of the season, and K-State still lost.  T-Rob is in the lead for National Player of the Year. 

non factor in mhk though.  i guess i expected more from the NPOY

[OregonSmock]

Total non-factor was one rebound shy of a double double and helped KU sweep the grapes on the way to 44-3. 

[wes mantooth]

Total non-factor was one rebound shy of a double double and helped KU sweep the grapes on the way to 44-3. 

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

[OregonSmock]

Jeff Withey just swatted another shot in AFH West.  #mostimprovedplayerinthecountry


    

[JavaCat]

I will admit it's too bad Judge and Bennett didn't stay. They both would've been better than Withey.

[GoodForAnother]

guys, I'm looking at the stats here, and thomas gipson is pretty much just as good as jeff withey even though he's several years younger and is coached by functioning retards rather than danny "the fixer" manning

it's baffling -- does this have something to do with gip's beard?

[wabash909]

I wish you could see yourselves from a third person perspective!

[massofcatfan]

do not know if Danny Manning is a great coach. do know that every KU person I've talked to who has met the guy says he is not a particularly friendly/nice individual



(by "every KU person I've talked to" I mean one guy in a bar)