Author Topic: KU's national rank in every defensive category covered by NCAA... (Read 4228 times)

The Manhatter · « **on:** October 19, 2011, 12:25:42 PM »

keep in mind this is a rank out of 120 teams...

Category - KU rank

rush defense - 116th
pass defense - 119th
total defense - 120th
scoring defense - 120th
passes intercepted - tied for 111th
pass efficiency defense - 119th
fumbles recovered - tied for 89th
turnovers gained - tied for 115th
tackles for loss - tied for 102nd
sacks by - tied for 105th
First Downs allowed - 118th
3rd down conversion pctg defense - 116th
4th down conversion pctg defense - tied 113th
red-zone efficiency defense - tied 111th

wes mantooth · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2011, 12:32:36 PM »

they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech

wetwillie · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2011, 12:34:49 PM »

Quote from: wes mantooth on October 19, 2011, 12:32:36 PM

they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech

Lets get this fraud for trying to pass off raw data without adjusting for SOS. I'm with you Wes.

wiley · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2011, 12:34:55 PM »

I'm assuming this includes the +3 TO they were against OU, i just saw that and OU still had 600+ yards of offense to KU's 250ish. that's just flat out gross.

pissclams · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2011, 12:39:48 PM »

sorry manhatter but there are some games where you just throw out the numbers and line up against each other. the dillon's is one of those.

Bookcat · « **Reply #5 on:** October 19, 2011, 12:57:07 PM »

Quote from: wes mantooth on October 19, 2011, 12:32:36 PM

they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech

why leave off the two shitty teams they played?

and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.

doom · « **Reply #6 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:01:23 PM »

Quote from: Bookcat on October 19, 2011, 12:57:07 PM

Quote from: wes mantooth on October 19, 2011, 12:32:36 PM
they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech

why leave off the two shitty teams they played? and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.

but these rankings are for ku's defense, so we are more concerned with gtech's offense, which is not pedestrian.

wes mantooth · « **Reply #7 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:02:45 PM »

Quote from: Bookcat on October 19, 2011, 12:57:07 PM

Quote from: wes mantooth on October 19, 2011, 12:32:36 PM
they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech

why leave off the two shitty teams they played? and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.

You're right, G Tech's pedestrian D is really skewing these defenses rankings for KU's defense.

Cire · « **Reply #8 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:03:47 PM »

Quote from: wes mantooth on October 19, 2011, 01:02:45 PM

Quote from: Bookcat on October 19, 2011, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: wes mantooth on October 19, 2011, 12:32:36 PM
they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech

why leave off the two shitty teams they played? and last I checked..GTech's D is pedestrian.

You're right, G Tech's pedestrian D is really skewing these defenses rankings for KU's defense.

lol

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #9 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:06:20 PM »

I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #10 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:09:56 PM »

Quote from: Emo EMAW on October 19, 2011, 01:06:20 PM

I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.

KU gives up 7.64 yards per play (#120 in FBS), more than .6 YPP more than #119.

KU gives up .66 points per play (#120 in FBS). The national average is .37 and the Cats give up .30.

Last year's terrible K-State defense gave up 6.4 YPP and .42 PPP.

Emo EMAW · « **Reply #11 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:12:22 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on October 19, 2011, 01:09:56 PM

Quote from: Emo EMAW on October 19, 2011, 01:06:20 PM
I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.

KU gives up 7.64 yards per play (#120 in FBS), more than .6 YPP more than #119.

KU gives up .66 points per play (#120 in FBS). The national average is .37 and the Cats give up .30.

Last year's terrible K-State defense gave up 6.4 YPP and .42 PPP.

Thanks _Fan!

SdK · « **Reply #12 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:14:07 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on October 19, 2011, 01:09:56 PM

Quote from: Emo EMAW on October 19, 2011, 01:06:20 PM
I want rough ridin' stats that are not cumulative. As in, total yardage bla bla bla, which doesn't mean crap. I want "per play" stats, which are more meaningful.

