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CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry) Denial
« on: November 14, 2011, 01:09:09 PM »
Many wonder why our (sometimes) annual football game with the University of Texas is affectionately called the Chisholm Trail Rivalry.  We call it a rivalry instead of a showdown or something like that both because it is more PC and also because we love to patronize UT fans.  Everyone knows a rivalry happens when both teams win once in a while, and UT has struggled mightily with the Wildcats of the Flint Hills.  Since I see no earlier post about this (not like this site is user friendly/searchable anyway) on the football board, let's get started. 

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Chisholm Trail was a trail used in the late 19th century to drive cattle overland from ranches in Texas to Kansas railheads. The portion of the trail marked by Jesse Chisholm went from his southern trading post near the Red River, to his northern trading post near Kansas City, Kansas. Texas ranchers using the Chisholm Trail started on that route from either the Rio Grande or San Antonio, Texas, and went to the railhead of the Kansas Pacific Railway in Abilene, Kansas, where the cattle would be sold and shipped eastward.

The trail is named for Jesse Chisholm who had built several trading posts in what is now western Oklahoma before the American Civil War. He died in 1868, too soon ever to drive cattle on the trail.

http://www.thechisholmtrail.com/map2.htm

To save you all some boring reads on Wikipedia and another website, www.thechisholmtrail.com, the bottom line is this:

Texans were too stupid to build railways to ship their longhorn cattle into markets where they could get more money per head, so they instead drove them all the way up to Abilene, KS, because the people there were smart enough to build railroads and ship cattle to better paying markets.  Originally they had driven cattle to Missouri, but Missourians banned cattle because they are stupid, too.  Ironically, the guy who built the stockyard in Abilene to house all of these cattle before shipping them to KC and St. Louis and Chicago was named McCoy.

Also, Texans being in denial about Kansas being better than them at everything actually can be traced back as recently as 1931:
In 1931, Geo. W. Saunders, then President of the Old Trail Drivers Assoc. and an authority on Texas livestock History wrote: "The famed Chisholm Trail, about which more has been written than any other Southwestern Trail, cannot be traced in Texas for the reason that it never existed in this State."

Apparently his body is at the municipal auditorium in San Antonio.  This makes me very torn about going to the Cotton Bowl or Alamo Bowl.  The Cotton Bowl would be great, but the Alamo would give me an excuse to saunter over to the municipal auditorium, located at 100 Auditorium Circle San Antonio,
TX 78205 210-207-8511 / 210-207-8500 / 877-504-8895 / Fax: 210-207-4263, and blame my releasing excrement on his grave and/or body on Irritable Bowel Syndrome in order to escape arrest. 

To sum it all up, the "Chisholm Trail Rivalry" or CTR is more than just a cute little name, it also is a constant reminder to all Texans that they were too stupid to figure out how to ship cattle and had to take their livestock up to Kansas because Kansans actually knew how to build railroads and profit from them. 

Also, if you would like to order some wonderful merchandise in preparation for Saturday's game, try this one out:
http://www.cafepress.com/chisholmtrail

Godspeed,

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2011, 01:12:52 PM »
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2011, 01:13:35 PM »
should have edited the wikipage to say something funny.

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 01:24:57 PM »
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 01:26:01 PM »
Nicely played. Always nice to have a reminder of how dumb TX and missouri are

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2011, 01:27:28 PM »
Disgustingly cute.  A must for gift exchanges with UT fans this holiday season.
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2011, 01:54:42 PM »
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2011, 02:06:49 PM »

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/100791-Texas-Open-9.5-V.-K-State

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2011, 02:17:34 PM »

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/100791-Texas-Open-9.5-V.-K-State

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2011, 03:46:06 PM »
The Godfather of all Texans who don't believe the Chisholm Trail ever went through TX and all those who purport "CTR Denial". 



Shall we piss on his grave in cursive "goEMAW.com"?  Can someone post a picture that makes it look like we did? :notgoodwithphotoshop:

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2011, 03:58:03 PM »
I guess, in a way, the Chisholm Trail is much like the Big 12.  Texas feeds Kansas with talent and we smartly make money with it by spreading it eastwards towards Virginia.  Sports is like life, just like my coach said...


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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2011, 04:00:20 PM »
eff texas but ill be damned if i want to see them leave the big 12.
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 04:24:19 PM »
The Godfather of all Texans who don't believe the Chisholm Trail ever went through TX and all those who purport "CTR Denial". 



Shall we piss on his grave in cursive "goEMAW.com"?  Can someone post a picture that makes it look like we did? :notgoodwithphotoshop:

 :crossfingers:



I know a goEMAWer who has experience soiling the misguided memorials that seem ever-present in Tejas
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2011, 04:39:05 PM »
Many wonder why our (sometimes) annual football game with the University of Texas is affectionately called the Chisholm Trail Rivalry.  We call it a rivalry instead of a showdown or something like that both because it is more PC and also because we love to patronize UT fans.  Everyone knows a rivalry happens when both teams win once in a while, and UT has struggled mightily with the Wildcats of the Flint Hills.  Since I see no earlier post about this (not like this site is user friendly/searchable anyway) on the football board, let's get started. 

