Do I feel too confident?

[AbeFroman]

I'm concerned that our offense hasn't been forced to play from behind by more than 7 points..and if Tech gets a lead late...our slow motion offense is in real trouble.  

Behind by 9 late 4th quarter against Baylor.

Bookcat, Pick one:
[ ] You got told
[ ] You got rough ridin' told
[ ] Told and the Beautiful
[ ] Told Spice Deodorant
[X] Told Ballz

[420seriouscat69]

I'm concerned that our offense hasn't been forced to play from behind by more than 7 points..and if Tech gets a lead late...our slow motion offense is in real trouble. 

Behind by 9 late 4th quarter against Baylor.

Boom, roasted!

[pike]

Things I worry about in Lubbock:
History..how many facepalm   games have I watched on TV from Lubbock.
The dink and dunk jet offense... we struggle against this and I am surprised teams havent made more use of it against us and tech is quite good at it. They may try and go deep on us a few times too but it the slant bubble screen etc type of plays that has me concerned.
WHile they have been bad against the run they really havent played a team that is all run and so they will counter-scheme against the sceheme doctor for it. Its imperative in every game that our team be able to move the ball slowly on O. More than a couple 3 and outs and we lose this one.
Cockiness/KITN... we are KSU fans, when the team is playing well we always expect this, in fact I would soooo enjoy a 42-0 butt whoopin of Tech this game. The mU game was more enjoyable to watch than BU for sure so theres that.
All that said if we play our game make no mistakes control the game etc we can and should win in Lubbock. I beleive!!! GO CATS!!!

They're 115th against the run. We should be able to jam it down their throats.

[AbeFroman]

Guys there is no way 2011 Tech O > 2011 Baylor O, or even 2011 Mizzou O. We'll stop them enough times to win.

[kst8cat]

'Cats are like 3 - 10 against Tech all-time, and we have not won in Lubbock since 1997.  Just sayin'.

No.  Snyder beat Leach in 2000.  I would be surprised if that is the all time record as well.

[kso_FAN]

Key per play stats:

TT Off yards per play: 6.22 (#32)
TT Off points per play: .54 (#19)
TT Off TOs per possession: .007 (#1)
TT return game yards per return (KO and Punt): 22.69 (#5)

TT Def YPP: 5.97 (#100)
TT Def PPP: .39 (#69)
TT Def TO forced PP: ..031 (#33)
TT return def YPR: 17.26 (#49)

KSU Off YPP: 4.74 (#103)
KSU Off PPP: .38 (#73)
KSU Off TOPP: .020 (#33)
KSU Ret YPP: 17.43 (#64)

KSU Def YPP: 5.01 (#38)
KSU Def PPP: .28 (#19)
KSU Def TOFPP: .030 (#38)
KSU Ret Def YPP: 18.5 (#73)

Things that stand out:

Tech's offense is solid. While they may not be as explosive as Baylor's (or even Missouri's) they are still one of the better offenses in the nation. Top 20 in points per play and top 35 in yards per play are great, but combined with being #1 in turnovers per play makes it even tougher. K-State's defense matches up well in most of those areas, but for the 3rd week in a row they will be facing a tough task. Tech has one of the best return games (#5 in yards per return combining punt and KO) in the country as well.

Tech's defense provides a favorable match up for K-State, though K-State's offensive numbers are below average. K-State's ability to sustain drives without many big plays does skew those low numbers in both PPP and YPP, but on the road and in a hostile environment both could be tough to overcome. Plus K-State's return game has been average this season.

The numbers, even with Tech's defensive struggles would seem to give them the advantage. However, its hard to go against what the Cats have done, and in spite of those numbers I still think K-State is the better team and if they continue to play like they did the last 3 weeks they should still come away form Lubbock with a win. I see another close game down to the 4th quarter that comes down to K-State forcing Tech into redzone FGs instead of TDs.

