Author Topic: Stops (Read 3798 times)

cas4ksu · « **on:** November 18, 2011, 05:09:42 AM »

Will all of them be pulled out this weekend at Texas? I can't imagine anything else happening between two fierce rivals.

wes mantooth · « **Reply #1 on:** November 18, 2011, 07:58:22 AM »

Got nothing else to save them for at this point. Dr. Scheme, please report to the operating room.

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2011, 08:40:39 AM »

Q? Its Texas do we really need to? A! No, no we do not. Take a kick back for a touchdown have Klein run all over the place badabing badaboom.

Mikeyis4dcats · « **Reply #3 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:54:40 AM »

I'd like to see Harper in the wildcat

kso_FAN · « **Reply #4 on:** November 18, 2011, 09:59:23 AM »

Quote from: Mikeyis4dcats on November 18, 2011, 09:54:40 AM

I'd like to see Harper in the wildcat

It is an interesting thought, but I doubt we see it now, especially without Lockett/BSmith. More likely to see Snyder throw Lamur/Tuggle out there in some some special package.

Its sort of like what I'd like to see; Pease in the regular offense.

If we haven't seen it by now, Snyder probably isn't going to throw it out there.

That said, we will likely see some sort of gadget/trick play in Austin. Snyder had the toss pass with Pease dialed up last week, there will be another this week I'm sure.

steve dave · « **Reply #5 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:02:48 AM »

fake punt

kso_FAN · « **Reply #6 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:09:01 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on November 18, 2011, 10:02:48 AM

fake punt

Could be, but its a lot harder to fake (or block) punts with all these wide split punt formations that seeminly everyone uses now. UT did block one on Missouri last week though.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #7 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:41:34 AM »

Yeah, we haven't even gone for a punt yet this year, have we?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #8 on:** November 18, 2011, 10:54:04 AM »

Quote from: SkinnyBenny on November 18, 2011, 10:41:34 AM

Yeah, we haven't even gone for a punt yet this year, have we?

Not really, but no one really goes after punts unless an opponent is pinned at their goalline. Wide split/spread punt formations have nearly eliminated the punt block (and in some ways fakes) from the game. But they are a good way to neutralize the return game.

The Big 12 numbers from the last 5 years:

Year   Ret.   Yards   Avg.   TD
2007   347   3469   10.00   10
2008   286   2976   10.41   13
2009   347   3531   10.18   9
2010   289   2389   8.27   6
2011   150   1204   8.03   2

Right now the punt coverage because of spread punt formations is controlling the return game, but like everything in football, return schemes will change and find a way to exploit it.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #9 on:** November 18, 2011, 11:28:45 AM »

Haven't seen a downturn in punt return stats from our wild wild cats this year.

Would love to see a _Fan comparo between old school punt formations/new school spread punt formations and the implications/effects of such.

michigancat · « **Reply #10 on:** November 18, 2011, 03:44:22 PM »

pretty sure RP figured out how to block a punt against a spread formation. I'm thinking MU at home.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #11 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:30:24 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on November 18, 2011, 03:44:22 PM

pretty sure RP figured out how to block a punt against a spread formation. I'm thinking MU at home.

Yeah it's still done, but not as often. I don't think people try to do it as much against spread formations. I don't have the numbers to back up my claim though, I certainly could be wrong.

kitten_mittons · « **Reply #12 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:37:48 PM »

I'm pretty sure we've had a punt blocked. Maybe just partially? Does that count? It seems like it would.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #13 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:55:50 PM »

KU partially blocked one of ourz.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #14 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:56:49 PM »

I did not mean to say punt blocks have disappeared from the game.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #15 on:** November 18, 2011, 04:59:55 PM »

BUT WHY DID YOU SAY PUNT BLOCKS HAVE DISAPPEARED FROM THE GAME?

steve dave · « **Reply #16 on:** November 18, 2011, 05:36:47 PM »

_FAN shown to be a lying liar once again. Sad...really.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #17 on:** November 18, 2011, 05:37:19 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on November 18, 2011, 05:36:47 PM

_FAN shown to be a lying liar once again. Sad...really.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #18 on:** November 18, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »

i'm not sure what or who to believe now.

SabiNation · « **Reply #19 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:09:11 PM »

I'm on _fan's side on this one. Even if only to ensure that he doesn't get all

and stop blessing us with incredible _FANalysis

to you _fan

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:37:14 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on November 18, 2011, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: steve dave on November 18, 2011, 05:36:47 PM
_FAN shown to be a lying liar once again. Sad...really.

and blaming your sons "science fair project" for not going to the game when we all know that you were out golfing again.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:49:17 PM »

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on November 18, 2011, 06:37:14 PM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on November 18, 2011, 05:37:19 PM
Quote from: steve dave on November 18, 2011, 05:36:47 PM
_FAN shown to be a lying liar once again. Sad...really.

and blaming your sons "science fair project" for not going to the game when we all know that you were out golfing again.

Dr Rick Daris · « **Reply #22 on:** November 18, 2011, 06:52:23 PM »

"hey guys. i'm _fan. i call my little kid out on a public message board for the whole world to see and lie about football related facts".

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #23 on:** November 19, 2011, 12:05:32 AM »

"Look at me. Punts are never blocked anymore. Except when they are. I NEVER SAID THEY WERE NEVER BLOCKED ANYMORE."

steve dave · « **Reply #24 on:** November 19, 2011, 12:43:05 AM »

Hey guys, I was just joking about _FAN. But seriously, we should save some of the stops for ISU. No, I was rough ridin' around again, we will beat their stupid asses by 70 without any stops. stupid tornados