ksu bowl thread

[SdK]

Can you imagine OSU beating LSU and KSU beating Bama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kat Kid]

Can you imagine OSU beating LSU and KSU beating Bama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rage Against the McKee]

So, does this mean KSU finishes #8 in the BCS tomorrow? If one of the AQ conferences only gets 1 team in the BCS despite having 2 teams in the top 8, that's a crock of crap.

if we're #8, we're in to the BCS automatically

Sorry, I'm not seeing this rule. I thought the top-8 rule only applied to Notre Dame.

I believe it's the K-State Rule (really)

[SdK]

Can you imagine OSU beating LSU and KSU beating Bama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That guy is hideous. 

[pike]

So wait is Houston still eligible for the BCS? I was just reading the selection rules and I'm now extremely confused.

[kstater]

So, does this mean KSU finishes #8 in the BCS tomorrow? If one of the AQ conferences only gets 1 team in the BCS despite having 2 teams in the top 8, that's a crock of crap.

if we're #8, we're in to the BCS automatically

Sorry, I'm not seeing this rule. I thought the top-8 rule only applied to Notre Dame.

I believe it's the K-State Rule (really)

Top 3, or Top 4 if 3rd is a conference Champ.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Cats will move up to #9 won't they?

this is exactly how things will go. it is exactly how things were always going to go.

We should jump OU, Houston, and VT... will anyone jump us is the question.

Seeing as how the human voters are already screwing us over about as much as they can (#15 and #16), I just can't see anybody jumping us. The computers love us.

[kstater]

So wait is Houston still eligible for the BCS? I was just reading the selection rules and I'm now extremely confused.

If they stay top 14, they could theoretically get an at large.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So, does this mean KSU finishes #8 in the BCS tomorrow? If one of the AQ conferences only gets 1 team in the BCS despite having 2 teams in the top 8, that's a crock of crap.

if we're #8, we're in to the BCS automatically

Sorry, I'm not seeing this rule. I thought the top-8 rule only applied to Notre Dame.

I believe it's the K-State Rule (really)

Where is it?

Automatic qualification

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings shall play in the National Championship Game.

2. The champions of the Atlantic Coast, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, and Southeastern conferences will have automatic berths in one of the participating bowls through the 2013 regular season.

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

  A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
  B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.

No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.) If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be considered for at-large selection if it meets the criteria.

4. Notre Dame will have an automatic berth if it is in the top eight of the final BCS Standings.

5. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 4, and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 3 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier, provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

6. If any of the 10 slots remain open after application of provisions 1 through 5, and if no team qualifies under paragraph No. 5 and an at-large team from a conference with an annual automatic berth for its champion is ranked No. 4 in the final BCS Standings, that team will become an automatic qualifier provided that no at-large team from the same conference qualifies for the national championship game.

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At-large eligibility

If there are fewer than 10 automatic qualifiers, then the bowls will select at-large participants to fill the remaining berths. An at-large team is any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible and meets the following requirements:

  A. Has won at least nine regular-season games, and
  B. Is among the top 14 teams in the final BCS Standings.

No more than two teams from a conference may be selected, regardless of whether they are automatic qualifiers or at-large selections, unless two non-champions from the same conference are ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the final BCS Standings.

If fewer than 10 teams are eligible for selection, then the Bowls can select as an at-large team any Football Bowl Subdivision team that is bowl-eligible, has won at least nine regular-season games and is among the top 18 teams in the final BCS Standings subject to the two-team limit noted above and also subject to the following: (1) if any conference has two or more teams in the top 14, then two of those teams must be selected and (2) from the teams ranked 15-18, a bowl can select only a team from a conference that has fewer than two teams in the top 14.

If expansion of the pool to 18 teams does not result in 10 teams eligible for selection, then the pool shall be expanded by blocks of 4 teams until 10 eligible teams are available subject to the two-team limit noted above and also subject to the following: (1) if any conference has two or more teams in the top 14, then two of those teams must be selected and (2) from the teams ranked 15 or lower, a bowl can select only a team from a conference that has fewer than two teams in the top 14.

Relative to the two preceding paragraphs, all teams ranked in the top 14, other than those from conferences which have already had two teams selected, must be included in the bowl selections.

Note: in order to participate in a BCS Bowl game, a team (i) must be eligible for post-season play under the rules of the NCAA and, if it not an independent, under the rules of its conference and (ii) must not have imposed sanctions upon itself prohibiting participation in a post-season game for infractions of the rules of the NCAA or the rules of its conference.

[Dr Rick Daris]

so, like go down for new years and then stick around for the game? thoughts? i mean new years in new orleans? wow.

[kso_FAN]

So wait is Houston still eligible for the BCS? I was just reading the selection rules and I'm now extremely confused.

If they stay top 14, they could theoretically get an at large.

They are done, no chance.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So wait is Houston still eligible for the BCS? I was just reading the selection rules and I'm now extremely confused.

