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Belvis Noland · « **Reply #25 on:** November 16, 2011, 09:06:11 AM »

shitty non-con loss won't really affect NCAA placement. probably true.

But, what's the point? That we shouldn't be concerned about shitty non-con performances? Sure, there are teams that lost to bad teams early and turned out great. But, for a lot of teams, garbage non-con is a precursor for the rest of the season.

Should WVU be concerned? exhibition loss, kent state loss, 7pt win over Oral Roberts?

We may be fine. who knows. but, JYCs are giving us every reason to be concerned...

michigancat · « **Reply #26 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:28:22 AM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on November 16, 2011, 09:06:11 AM

shitty non-con loss won't really affect NCAA placement. probably true.

But, what's the point? That we shouldn't be concerned about shitty non-con performances? Sure, there are teams that lost to bad teams early and turned out great. But, for a lot of teams, garbage non-con is a precursor for the rest of the season.

Should WVU be concerned? exhibition loss, kent state loss, 7pt win over Oral Roberts?

We may be fine. who knows. but, JYCs are giving us every reason to be concerned...

It's one thing to be concerned about the strength of the team and a completely different thing to declare a *BCS* team out of the NCAA tournament in November.

pissclams · « **Reply #27 on:** November 16, 2011, 11:55:37 AM »

November 16, 2011: K-State will not be in the NCAA tournament.

boom, roasted.

Poster formerly known as jthutch · « **Reply #28 on:** November 17, 2011, 10:45:14 AM »

If there is anything I have learned from being a combo fan, it's that the first game/games won't determine the rest of the season.

michigancat · « **Reply #29 on:** November 17, 2011, 11:38:50 AM »

Quote from: pissclams on November 16, 2011, 11:55:37 AM

November 16, 2011: K-State will not be in the NCAA tournament.

boom, roasted.

If you thought that before the season, it makes a lot of sense. If you previously thought this was an NCAA team before the season and the last two games changed your mind...well, you're kind of stupid.

pissclams · « **Reply #30 on:** November 17, 2011, 11:41:02 AM »

wow, what a backtrack.

backtrack defined.

kitten_mittons · « **Reply #31 on:** November 17, 2011, 11:42:00 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on November 17, 2011, 11:38:50 AM

Quote from: pissclams on November 16, 2011, 11:55:37 AM
November 16, 2011: K-State will not be in the NCAA tournament.

boom, roasted.

If you thought that before the season, it makes a lot of sense. If you previously thought this was an NCAA team before the season and the last two games changed your mind...well, you're kind of stupid.

Yes, Kansas State plays horribly in the non-con. Usually because of Frank Martin's jedi substitution tricks. I thought this team would be a bubble team, and I still do.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #32 on:** November 17, 2011, 11:48:55 AM »

Is it possible that we'd be a better team in March if we didn't suck through November-December?

Also, isn't the mark of a good program establishing a threshold level of quality, instead of regressing and starting from square one every single year?

michigancat · « **Reply #33 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:05:16 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on November 17, 2011, 11:48:55 AM

Is it possible that we'd be a better team in March if we didn't suck through November-December?

It's also possible that we wouldn't be a better team in March.

Quote from: Belvis Noland on November 17, 2011, 11:48:55 AM

Also, isn't the mark of a good program establishing a threshold level of quality, instead of regressing and starting from square one every single year?

I think the mark of a good program is final conference finish combined with postseason performance. Looking pretty in November is just a "nice to have" kind of thing.

steve dave · « **Reply #34 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:08:19 PM »

phog.net is very mean when we aren't good in November. really gets our posters down.

michigancat · « **Reply #35 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:12:01 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on November 17, 2011, 12:08:19 PM

phog.net is very mean when we aren't good in November. really gets our posters down.

Yes, phog.net has a remarkable influence on our posters. Hopefully their UK performance will shut their jayhawk traps for a while.

pissclams · « **Reply #36 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:37:15 PM »

love the frank apoligists. absolutely beautiful work guys.

steve dave · « **Reply #37 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:39:47 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on November 17, 2011, 12:37:15 PM

love the frank apoligists. absolutely beautiful work guys.

well, speak of the devil, here's tomclams now!

bakerman · « **Reply #38 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:40:46 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on November 17, 2011, 12:37:15 PM

love the frank apoligists. absolutely beautiful work guys.

wait, 'clams, dax, and zacker are all the same person?

pissclams · « **Reply #39 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:43:48 PM »

everything frank does is the right thing!

pissclams · « **Reply #40 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:47:21 PM »

frank 4 pres

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #41 on:** November 17, 2011, 12:48:06 PM »

I like frank. I just don't like that we have to suck for the 1st half of every season. Part of being a fan is enjoyment from watching good basketball. At KSU, we get this enjoyment about 50% of the time. Why not 90% of the time?

michigancat · « **Reply #42 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:04:10 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on November 17, 2011, 12:48:06 PM

I like frank. I just don't like that we have to suck for the 1st half of every season. Part of being a fan is enjoyment from watching good basketball. At KSU, we get this enjoyment about 50% of the time. Why not 90% of the time?

KSU has lost 4 games in the last three seasons in November and December. One of those was to Duke and one was the CK/Pullen suspension game. I guess you're just looking for more style points?

pissclams · « **Reply #43 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:11:12 PM »

i am. why is that bad?

we've had this same discussion for the last 6 novembers.

michigancat · « **Reply #44 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:24:31 PM »

Quote from: pissclams on November 17, 2011, 01:11:12 PM

i am. why is that bad?

not bad, just irrelevant. Unless you're worried about phog.net being mean.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #45 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:30:44 PM »

Alotta teams struggle early. At least we haven't lost like others..WV, Pittsburgh, UCLA, etc.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #46 on:** November 17, 2011, 01:56:35 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on November 17, 2011, 01:04:10 PM

KSU has lost 4 games in the last three seasons in November and December. One of those was to Duke and one was the CK/Pullen suspension game. I guess you're just looking for more style points?

I'm not looking for style points. I'm looking for consistency.

We are a terribly inconsistent team. I wish we weren't. That's all.

I like Frank. I like the results in March. But, I'm a season ticket holder. Why the eff should I have to sit through 2 months of garbage basketball before our players "see the light" or "buy in"?

On the flip side, it is highly possible that our March performances are due to the adversity we experience in the non-con. Or maybe not. I dunno. I just know it's ugly.

steve dave · « **Reply #47 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:37:58 PM »

I bet if we'd blow out these loser teams phog.net would eat a lot of crow...A LOT.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #48 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:43:18 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on November 17, 2011, 02:37:58 PM

I bet if we'd blow out these loser teams phog.net would eat a lot of crow...A LOT.

Nice red herring.

Sue me. I pay money to be entertained. I don't find 15-point deficits to Charleston Southern entertaining. In fact, I find it boring.

I would much rather watch my millionaire coach, coach his rough ridin' players so that we win by 30 and the fans aren't literally sleeping in the stands.

bakerman · « **Reply #49 on:** November 17, 2011, 02:45:28 PM »

If you're sleeping in the stands during a close game, your not a fan.