WTF Happened to the Orange Bowl?

[Stevesie60]

The Sugar Bowl is in a worse stadium than the Orange Bowl, and I don't remember too many good games from that bowl recently, either.  Incredibly enough, you guys are still butthurt about the fact that KU won a BCS Bowl in 2008.  I love it. 


    

 

Beems posting this now so when we get to the Sugar Bowl he can point to it and say, "See, I've always said the Sugar Bowl sucks."

[Scary Smart]

It's been pretty difficult to watch Beems flail around on here like he has been lately. Come on, man, you're better than this.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The Sugar Bowl is in a worse stadium than the Orange Bowl, and I don't remember too many good games from that bowl recently, either.  Incredibly enough, you guys are still butthurt about the fact that KU won a BCS Bowl in 2008.  I love it.  


     

hmmm hadn't thought about that, perhaps a new thread.

Checked on the Sugar and found this

LSU    41    Notre Dame    14
Georgia    41    Hawai?i    10
Utah    31    Alabama    17
Florida    51    Cincinnati    24
Ohio State    31    Arkansas    26

Other than Hawaii and Cinci, all relevant and good teams.  Super Dome much newer and nicer than Joe Robby.

Objectively speaking, Sugar is probably the second or third worst, but still much better than Orange.

[Cartierfor3]

The Sugar Bowl is in a worse stadium than the Orange Bowl, and I don't remember too many good games from that bowl recently, either.  Incredibly enough, you guys are still butthurt about the fact that KU won a BCS Bowl in 2008.  I love it. 


    

I often doubt if Beems actually watches college football.

[EMAWmeister]

I would take another pinstripe bowl loss if it means we go better than 1-27 in conference play in like 3 years

[AbeFroman]

Was winning the Orange Bowl really that great? Nobody even remembers it. Especially that since then you've:

HISTORY AWAITS: 7 game losing streak, 1-7 in Big 12.
Fired the only coach that did anything good
Hired Turner Gill. Not Jim Harbaugh.
Payed Lew millions, after he stole millions from your own fanbase
Hired Turner Gill.
Win 2 games per season
Give up record number of points and yards
Hired Turner Gill.

[MadCat]

Was winning the Orange Bowl really that great? Nobody even remembers it. Especially that since then you've:

HISTORY AWAITS: 7 game losing streak, 1-7 in Big 12.
Fired the only coach that did anything good
Hired Turner Gill. Not Jim Harbaugh.
Payed Lew millions, after he stole millions from your own fanbase
Hired Turner Gill.
Win 2 games per season
Give up record number of points and yards
Hired Turner Gill.

According to a Gridiron episode, the oranges in the Orange Bowl trophy are real.  How much does it cost to keep that up?

[OregonSmock]

Was winning the Orange Bowl really that great? Nobody even remembers it. Especially that since then you've:

HISTORY AWAITS: 7 game losing streak, 1-7 in Big 12.
Fired the only coach that did anything good
Hired Turner Gill. Not Jim Harbaugh.
Payed Lew millions, after he stole millions from your own fanbase
Hired Turner Gill.
Win 2 games per season
Give up record number of points and yards
Hired Turner Gill.

1.  Nobody remembers it?  Then why is it mentioned damn near every day on this piece of sh*t board?

2.  Mangino isn't the only coach who did anything "good" for KU football.  Hell, Glen Mason was probably a better coach than Mangino, and had much less to work with during his time at KU.

3.  Wow... KU hired Turner Gill instead of Jim Harbaugh.  K-State hired Ron Prince instead of the other crap coaching candidates who applied for the job.  Then you hired Old Balls instead of Gary Patterson.  Congrats.

4.  KU won five games in '09, three games in '10, and currently has two wins this year.  That averages out to around three wins per year.  Not two.  Take a math class sometime. 

5.  Giving up a record number of points and yards just helps justify firing Turner Gill after only two years.  I'm actually kind of glad we sucked hard instead of pussy footing around and keeping Gill for an extra year or two. 

6.  You said that already.


Anything else? 

[OregonSmock]

The Sugar Bowl is in a worse stadium than the Orange Bowl, and I don't remember too many good games from that bowl recently, either.  Incredibly enough, you guys are still butthurt about the fact that KU won a BCS Bowl in 2008.  I love it. 


    

I often doubt if Beems actually watches college football.

Other than last year, the Sugar Bowl hasn't been competitive. 

[wabash909]

Where did Ben come up with this depleted Big XiI talking point?

How strange...

[LynchMob]

4.  KU won five games in '09, three games in '10, and currently has two wins this year.  That averages out to around three wins per year.  Not two.  Take a math class sometime. 

OH MAN! 3 average wins instead of 2! 

[Cire]

Bmw jedi mind tricked the eff out of this thread

[steve dave]

Bmw jedi mind tricked the eff out of this thread

Yes, most of our posters stand no chance against him.