Cats 34
Raiders 30

[BleedingPurple7]

Allan Evridge

[jmlynch1]

I'm concerned that our offense hasn't been forced to play from behind by more than 7 points..and if Tech gets a lead late...our slow motion offense is in real trouble.  

Behind by 9 late 4th quarter against Baylor.

Bookcat, Pick one:
[ ] You got told
[ ] You got rough ridin' told
[ ] Told and the Beautiful
[ ] Told Spice Deodorant
[X] Told Ballz

I would write in Told and Daring

[doom]

Key per play stats:

TT Off yards per play: 6.22 (#32)
TT Off points per play: .54 (#19)
TT Off TOs per possession: .007 (#1)
TT return game yards per return (KO and Punt): 22.69 (#5)

TT Def YPP: 5.97 (#100)
TT Def PPP: .39 (#69)
TT Def TO forced PP: ..031 (#33)
TT return def YPR: 17.26 (#49)

KSU Off YPP: 4.74 (#103)
KSU Off PPP: .38 (#73)
KSU Off TOPP: .020 (#33)
KSU Ret YPP: 17.43 (#64)

KSU Def YPP: 5.01 (#38)
KSU Def PPP: .28 (#19)
KSU Def TOFPP: .030 (#38)
KSU Ret Def YPP: 18.5 (#73)

Things that stand out:

Tech's offense is solid. While they may not be as explosive as Baylor's (or even Missouri's) they are still one of the better offenses in the nation. Top 20 in points per play and top 35 in yards per play are great, but combined with being #1 in turnovers per play makes it even tougher. K-State's defense matches up well in most of those areas, but for the 3rd week in a row they will be facing a tough task. Tech has one of the best return games (#5 in yards per return combining punt and KO) in the country as well.

Tech's defense provides a favorable match up for K-State, though K-State's offensive numbers are below average. K-State's ability to sustain drives without many big plays does skew those low numbers in both PPP and YPP, but on the road and in a hostile environment both could be tough to overcome. Plus K-State's return game has been average this season.

The numbers, even with Tech's defensive struggles would seem to give them the advantage. However, its hard to go against what the Cats have done, and in spite of those numbers I still think K-State is the better team and if they continue to play like they did the last 3 weeks they should still come away form Lubbock with a win. I see another close game down to the 4th quarter that comes down to K-State forcing Tech into redzone FGs instead of TDs.

Cats 34
Raiders 30

skipped straight to the bottom.

[deputy dawg]

'Cats are like 3 - 10 against Tech all-time, and we have not won in Lubbock since 1997.  Just sayin'.

No.  Snyder beat Leach in 2000.  I would be surprised if that is the all time record as well.

My bad.  We've lost 8 of 11 to Tech all time.  Been outscored 183-62 in last 3 games.  I read somewhere else we had not won in Lubbock since 1997, if we have since then, be sure to let me know because I sure can't remember.

2000 win was in Manhattan.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/preview?gameId=312882641
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores100/100295/100295413.htm

[puniraptor]

I predict ty getting a pick and throwing the  .

KATS-38
TTTU-30

Is this the prediction thread now?

[DQ12]

41-31

Go cats.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

I predict the  sign to be thrown up multiple times this game.

[hemmy]

38-21 pistols firing

[steve dave]

38-21 pistols firing

pistols firing, haha

 

[doom]

I predict the  sign to be thrown up multiple times this game.

I think this, but with the two hands about 2 ft apart and emaw crying. 

