BCS Odds

[Panjandrum]

If Houston loses, they won't qualify, but I think maybe Boise State does. I'm not sure. 

If Houston loses, none of this matters at all.  We'll probably be playing Boise or Michigan in the Sugar Bowl.

[Panjandrum]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

If Houston loses, they won't qualify, but I think maybe Boise State does. I'm not sure.  

If Houston loses, none of this matters at all.  We'll probably be playing Boise or Michigan in the Sugar Bowl.

Houston losing would just mean that a BCS at-large spot opens up. You'd then be down to Boise State, Michigan (if they qualify) and OU/OSU/KSU fighting over two at-large berths.

A 10-2 OSU would have a higher BCS ranking and national buzz than KSU, so its very unlikely KSU goes Sugar ahead of OSU.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

I just cannot imagine a scenario where T. Boone doesn't get OSU into a BCS game.

[Spaces]

If Houston loses, they won't qualify, but I think maybe Boise State does. I'm not sure.  

If Houston loses, none of this matters at all.  We'll probably be playing Boise or Michigan in the Sugar Bowl.

Houston losing would just mean that a BCS at-large spot opens up. You'd then be down to Boise State, Michigan (if they qualify) and OU/OSU/KSU fighting over two at-large berths.

A 10-2 OSU would have a higher BCS ranking and national buzz than KSU, so its very unlikely KSU goes Sugar ahead of OSU.

Pan just said we'd go over OSU, but thanks though.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

If Houston loses, they won't qualify, but I think maybe Boise State does. I'm not sure.  

If Houston loses, none of this matters at all.  We'll probably be playing Boise or Michigan in the Sugar Bowl.

Houston losing would just mean that a BCS at-large spot opens up. You'd then be down to Boise State, Michigan (if they qualify) and OU/OSU/KSU fighting over two at-large berths.

A 10-2 OSU would have a higher BCS ranking and national buzz than KSU, so its very unlikely KSU goes Sugar ahead of OSU.

Pan just said we'd go over OSU, but thanks though.

He's more optimistic than I am. KSU definitely has factors in its favor, but the biggest factor in bowl selection is national interest, and its tough to argue OSU doesn't have an advantage here. They were national title contenders and all over the media for most of the year.

[Spaces]

They have T-Boone and artsy unis, but we're cooler and better.

[Spaces]

One time in Hawaii, I saw people wearing K-State stuff. Didn't see any OSU stuff.

Maybe it doesn't mean anything BCS wise, but maybe it does. 

[Panjandrum]

If Houston loses, they won't qualify, but I think maybe Boise State does. I'm not sure.  

If Houston loses, none of this matters at all.  We'll probably be playing Boise or Michigan in the Sugar Bowl.

Houston losing would just mean that a BCS at-large spot opens up. You'd then be down to Boise State, Michigan (if they qualify) and OU/OSU/KSU fighting over two at-large berths.

A 10-2 OSU would have a higher BCS ranking and national buzz than KSU, so its very unlikely KSU goes Sugar ahead of OSU.

Pan just said we'd go over OSU, but thanks though.

He's more optimistic than I am. KSU definitely has factors in its favor, but the biggest factor in bowl selection is national interest, and its tough to argue OSU doesn't have an advantage here. They were national title contenders and all over the media for most of the year.

The only national buzz around OSU, should they lose Bedlam, will be as a team in a tailspin at the end of the year.

KSU, on the other hand, finished with a thriller against A&M, beat Texas in Austin on Senior Day, and ended with a win against an upstart Iowa State team.

It wouldn't hurt if OU is able to put an absolute whipping on them in Stillwater, either.

[Asteriskhead]

One time in Hawaii, I saw people wearing K-State stuff. Didn't see any OSU stuff.

Maybe it doesn't mean anything BCS wise, but maybe it does. 

Made some fans in '94 at the Aloha Classic no doubt.

[mcmwcat]

One time in Hawaii, I saw people wearing K-State stuff. Didn't see any OSU stuff.

Maybe it doesn't mean anything BCS wise, but maybe it does. 

i got mobbed wearing a k-state hat in Honolulu last week.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

He's more optimistic than I am. KSU definitely has factors in its favor, but the biggest factor in bowl selection is national interest, and its tough to argue OSU doesn't have an advantage here. They were national title contenders and all over the media for most of the year.

The only national buzz around OSU, should they lose Bedlam, will be as a team in a tailspin at the end of the year.

KSU, on the other hand, finished with a thriller against A&M, beat Texas in Austin on Senior Day, and ended with a win against an upstart Iowa State team.

It wouldn't hurt if OU is able to put an absolute whipping on them in Stillwater, either.

No publicity is bad publicity. Ask a random football fan who doesn't follow the Big 12 whether they'd rather see OSU or KSU in the Sugar Bowl, and he'd probably wonder why KSU is even a choice.

[mcmwcat]

He's more optimistic than I am. KSU definitely has factors in its favor, but the biggest factor in bowl selection is national interest, and its tough to argue OSU doesn't have an advantage here. They were national title contenders and all over the media for most of the year.

The only national buzz around OSU, should they lose Bedlam, will be as a team in a tailspin at the end of the year.

KSU, on the other hand, finished with a thriller against A&M, beat Texas in Austin on Senior Day, and ended with a win against an upstart Iowa State team.

It wouldn't hurt if OU is able to put an absolute whipping on them in Stillwater, either.