[unleashthemob]

its kinda nice hearing a few tuck beakers defend there pile of crap football program, its a change from hearing them pretend like they don't give a crap because" ITS BASKETBALL SEASON"!

[Trim]

Was winning the Orange Bowl really that great? Nobody even remembers it.

1.  Nobody remembers it?  Then why is it mentioned damn near every day on this piece of sh*t board?

[kitten_mittons]

3.  Wow... KU hired Turner Gill instead of Jim Harbaugh.  K-State hired Ron Prince instead of the other crap coaching candidates who applied for the job.  Then you hired Old Balls instead of Gary Patterson.  Congrats.

This talking point would have KILLED in July.  Not so much right now, though.

[AbeFroman]

Was winning the Orange Bowl really that great? Nobody even remembers it. Especially that since then you've:

HISTORY AWAITS: 7 game losing streak, 1-7 in Big 12.
Fired the only coach that did anything good
Hired Turner Gill. Not Jim Harbaugh.
Payed Lew millions, after he stole millions from your own fanbase
Hired Turner Gill.
Win 2 games per season
Give up record number of points and yards
Hired Turner Gill.

1.  Nobody remembers it?  Then why is it mentioned damn near every day on this piece of sh*t board?

2.  Mangino isn't the only coach who did anything "good" for KU football.  Hell, Glen Mason was probably a better coach than Mangino, and had much less to work with during his time at KU.

3.  Wow... KU hired Turner Gill instead of Jim Harbaugh.  K-State hired Ron Prince instead of the other crap coaching candidates who applied for the job.  Then you hired Old Balls instead of Gary Patterson.  Congrats.

4.  KU won five games in '09, three games in '10, and currently has two wins this year.  That averages out to around three wins per year.  Not two.  Take a math class sometime. 

5.  Giving up a record number of points and yards just helps justify firing Turner Gill after only two years.  I'm actually kind of glad we sucked hard instead of pussy footing around and keeping Gill for an extra year or two. 

6.  You said that already.


Anything else? 

Oh man, 17-1 is just killing you.

[Asteriskhead]

They're just coming out of the woodwork in this thread.

JFC  

[bakerman]

agree, I can't even remember the last Orange Bowl I watched. Do Not Want.

I think it died with the good Big East teams moving to the ACC and competing with the the good ACC teams(not that there really are many) in the regular season.

[Kermit]

Where did Ben come up with this depleted Big XiI talking point?

How strange...

Not really sure.  Last I saw, 8 of 10 Big 12 teams were bowl eligible with the 9th team 1 win away.  Maybe all of college football is down and that's what he means.   

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Where did Ben come up with this depleted Big XiI talking point?

How strange...

Not really sure.  Last I saw, 8 of 10 Big 12 teams were bowl eligible with the 9th team 1 win away.  Maybe all of college football is down and that's what he means.   

True, but the only reason so many teams are bowl eligible is because KU is so, so shitty this year. I don't think it is mathematically possible for 8 or 9 teams to be bowl eligible without KU going 0-9.

So, KU's shittiness does weaken the Big 12 - but the Big 12 is still the second strongest conference this year, by a wide margin.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Where did Ben come up with this depleted Big XiI talking point?

How strange...

Not really sure.  Last I saw, 8 of 10 Big 12 teams were bowl eligible with the 9th team 1 win away.  Maybe all of college football is down and that's what he means.   

True, but the only reason so many teams are bowl eligible is because KU is so, so shitty this year. I don't think it is mathematically possible for 8 or 9 teams to be bowl eligible without KU going 0-9.

So, KU's shittiness does weaken the Big 12 - but the Big 12 is still the second strongest conference this year, by a wide margin.

It is the strongest by a wide margin. Every objective means of measuring conference strength agrees with me.

[Cartierfor3]

The Sugar Bowl is in a worse stadium than the Orange Bowl, and I don't remember too many good games from that bowl recently, either.  Incredibly enough, you guys are still butthurt about the fact that KU won a BCS Bowl in 2008.  I love it. 


    

I often doubt if Beems actually watches college football.

Other than last year, the Sugar Bowl hasn't been competitive. 

Utah Alabama was a pretty damn good game IMO. 

[Kermit]

its kinda nice hearing a few tuck beakers defend there pile of crap football program, its a change from hearing them pretend like they don't give a crap because" ITS BASKETBALL SEASON"!

Credit where credit is due.  Their magical run in 07 did include wins over the top 3 teams in the south (OU, UT and Tech).  At least I think.  Someone told me that their opponents combined record that year was 76-88.  That can't be right.  Ours thus far this year is 74-54.  Something seems weird here.

[OregonSmock]

Here's a hint, fellas:  the more you talk about KU's 2008 Orange Bowl, the more apparent it is that long-term psychological damage has been inflicted on your collective psyche.  I love every minute of it.  Please continue.