[J]

Key per play stats:

TT Off yards per play: 6.22 (#32)
TT Off points per play: .54 (#19)
TT Off TOs per possession: .007 (#1)
TT return game yards per return (KO and Punt): 22.69 (#5)

TT Def YPP: 5.97 (#100)
TT Def PPP: .39 (#69)
TT Def TO forced PP: ..031 (#33)
TT return def YPR: 17.26 (#49)

KSU Off YPP: 4.74 (#103)
KSU Off PPP: .38 (#73)
KSU Off TOPP: .020 (#33)
KSU Ret YPP: 17.43 (#64)

KSU Def YPP: 5.01 (#38)
KSU Def PPP: .28 (#19)
KSU Def TOFPP: .030 (#38)
KSU Ret Def YPP: 18.5 (#73)

Things that stand out:

Tech's offense is solid. While they may not be as explosive as Baylor's (or even Missouri's) they are still one of the better offenses in the nation. Top 20 in points per play and top 35 in yards per play are great, but combined with being #1 in turnovers per play makes it even tougher. K-State's defense matches up well in most of those areas, but for the 3rd week in a row they will be facing a tough task. Tech has one of the best return games (#5 in yards per return combining punt and KO) in the country as well.

Tech's defense provides a favorable match up for K-State, though K-State's offensive numbers are below average. K-State's ability to sustain drives without many big plays does skew those low numbers in both PPP and YPP, but on the road and in a hostile environment both could be tough to overcome. Plus K-State's return game has been average this season.

The numbers, even with Tech's defensive struggles would seem to give them the advantage. However, its hard to go against what the Cats have done, and in spite of those numbers I still think K-State is the better team and if they continue to play like they did the last 3 weeks they should still come away form Lubbock with a win. I see another close game down to the 4th quarter that comes down to K-State forcing Tech into redzone FGs instead of TDs.

Cats 34
Raiders 30

The problem with calling Tech's offense really good at this point is:

New Mexico: #119 Total Defense, # 119 Scoring Defense, #119 Pass Efficiency Defense
Nevada: #46 Total Defense, #86 Scoring Defense, #42 Pass Efficiency Defense
Kansas: #120 Total Defense, #120 Scoring Defense, #120 Pass Efficiency Defense
Texas A&M: #99 Total Defense, # 64 Scoring Defense, #84 Pass Efficiency Defense

Or, through their first 5 games they've faced opponents who defensively gave up on average 457.92 yds a game, that's roughly equivalent to facing the 110th ranked defense in the country on average.

In other words, I think Tech's offensive production is skewed by having played horrible defenses, and I am going to reserve my opinion on said offense until they play against a real defense, which will happen this Saturday.

I think we have a DAMN good chance to win this thing easily.

[fatty fat fat]

I think we win. This team reminds me of that legendary 2007 Rock Chalk Jayhawk squad. That team went on the road and easily beat mediocre teams.

Rock. Chalk. Jayhawk. Go KU. And KSTATE.

[kso_FAN]

The problem with calling Tech's offense really good at this point is:

New Mexico: #119 Total Defense, # 119 Scoring Defense, #119 Pass Efficiency Defense
Nevada: #46 Total Defense, #86 Scoring Defense, #42 Pass Efficiency Defense
Kansas: #120 Total Defense, #120 Scoring Defense, #120 Pass Efficiency Defense
Texas A&M: #99 Total Defense, # 64 Scoring Defense, #84 Pass Efficiency Defense

Or, through their first 5 games they've faced opponents who defensively gave up on average 457.92 yds a game, that's roughly equivalent to facing the 110th ranked defense in the country on average.

In other words, I think Tech's offensive production is skewed by having played horrible defenses, and I am going to reserve my opinion on said offense until they play against a real defense, which will happen this Saturday.

I think we have a DAMN good chance to win this thing easily.

Thanks for those numbers, I was going to look but was too lazy. I do agree that haven't faced much and that inflates their stats, but I still see an efficient offense that scores well and doesn't turn the ball over.

We'll have to do 2 of the following 3 (at least) for this to be an easy win:
1) Be +2 or better in TO margin.
2) Score a defensive or special teams TD.
3) Have many more big plays than usual on offense; something like 7-8 YPP overall and 9+ YPA attempt in the passing game.