No publicity is bad publicity. Ask a random football fan who doesn't follow the Big 12 whether they'd rather see OSU or KSU in the Sugar Bowl, and he'd probably wonder why KSU is even a choice.

go kill yourself.  tia

[kim carnes]

If Houston loses, they won't qualify, but I think maybe Boise State does. I'm not sure.  

If Houston loses, none of this matters at all.  We'll probably be playing Boise or Michigan in the Sugar Bowl.

Houston losing would just mean that a BCS at-large spot opens up. You'd then be down to Boise State, Michigan (if they qualify) and OU/OSU/KSU fighting over two at-large berths.

A 10-2 OSU would have a higher BCS ranking and national buzz than KSU, so its very unlikely KSU goes Sugar ahead of OSU.

Pan just said we'd go over OSU, but thanks though.

He's more optimistic than I am. KSU definitely has factors in its favor, but the biggest factor in bowl selection is national interest, and its tough to argue OSU doesn't have an advantage here. They were national title contenders and all over the media for most of the year.

OSU has no chance at a BCS bowl if they lose this weekend.

[kim carnes]

Last year, South Carolina fell from #19 to #20 in the BCS standing after losing to Auburn in the SEC championship.  I'm going to go ahead and book my flights to Nawlins, we're a rough ridin' lock.

 

[Winters]

Last year, South Carolina fell from #19 to #20 in the BCS standing after losing to Auburn in the SEC championship.  I'm going to go ahead and book my flights to Nawlins, we're a rough ridin' lock.

 

You are bold Kim Carnes.

[pufiZzle]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

Wouldn't we be a more attractive at large selection compared to a 9-3 OU team other than a 10-2 OSU team?  Everyone is saying we want OU to win (obviously for the delicious 23 flavors) but OSU winning would completely eliminate OU from an at large bid whereas OSU would still look pretty dang good to the Sugar if they lost. 

[SdK]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

Wouldn't we be a more attractive at large selection compared to a 9-3 OU team other than a 10-2 OSU team?  Everyone is saying we want OU to win (obviously for the delicious 23 flavors) but OSU winning would completely eliminate OU from an at large bid whereas OSU would still look pretty dang good to the Sugar if they lost. 

Why? we took them to the wire on their field. They would have lost two in a row. I don't see how they would be me attractive???? They are the sexier team, sure, but I don't see how their resume beats ours.

[mcmwcat]

 

[steve dave]

[Barry McCockner]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

Wouldn't we be a more attractive at large selection compared to a 9-3 OU team other than a 10-2 OSU team?  Everyone is saying we want OU to win (obviously for the delicious 23 flavors) but OSU winning would completely eliminate OU from an at large bid whereas OSU would still look pretty dang good to the Sugar if they lost. 

Why? we took them to the wire on their field. They would have lost two in a row. I don't see how they would be me attractive???? They are the sexier team, sure, but I don't see how their resume beats ours.

Sexy matters, resume doesn't.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

Wouldn't we be a more attractive at large selection compared to a 9-3 OU team other than a 10-2 OSU team?  Everyone is saying we want OU to win (obviously for the delicious 23 flavors) but OSU winning would completely eliminate OU from an at large bid whereas OSU would still look pretty dang good to the Sugar if they lost. 

Why? we took them to the wire on their field. They would have lost two in a row. I don't see how they would be me attractive???? They are the sexier team, sure, but I don't see how their resume beats ours.

And if bowl berths were handed out based on merit, you would at least have an argument, but merit is way down the list for bowl committees. Any given bowl might choose a 10-2 KSU over a 10-2 OSU, but it is unlikely.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

Wouldn't we be a more attractive at large selection compared to a 9-3 OU team other than a 10-2 OSU team?  Everyone is saying we want OU to win (obviously for the delicious 23 flavors) but OSU winning would completely eliminate OU from an at large bid whereas OSU would still look pretty dang good to the Sugar if they lost. 

Maybe, but we wouldn't be the dadgum Big 12 Champs in that scenario, so that is the worst case.

[kim carnes]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

Wouldn't we be a more attractive at large selection compared to a 9-3 OU team other than a 10-2 OSU team?  Everyone is saying we want OU to win (obviously for the delicious 23 flavors) but OSU winning would completely eliminate OU from an at large bid whereas OSU would still look pretty dang good to the Sugar if they lost. 

Why? we took them to the wire on their field. They would have lost two in a row. I don't see how they would be me attractive???? They are the sexier team, sure, but I don't see how their resume beats ours.

Sexy matters, resume doesn't.

We are much, much sexier.  It's not even close.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Oklahoma winning would be good for us in all polls from a BCS standpoint.  We should all be Boomer Sooner on Saturday for BCS reasons, too.

Have we already discussed why K-State would be more attractive than OSU to the Sugar Bowl if OSU loses? No way they drop below us. Is it just because they would have lost 2 in a row?

From what I understand, there has been dialogue with the Sugar Bowl for some time now, and they are very interested in KSU.  Also, it would be hard to select a team into the BCS that has lost two straight games.

The ISU loss was bad, bad.  That was a showcase game on a boring Friday night.  Everyone saw that.

Wouldn't we be a more attractive at large selection compared to a 9-3 OU team other than a 10-2 OSU team?  Everyone is saying we want OU to win (obviously for the delicious 23 flavors) but OSU winning would completely eliminate OU from an at large bid whereas OSU would still look pretty dang good to the Sugar if they lost. 

Why? we took them to the wire on their field. They would have lost two in a row. I don't see how they would be me attractive???? They are the sexier team, sure, but I don't see how their resume beats ours.

Sexy matters, resume doesn't.

We are much, much sexier.  It's not even close.

vs.

Good call. Not even close.