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« Reply #8225 on: June 26, 2024, 01:38:58 PM »
The problem with using the tailgate tent's list to determine HFA, like some on twitter think you should do, is that for the most part, using point spread doesn't favor the best teams very well. K-State is on that list because we are chronically underrated by Vegas, but schools like Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, and USC are always heavy favorites at home, and frankly they play a lot of schools that are significantly worse. It's tough to have a better result for +/- spread when K-State is always a single digit favorite, no matter who when we play, when those other teams are frequently a four touchdown favorite.

The list factors in performance vs spread at home vs away, though. It's not looking at how much we are beating the spread so much as how our performance vs the spread in home games compares to road games. So that would account for at most of that. I think it's possible that some coaches aren't good at preparing teams for road games and that probably affects the list to some degree.

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« Reply #8226 on: June 26, 2024, 01:45:42 PM »
The problem with using the tailgate tent's list to determine HFA, like some on twitter think you should do, is that for the most part, using point spread doesn't favor the best teams very well. K-State is on that list because we are chronically underrated by Vegas, but schools like Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, and USC are always heavy favorites at home, and frankly they play a lot of schools that are significantly worse. It's tough to have a better result for +/- spread when K-State is always a single digit favorite, no matter who when we play, when those other teams are frequently a four touchdown favorite.

The list factors in performance vs spread at home vs away, though. It's not looking at how much we are beating the spread so much as how our performance vs the spread in home games compares to road games. So that would account for at most of that. I think it's possible that some coaches aren't good at preparing teams for road games and that probably affects the list to some degree.
Sure but outperforming the spread home vs away shows which teams Vegas misevaluates, not necessarily home-field advantage.  The most obvious home-field advantages, Vegas is going to account for more accurately.  It is relevant information, to be sure, but still incomplete information.

I mostly think the goal is to sell video games, not necessarily accuracy. They're going to give a lot of the bigger fanbases better advantages because it's good for business.

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« Reply #8227 on: June 26, 2024, 02:07:53 PM »
Well, I don't think that Vegas is overvaluing Texas A&M so much that they should be no. 1 despite barely finishing above .500 at home in conference play most years.

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« Reply #8228 on: June 26, 2024, 08:02:22 PM »
I'm sure from the field you can see the fake army section and yell leaders grabbing their balls

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« Reply #8229 on: June 27, 2024, 03:30:24 PM »
The problem with using the tailgate tent's list to determine HFA, like some on twitter think you should do, is that for the most part, using point spread doesn't favor the best teams very well. K-State is on that list because we are chronically underrated by Vegas, but schools like Georgia, Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, and USC are always heavy favorites at home, and frankly they play a lot of schools that are significantly worse. It's tough to have a better result for +/- spread when K-State is always a single digit favorite, no matter who when we play, when those other teams are frequently a four touchdown favorite.

The list factors in performance vs spread at home vs away, though. It's not looking at how much we are beating the spread so much as how our performance vs the spread in home games compares to road games. So that would account for at most of that. I think it's possible that some coaches aren't good at preparing teams for road games and that probably affects the list to some degree.

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« Reply #8230 on: June 27, 2024, 03:33:19 PM »
I just know that I'll be pissed off if we ever schedule a road game at Western Kentucky.

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Re: Status/Twitter/Whatever steve dave Wants To Talk About Thread
« Reply #8233 on: September 19, 2024, 03:57:34 PM »
Chances it happens before KU's?

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« Reply #8234 on: September 19, 2024, 04:02:09 PM »
https://1350kman.com/2024/09/edge-of-the-future-a-look-at-planned-condos-hotel-restaurants-near-stadium/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFZYzRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSGH6nBc2sco3-ZJlPZLPCYxHsA4_aeRwxaIROQv9vpqdtpfjYMtT4fEJw_aem_CebDhO0FO8I2uSzNmcuKVA
Chances this sucker actually happens?

I know they're putting a lot of money in that corridor but I don't know what business the hotel expects to attract.  6 football sell out weekends and a bump in occupancy on weekend basketball games isn't enough to carry a hotel.  The Foundation and K-State could put people there but they'd be further from most of the campus and restaurants. 

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« Reply #8235 on: September 19, 2024, 04:05:49 PM »
NBAF right there too

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« Reply #8236 on: September 19, 2024, 05:34:05 PM »
NBAF right there too
True. I have no idea what kind of business travels in for that

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« Reply #8237 on: September 19, 2024, 06:09:10 PM »
Nerds, so maybe a Pokémon store or something
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Re: Status/Twitter/Whatever steve dave Wants To Talk About Thread
« Reply #8239 on: September 20, 2024, 08:46:58 PM »
https://twitter.com/TCUFootball/status/1837144695731834920
holy crap. 

but i tend to agree with people who are saying that a) being on the cw, which is a nationwide network without paywall, shouldn’t be viewed as a bad thing, and b) if anyone wanted to watch tcu, they’d be on a different outlet


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« Reply #8240 on: September 21, 2024, 04:38:05 PM »
https://twitter.com/TCUFootball/status/1837144695731834920
holy crap. 

but i tend to agree with people who are saying that a) being on the cw, which is a nationwide network without paywall, shouldn’t be viewed as a bad thing, and b) if anyone wanted to watch tcu, they’d be on a different outlet
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« Reply #8241 on: September 22, 2024, 12:06:01 PM »

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Re: Status/Twitter/Whatever steve dave Wants To Talk About Thread
« Reply #8243 on: October 10, 2024, 04:43:37 PM »
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.

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« Reply #8244 on: October 15, 2024, 08:49:50 AM »
Simulating use of a weapon is a specific unsportsmanlike penalty and point of emphasis. LSU being in that video so many times is crazy, they might have a culture issue. Jayce Brown did it in the pop tarts bowl, and that's the only time I've seen a K-State player do it, it wasn't a point of emphasis last year.
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« Reply #8245 on: October 15, 2024, 09:38:35 AM »
A coach doing it is odd.
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« Reply #8246 on: October 15, 2024, 09:41:15 AM »
are texas tech and oSu players exempt from this rule?

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« Reply #8247 on: October 15, 2024, 10:27:42 AM »
https://x.com/CollegeSportsO/status/1844355225458704760


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« Reply #8248 on: October 15, 2024, 07:54:41 PM »
are texas tech and oSu players exempt from this rule?

A pistol pete/raider red/Yosemite Sam celebration would be funny as hell

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« Reply #8249 on: October 15, 2024, 08:29:38 PM »
Someone should bring back the Chi Chi Rodriguez
If there was a gif of nicname thwarting the attempted-flag-taker and then gesturing him to suck it, followed by motioning for all of Hilton Shelter to boo him louder, it'd be better than that auburn gif.