[J]

The problem with calling Tech's offense really good at this point is:

New Mexico: #119 Total Defense, # 119 Scoring Defense, #119 Pass Efficiency Defense
Nevada: #46 Total Defense, #86 Scoring Defense, #42 Pass Efficiency Defense
Kansas: #120 Total Defense, #120 Scoring Defense, #120 Pass Efficiency Defense
Texas A&M: #99 Total Defense, # 64 Scoring Defense, #84 Pass Efficiency Defense

Or, through their first 5 games they've faced opponents who defensively gave up on average 457.92 yds a game, that's roughly equivalent to facing the 110th ranked defense in the country on average.

In other words, I think Tech's offensive production is skewed by having played horrible defenses, and I am going to reserve my opinion on said offense until they play against a real defense, which will happen this Saturday.

I think we have a DAMN good chance to win this thing easily.

Thanks for those numbers, I was going to look but was too lazy. I do agree that haven't faced much and that inflates their stats, but I still see an efficient offense that scores well and doesn't turn the ball over.

We'll have to do 2 of the following 3 (at least) for this to be an easy win:
1) Be +2 or better in TO margin.
2) Score a defensive or special teams TD.
3) Have many more big plays than usual on offense; something like 7-8 YPP overall and 9+ YPA attempt in the passing game.

Agree.

Also,

I think we win. This team reminds me of that legendary 2007 Rock Chalk Jayhawk squad. That team went on the road and easily beat mediocre teams.

Rock. Chalk. Jayhawk. Go KU. And KSTATE.

 

[pissclams]

The problem with calling Tech's offense really good at this point is:

New Mexico: #119 Total Defense, # 119 Scoring Defense, #119 Pass Efficiency Defense
Nevada: #46 Total Defense, #86 Scoring Defense, #42 Pass Efficiency Defense
Kansas: #120 Total Defense, #120 Scoring Defense, #120 Pass Efficiency Defense
Texas A&M: #99 Total Defense, # 64 Scoring Defense, #84 Pass Efficiency Defense

Or, through their first 5 games they've faced opponents who defensively gave up on average 457.92 yds a game, that's roughly equivalent to facing the 110th ranked defense in the country on average.

In other words, I think Tech's offensive production is skewed by having played horrible defenses, and I am going to reserve my opinion on said offense until they play against a real defense, which will happen this Saturday.

I think we have a DAMN good chance to win this thing easily.

Thanks for those numbers, I was going to look but was too lazy. I do agree that haven't faced much and that inflates their stats, but I still see an efficient offense that scores well and doesn't turn the ball over.

We'll have to do 2 of the following 3 (at least) for this to be an easy win:
1) Be +2 or better in TO margin.
2) Score a defensive or special teams TD.
3) Have many more big plays than usual on offense; something like 7-8 YPP overall and 9+ YPA attempt in the passing game.

when i run the numbers i see the same thing.  the biggest possibility is #3 on your list.  i predict a couple of long (40 yds+) open field touch down runs thus satisfying your #3. 

[kso_FAN]

when i run the numbers i see the same thing.  the biggest possibility is #3 on your list.  i predict a couple of long (40 yds+) open field touch down runs thus satisfying your #3. 

Did you use one of these?

[pissclams]

i use a commodore 64

[kostakio]

I think it's a tough game for us that favors Tech.   They are a good offensive team they will score points on us and likely not turn it over.  They are not good on defense but they do a pretty good job of creating turnovers.    This means we likely lose the turnover battle because both defenses are similar at creating turnovers but Tech takes care of the ball much better thne we do.  They will also likley have the advantage in special teams as well.  Combine those with being on the road and we probably lose a close game.  

If we want to win I think we need to force them into some uncharasitic turnovers and somehow manage to be even or better in special teams.   Neither of those are out of the question but not the most likely scenario IMO.   WE will move the ball on them but I just see our margin of error on offense as being pretty slim much slimmer then their's.    Penalties and other inevitable small mistakes are much more likley to equal missed scoring oppurtunities for us then they are for them and I think we have a hard time keeping pace unless we balance that with some takeaways.  

[puniraptor]

They lost their 114 ypg RB. We are going to eat them.