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Chisholm Trail was a trail used in the late 19th century to drive cattle overland from ranches in Texas to Kansas railheads. The portion of the trail marked by Jesse Chisholm went from his southern trading post near the Red River, to his northern trading post near Kansas City, Kansas. Texas ranchers using the Chisholm Trail started on that route from either the Rio Grande or San Antonio, Texas, and went to the railhead of the Kansas Pacific Railway in Abilene, Kansas, where the cattle would be sold and shipped eastward.

The trail is named for Jesse Chisholm who had built several trading posts in what is now western Oklahoma before the American Civil War. He died in 1868, too soon ever to drive cattle on the trail.

http://www.thechisholmtrail.com/map2.htm

To save you all some boring reads on Wikipedia and another website, www.thechisholmtrail.com, the bottom line is this:

Texans were too stupid to build railways to ship their longhorn cattle into markets where they could get more money per head, so they instead drove them all the way up to Abilene, KS, because the people there were smart enough to build railroads and ship cattle to better paying markets.  Originally they had driven cattle to Missouri, but Missourians banned cattle because they are stupid, too.  Ironically, the guy who built the stockyard in Abilene to house all of these cattle before shipping them to KC and St. Louis and Chicago was named McCoy.

Also, Texans being in denial about Kansas being better than them at everything actually can be traced back as far as 1931:
In 1931, Geo. W. Saunders, then President of the Old Trail Drivers Assoc. and an authority on Texas livestock History wrote: "The famed Chisholm Trail, about which more has been written than any other Southwestern Trail, cannot be traced in Texas for the reason that it never existed in this State."

Apparently his body is at the municipal auditorium in San Antonio.  This makes me very torn about going to the Cotton Bowl or Alamo Bowl.  The Cotton Bowl would be great, but the Alamo would give me an excuse to saunter over to the municipal auditorium, located at 100 Auditorium Circle San Antonio,
TX 78205 210-207-8511 / 210-207-8500 / 877-504-8895 / Fax: 210-207-4263, and blame my releasing excrement on his grave and/or body on Irritable Bowel Syndrome in order to escape arrest. 

To sum it all up, the "Chisholm Trail Rivalry" or CTR is more than just a cute little name, it also is a constant reminder to all Texans that they were too stupid to figure out how to ship cattle and had to take their livestock up to Kansas because Kansans actually knew how to build railroads and profit from them. 

Also, if you would like to order some wonderful merchandise in preparation for Saturday's game, try this one out:
http://www.cafepress.com/chisholmtrail

Godspeed,

RightMeow



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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2011, 06:27:17 PM »
God's work you've done here RightMeow. Chisolm Trail denial is a discussion that cannot be brushed aside any longer. People like George W. Suanders need to be exposed for exactly who they are: stupid Texans.

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2011, 08:13:50 PM »
The Godfather of all Texans who don't believe the Chisholm Trail ever went through TX and all those who purport "CTR Denial". 



Shall we piss on his grave in cursive "goEMAW.com"?  Can someone post a picture that makes it look like we did? :notgoodwithphotoshop:

 :crossfingers:



I know a goEMAWer who has experience soiling the misguided memorials that seem ever-present in Tejas

MUST provide details or it never happened.
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2011, 11:18:31 PM »
We're getting uncomfortably close to this thing and I'm not sure we're angry enough. GBCK.

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2011, 11:20:08 PM »
We're getting uncomfortably close to this thing and I'm not sure we're angry enough. GBCK.

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2011, 11:51:06 PM »
Wow. That really pissed me off.  :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist:

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2012, 10:08:36 PM »
The Godfather of all Texans who don't believe the Chisholm Trail ever went through TX and all those who purport "CTR Denial". 



Shall we piss on his grave in cursive "goEMAW.com"?  Can someone post a picture that makes it look like we did? :notgoodwithphotoshop:

 :crossfingers:



I know a goEMAWer who has experience soiling the misguided memorials that seem ever-present in Tejas

My disdain for George W. Saunders continues to grow... What an bad person.

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2012, 01:52:19 PM »
I know a goEMAWer who has experience soiling the misguided memorials that seem ever-present in Tejas
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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2012, 02:29:59 PM »
CTR has been moved to the final week of the season and we also get a bye.  You're mumped now, Horns :emawkid:

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Re: CTR (Chisholm Trail Rivalry)
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2012, 02:33:03 PM »
America is just jumping on this rivalry like crazy.  It just raced past UT v. OU and is right on the bumper of OSU v. Michigan. 

When will it become the biggest rivalry in college sports?  My forecasts predict sometime in late 2012, but the metrics are changing pretty rapidly.