KU gives up 7.64 yards per play (#120 in FBS), more than .6 YPP more than #119.

KU gives up .66 points per play (#120 in FBS). The national average is .37 and the Cats give up .30.

Last year's terrible K-State defense gave up 6.4 YPP and .42 PPP.

That settles that....

The Manhatter · « **Reply #13 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:14:30 PM »

while it's obvious KU has played some great offensive teams it is rather apparent they don't put up the kinds of numbers they did on KU vs. everybody.

Ga Tech had 413 yards at NC State, 386 vs. Maryland, and 296 @ Virginia....not exactly murderer's row. Ga Tech's offense is solid but it isn't insane...it's ranking was built off the three horrible teams they played in the first 3 (incl KU)

OU managed 310 yards vs. Florida State

Okie Lite pulled Weeden and a number of other starters in the 1st half against KU "skewing" their stats. But OSU struggled to throw the ball vs. Texas (420 yards total) and struggled for a half against aTm before finally accumulating 480 yards. But they were held in the 30s scoring at both Texas schools.

Yep, they've faced some good offenses but defenses not as good as ours have put some limitations on those explosive offenses. KU, on the other hand, had 11 corpses on the field.

Cire · « **Reply #14 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:22:28 PM »

I guess 04 and 05 have just been burned into my memory of crap ku teams competing with us no matter what.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #15 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:27:03 PM »

Quote from: Cire on October 19, 2011, 01:22:28 PM

I guess 04 and 05 have just been burned into my memory of crap ku teams competing with us no matter what.

Those KU teams were not good, but both were much, much better than this one.

WillieWatanabe · « **Reply #16 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:28:46 PM »

oooo... what say you bigwillie20?

pike · « **Reply #17 on:** October 19, 2011, 01:28:58 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on October 19, 2011, 01:27:03 PM

Quote from: Cire on October 19, 2011, 01:22:28 PM
I guess 04 and 05 have just been burned into my memory of crap ku teams competing with us no matter what.

Those KU teams were not good, but both were much, much better than this one.

They had a CFL caliber running back

PowercatPat · « **Reply #18 on:** October 19, 2011, 03:04:12 PM »

Quote from: wes mantooth on October 19, 2011, 12:32:36 PM

they've also played OSU, OU, Texas Tech and Georgia Tech

They also allowed 42 points to NIU.

OregonSmock · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2011, 03:11:01 PM »

KU's defense made some significant improvements last week. The coaches simplified the play-calling, and the players responded to it. We'll see if that improvement carries over into this weekend.

Bqqkie Pimp · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2011, 03:19:10 PM »

Quote from: OregonHawk on October 19, 2011, 03:11:01 PM

KU's defense made some significant improvements last week. The coaches simplified the play-calling, and the players responded to it. We'll see if that improvement carries over into this weekend.

I, for one, was very impressed with our little brother's ability to "compete" with a disinterested OU squad in the first two stanzas... Unfortunately, Stoops put a foot up their collective asses at half and it wasn't pretty in the second half.

fatty fat fat · « **Reply #21 on:** October 19, 2011, 03:23:38 PM »

Quote from: OregonHawk on October 19, 2011, 03:11:01 PM

KU's defense made some significant improvements last week. The coaches simplified the play-calling, and the players responded to it. We'll see if that improvement carries over into this weekend.

the goal-line stand b4 halftime was pretty awesome. Reminded me of a certain brotherly kansas team.

pike · « **Reply #22 on:** October 19, 2011, 03:25:36 PM »

I feel like OU really shot themselves in the foot and still won by 30. Kicked a lot of field goals.

pissclams · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2011, 03:27:12 PM »

last week OU was looking ahead to the K-State game

chum1 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 19, 2011, 03:50:35 PM »

these numbers remind me of seeing ku player photos and thinking, "those dudes really don't look like football players."