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Flagship sinking
« on: September 27, 2011, 02:03:07 PM »
It's a question of when not if.
From a Topeka Capital Journal story on regent school enrollments: Kansas State University had a 1.2 percent increase in students with a total of 23,863 while The University of Kansas saw a 3.1 decrease at the school's Lawrence campus for a total of 25,448 students.

From LJWorld:
Fall enrollment dropped 744 students, to 28,718, according to figures released by the Kansas Board of Regents on Tuesday.

The 2.5 percent drop continues a recent trend of enrollment drop-offs at the university, after enrollment increased to a record 30,102 in 2008.


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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2011, 02:04:31 PM »
Really not suprising that less and less people are wanting to earn a degree in being homeless.

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2011, 02:05:15 PM »
On the bright side for their fan base, JCCC enrollment up.

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2011, 02:07:17 PM »
They 28k figure includes the med school, right?  Does our number include the Salina campus?

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2011, 09:27:12 AM »
Let's not compare the med school to the Salina campus. If it comes to that, I'm willing to let them have another 2,000 students.

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2011, 10:24:54 AM »
Figures include med school.  Doesn't specify KSU Salina.  Here is the official PDF http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/Fall2011EnrollmentTable.pdf.

KU is more money and less awesome than KSU (as we know).

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2011, 10:40:03 AM »
"K-State students get the best undergraduate experience possible," said Pat Bosco, vice president for student life and dean of students. "Prospective students and their parents recognize this when it comes time to choose a college, and our increasing numbers show it."

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 10:45:24 AM »
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Just a question, wasn't there a downturn in the number of children born about 15-20 years or so ago?  Maybe enrollment is down because there are just less people coming out of high school than in previous years?

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 10:56:53 AM »
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Just a question, wasn't there a downturn in the number of children born about 15-20 years or so ago?  Maybe enrollment is down because there are just less people coming out of high school than in previous years?

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 11:00:14 AM »
t-shirt fan responses to me posting this on facebook:

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You can find a statistic to support anything.... Rock chalk :)

The second one kind of set me off. I mean, no crap sherlock. This statistic shows KU is losing enrollment and KSU is gaining. But she is the same girl who actually tried to do research to disprove the joke story of KU's mascot originally being the "swallowcocks"....

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 11:15:29 AM »
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Johnson County Community College 19,395 1,638 21,033

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 11:20:04 AM »
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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 11:21:15 AM »
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Johnson County Community College 19,395 1,638 21,033

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JCCC is basically High School part 2. I'm not surprised that many people are "enrolled" but rest assured about 40% of that are just spoiled kids taking one, maybe two, classes just so they can continue to live with the parents and buy drugs with their money.

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Re: Flagship sinking
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 11:24:18 AM »
It's a question of when not if.
From a Topeka Capital Journal story on regent school enrollments: Kansas State University had a 1.2 percent increase in students with a total of 23,863 while The University of Kansas saw a 3.1 decrease at the school's Lawrence campus for a total of 25,448 students.

From LJWorld:
Fall enrollment dropped 744 students, to 28,718, according to figures released by the Kansas Board of Regents on Tuesday.

The 2.5 percent drop continues a recent trend of enrollment drop-offs at the university, after enrollment increased to a record 30,102 in 2008.

I would not be surprised to see that gap continue to close.  Most land grant institutions put an emphasis on teaching skills that will help students acquire an actual trade (i.e. why we make more money than they do on average).  "Flagship" universities put an emphasis in the liberal arts, which gets you a job as a barista or fixing copy machines.

As the cost of higher education rises, students are going to be more likely to pursue undergraduate educations at schools where they will find more gainful employment opportunities.  And, in that sense, we are positioned much more strongly to do that.  For KU to make that philosophical shift, it would take them rethinking their way of doing things, which they absolutely will not do on a matter of principle.