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There was a GPC thread about a farmer who beat his daughter's rapist to death. That's how this should have concluded.In hindsight.
Ashamed for Joe Paterno and Penn State’s leaders, but still proud of my schoolBy LaVar ArringtonThe Jerry Sandusky scandal rose to another level with the release of information in the Freeh Report on Thursday that Joe Paterno was part of the group that attempted to cover up what happened.I have been offering my opinion about this since the beginning and I won’t stop now. But I realize that no matter what I write I will offend someone. If I say anything positive about Penn State or Paterno, the public will condemn me, and Penn State will praise my efforts. If I condemn my alma mater, it will be the reverse.So what am I to do? Making it a point to be a voice during this horrible time hasn’t been easy, but it has been necessary and therapeutic. Figuring out how to prevent this from happening again is where my head is now.I can’t stress enough how much my heart goes out to the victims, named and unnamed. There almost certainly will be lawsuits, but I’m sure there’s no monetary value that can be placed on the devastation they suffered. The healing, restoration and well-being of the victims and their families continue to be the focus of my concern and prayers.Now how do we move on from here?I wish Paterno, former Penn State president Graham Spanier and others had better handled the situation when they first learned of it. Sure, public disclosure or firing Sandusky would have been embarrassing. The school would have taken a blow and the media would have teed off on what had been considered a squeaky clean school and football program, led by a man with a reputation for doing things the right way.There would have been civil suits and tons of money paid out to the victims. Maybe some recruits would have chosen other schools. Boosters might have stopped donating and reputations would have been affected. That’s not what happened. As a result of official decisions, children continued to be victimized.I can speak from the heart when I say nobody is more disappointed than Penn Staters about how this was handled and how it has made us look. It took wonderful people, year after year, to build the school’s reputation — not football players as much as students and professors.We are more than Paterno or any other single figure there. Our chant is “We are Penn State.” Not “he is” or “she is.” A big mistake would be making this all about loving or hating Paterno.When I was being recruited by Penn State, coaches made a point to stress the values symbolized by having no names on jerseys, plain uniforms and a humble, hardworking approach in all that they did. Strive to be better. Set a positive example. Create the standard. My dad, a soldier, raised us that way and I knew that Penn State was where I wanted to be.I believe that message is as clear now as ever and this will have to be the way the school’s reputation is rebuilt.As for the statue of Paterno: Leave it up or take it down — it really doesn’t matter that much, in my opinion. Paterno’s legacy has been tarnished and there’s a good chance it always will be.Both sides of this conflict would be better served turning their attention to fighting for better policies to protect kids. If you are a Penn State alum, student or employee, you are fighting to preserve the legacy that each and every one of us who attended the school stands for, which is excellence.We had nothing to do with this mess, but we accept the judgements about Paterno and whatever is required for the victims and their families to move forward.Our goal is to show the highest possible level of support and remorse for what happened to those kids and their families and, along the way, work to restore what we’ve all been a part of building all these years — Penn State’s reputation.I’m still Penn State proud. I will be accused of being biased, and and I wouldn’t disagree, but I’m not blinded by the pride I hold for the school I attended.In my heart I know that supporting the victims and my college is the right thing for me to do. It says in the Bible to let he with no faults cast the first stone.I’m comfortable knowing that too many great people have come from Penn State to ever think the actions of a few define all of us.
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 16, 2012, 12:06:04 PMQuote from: CNS Casey on July 16, 2012, 12:04:52 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 16, 2012, 12:01:50 PMQuote from: Limestone on July 16, 2012, 11:58:55 AMQuote from: CNS Casey on July 16, 2012, 11:48:47 AM and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.Not a shut out. I mean, he has a strong record at something like 14-1, but let's not get carried away.Does it really count as reporting when you report it to your "superior" and then strong arm them into doing nothing about it, though?I would be fine with a 15-0*
Quote from: CNS Casey on July 16, 2012, 12:04:52 PMQuote from: Nuts Kicked on July 16, 2012, 12:01:50 PMQuote from: Limestone on July 16, 2012, 11:58:55 AMQuote from: CNS Casey on July 16, 2012, 11:48:47 AM and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.Not a shut out. I mean, he has a strong record at something like 14-1, but let's not get carried away.Does it really count as reporting when you report it to your "superior" and then strong arm them into doing nothing about it, though?
Quote from: Nuts Kicked on July 16, 2012, 12:01:50 PMQuote from: Limestone on July 16, 2012, 11:58:55 AMQuote from: CNS Casey on July 16, 2012, 11:48:47 AM and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.Not a shut out. I mean, he has a strong record at something like 14-1, but let's not get carried away.
Quote from: Limestone on July 16, 2012, 11:58:55 AMQuote from: CNS Casey on July 16, 2012, 11:48:47 AM and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.It would be similar, but we rarely shut KU out.
Quote from: CNS Casey on July 16, 2012, 11:48:47 AM and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.that would look like the KSU v. ku football score.
and next to it show rapes vs rapes reported in a timely manner.
Fair enough. I mean, we wouldn't be putting together the final number for the mural. Surely that number will get more realistic btwn now and then.
NEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Welphttp://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.htmlQuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.
Quote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 08:59:05 AMWelphttp://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.htmlQuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.Twitter will be amazing.
"What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."
I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
Quote from: CNS Casey on July 17, 2012, 09:00:48 AMQuote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 08:59:05 AMWelphttp://www.startribune.com/sports/162711896.htmlQuoteNEW YORK - The president of the NCAA says he isn't ruling out the possibility of shutting down the Penn State football program in the wake of the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal.In a PBS interview Monday night, NCAA President Mark Emmert said he doesn't want to "take anything off the table" if the NCAA determines penalties against Penn State are warranted.Emmert said he's "never seen anything as egregious as this in terms of just overall conduct and behavior inside a university." He added, "What the appropriate penalties are, if there are determinations of violations, we'll have to decide."The last time the NCAA shut down a football program with the so-called "death penalty" was in the 1980s, when SMU was forced to drop the sport because of extra benefits violations.Twitter will be amazing.I'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing.
Quote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 09:02:05 AMI'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing. You'll have that pak head made by then, right?
Quote from: Trim on July 17, 2012, 09:14:24 AMQuote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 09:02:05 AMI'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing. You'll have that pak head made by then, right?It's getting made right now! Should have it by Saturday.
Quote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 09:26:57 AMQuote from: Trim on July 17, 2012, 09:14:24 AMQuote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 09:02:05 AMI'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing. You'll have that pak head made by then, right?It's getting made right now! Should have it by Saturday.Looking forward to monday's pic of you and the giant pak head combofanning in front of the Joe Pa statue.
Quote from: Trim on July 17, 2012, 09:32:11 AMQuote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 09:26:57 AMQuote from: Trim on July 17, 2012, 09:14:24 AMQuote from: EMAWgeddon on July 17, 2012, 09:02:05 AMI'm heading to Happy Valley this weekend. My Penn State trips always have the worst timing. You'll have that pak head made by then, right?It's getting made right now! Should have it by Saturday.Looking forward to monday's pic of you and the giant pak head combofanning in front of the Joe Pa statue.I'm going to wear that Penn State hat with the BJ while doing it.
If Pen State Football does fold, I wonder if they will put the football stadium up for auction.
Quote from: "storm"nut on July 17, 2012, 09:55:10 AMIf Pen State Football does fold, I wonder if they will put the football stadium up for auction. Speaking of the stadium, does anybody else find the name Beaver Stadium awesomely ironic given all the gay sex going on up there?