If they stay top 14, they could theoretically get an at large.

Nobody wants Houston now. Boise has a slim chance. TCU might be an AQ if they can crack the top 16.

[MadCat]

Can you imagine OSU beating LSU and KSU beating Bama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That guy is hideous. 

that's not as important as what he's doing.

[kstater]

So wait is Houston still eligible for the BCS? I was just reading the selection rules and I'm now extremely confused.

If they stay top 14, they could theoretically get an at large.

They are done, no chance.

Don't disagree.

[Rage Against the McKee]

So, does this mean KSU finishes #8 in the BCS tomorrow? If one of the AQ conferences only gets 1 team in the BCS despite having 2 teams in the top 8, that's a crock of crap.

if we're #8, we're in to the BCS automatically

Sorry, I'm not seeing this rule. I thought the top-8 rule only applied to Notre Dame.

I believe it's the K-State Rule (really)

Top 3, or Top 4 if 3rd is a conference Champ.

Yeah. I just looked up the rules and I see nothing about the top 8 unless you are Notre Dame.

[Panjandrum]

Cats will move up to #9 won't they?

this is exactly how things will go. it is exactly how things were always going to go.

We should jump OU, Houston, and VT... will anyone jump us is the question.

I bet Mich St will if they win. Wisconsin I'm not so sure about

The computers don't like the Big Ten.  They love us.

[ksucrcoop]

We will move up to #5 in the Computer polls and a minimum of #12 with a potential of #10 in the human polls. This could push us over Oregon or Boise (#9 & #10 in computers), and I don't think Sparty or Wisc will gain enough in the computers to pass us in the BCS. In other words, I think we'll be #8 in the next rankings...

Current Computer Avgs:
1   LSU
2   Alabama
3   Oklahoma State
4   Stanford
5   Oklahoma
6   Arkansas
6   Kansas State

We will pass the following 3 loss teams in the Human Polls:
(Harris/USA Today)
#12/14 Georgia - 3 losses
#10/11 Oklahoma - 3 losses
#13/12 Wisky or #11/9 Sparty - either with 3 losses

Teams we might pass:
#6 Houston - exposed 1 loss posers
#4/3 Va Tech - worst SOS ever, but unlikely we pass

[Rage Against the McKee]

Does it matter if we are #8, though? I could easily see a BCS bowl taking Virginia Tech over us.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So, does this mean KSU finishes #8 in the BCS tomorrow? If one of the AQ conferences only gets 1 team in the BCS despite having 2 teams in the top 8, that's a crock of crap.

if we're #8, we're in to the BCS automatically

Sorry, I'm not seeing this rule. I thought the top-8 rule only applied to Notre Dame.

I believe it's the K-State Rule (really)

Top 3, or Top 4 if 3rd is a conference Champ.

Yeah. I just looked up the rules and I see nothing about the top 8 unless you are Notre Dame.

Yeah, and I wasn't trying to call you out - these rules are all mumped up. I won't pretend to totally understand them.

[kcchiefdav]

Does it matter if we are #8, though? I could easily see a BCS bowl taking Virginia Tech over us.

No BCS bowl wants 1 ACC team, I can't imagine 2 bowls want an ACC team.

[kso_FAN]

VT got beat by 4 touchdowns, they are done for the BCS. The BCS does plenty of stupid things, but not that stupid.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

We will pass the following 3 loss teams in the Human Polls:
(Harris/USA Today)
#12/14 Georgia - 3 losses
#10/11 Oklahoma - 3 losses
#13/12 Wisky or #11/9 Sparty - either with 3 losses

Teams we might pass:
#6 Houston - exposed 1 loss posers
#4/3 Va Tech - worst SOS ever, but unlikely we pass

We will pass both Houston and VT. The Top 8 of the BCS tomorrow will be:
LSU
Alabama
OSU
Stanford
Oregon
Boise State
Arkansas
KSU

I don't see the winner of Wiscy/MSU cracking this top 8 because of their terrible computer rankings.

[Kornheiser]

heard sugar was more than possible with ksu and osu win and i am sticking to it and nobody is talking me out of it.

But if OSU jumps Bama, Sugar's going to take them.

I mean, we may end up in the Sugar against Bama, but yeesh.

Would not take.  (need a funny kornheiser here)

[goldenticket]

VT got beat by 4 touchdowns, they are done for the BCS. The BCS does plenty of stupid things, but not that stupid.

yeah they said at the end of that game VT is prob going to the chick-fil-a bowl

[Houstoncat93]

Does it matter if we are #8, though? I could easily see a BCS bowl taking Virginia Tech over us.

No being #8 doesn't matter.  We'd have to go all the way to 4 to get an autobid (assuming OSU is #3).

At this point things that really matter:

Does Michigan move into the top 14 making them a eligible

Does TCU get to 16 making them an automatic qualifier.