Bryce

[jtksu]

Dominique Whaley.  Dude had 4 TDs against Tulsa. 

[chum1]

Here are the current yardage rankings for the top 10 rated RB recruits in Bryce's class.   4 of 10 suck.  The whole thing is a crapshoot.  Taking for granted that he would be good was a stupid thing for people to do - especially given that he is a retread.

6
13
24
27
43
59
112
145
>500 (not injured)
>500 (not injured)

[MixBerryCrunch]

Bryce will stay and by the end of the season he will be tearing it up. Don't ask me how I know, I just do.   

[felix rex]

I'm fine with setting aside some of the BBBS money to fund the abortion.

God, can you imagine Arthur as a big in a commercial always reminding his lil bros to "wrap up"? I mean, obviously he's not that great at it yet, but I bet he could grow into the role.

[Cire]

LHC Bill Snyder doesn't know how to teach kids to have a work ethic. 

[michigancat]

Here are the current yardage rankings for the top 10 rated RB recruits in Bryce's class.   4 of 10 suck.  The whole thing is a crapshoot.  Taking for granted that he would be good was a stupid thing for people to do - especially given that he is a retread.

6
13
24
27
43
59
112
145
>500 (not injured)
>500 (not injured)

Worst strawman ever.

[chum1]

Here are the current yardage rankings for the top 10 rated RB recruits in Bryce's class.   4 of 10 suck.  The whole thing is a crapshoot.  Taking for granted that he would be good was a stupid thing for people to do - especially given that he is a retread.

6
13
24
27
43
59
112
145
>500 (not injured)
>500 (not injured)

Worst strawman ever.

what is it you think i'm trying and failing to show?

[michigancat]

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

[KITNfury]

I'm going tuck on this one, I blame Bryce.

[PoetWarrior]

We're all different.

[pissclams]

hubert is the better back.  sorry if that hurts some of you star gazers.

b-money brown is nothing but an infection.  should be his nickname.  kick him off and ban him from the complex, also ban him from any contact with current players so the infection doesn't spread.

[J]

Mods, can we move this thread to "GPC thread about Pease", but change the name to "GPC thread about Bryce"?

[chum1]

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

not a strawman, then.   it seems to me that most people weren't expecting meh bryce any more than they were expecting crap bryce.  you're too wrapped up in you're anti snyder agenda.  wgaf about carries?  he's a bust.  that's all that matters.  but busts shouldn't be all that surprising.  they happen.

[michigancat]

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

not a strawman, then.   it seems to me that most people weren't expecting meh bryce any more than they were expecting crap bryce.  you're too wrapped up in you're anti snyder agenda.  wgaf about carries?  he's a bust.  that's all that matters.  but busts shouldn't be all that surprising.  they happen.

The problem with the "he's a bust" argument is he performed pretty well at UT as a true freshman. He would be a productive player, at worst, if given the touches.

[Harry Dunne]

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

not a strawman, then.   it seems to me that most people weren't expecting meh bryce any more than they were expecting crap bryce.  you're too wrapped up in you're anti snyder agenda.  wgaf about carries?  he's a bust.  that's all that matters.  but busts shouldn't be all that surprising.  they happen.

The problem with the "he's a bust" argument is he performed pretty well at UT as a true freshman. He would be a productive player, at worst, if given the touches.

[Acceleration Man]

Personally, I'm looking forward to a lot of  reactions while watching him next year.

[HeinBallz]

I'd be curious to see stats on how many #1 over all rated recruits turned out to be busts.   I mean, #1 overall RB is much different that #1 over all recruit. 

[chum1]

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

not a strawman, then.   it seems to me that most people weren't expecting meh bryce any more than they were expecting crap bryce.  you're too wrapped up in you're anti snyder agenda.  wgaf about carries?  he's a bust.  that's all that matters.  but busts shouldn't be all that surprising.  they happen.

The problem with the "he's a bust" argument is he performed pretty well at UT as a true freshman. He would be a productive player, at worst, if given the touches.

i think he may have been a bust at ut.  their fans were disappointed.  his stats were accumulated against crap competition.  he was unimpressive against good teams.  he seemed to get his touches mostly because you can't not give the ball to the #1 recruit in the nation fresh on campus.  given the talent they normally bring in, you have to wonder how much playing time he would have gotten had he stayed - especially given the liability of his attitide problem.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

What kind of legitimate top 10 recruit can't get carries by his third season in college?

[kso_FAN]

I still think there is plenty of time for Bryce to be a very good player at K-State. The reaction (in all directions) that he isn't some sort of instant success at K-State is a bit over the top. Sometimes even very talented players take a while to figure out what it takes to play at a high level and sometimes their coaches take a while to figure out what buttons to push to get the most out of them. There are so many presumptions being made in this thread its ridiculous.

[The Whale]

my god, it's like when BMW goes fishing.  the respects come out of the woodwork to take the bait

[michigancat]

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

not a strawman, then.   it seems to me that most people weren't expecting meh bryce any more than they were expecting crap bryce.  you're too wrapped up in you're anti snyder agenda.  wgaf about carries?  he's a bust.  that's all that matters.  but busts shouldn't be all that surprising.  they happen.

The problem with the "he's a bust" argument is he performed pretty well at UT as a true freshman. He would be a productive player, at worst, if given the touches.

i think he may have been a bust at ut.  their fans were disappointed.  his stats were accumulated against crap competition.  he was unimpressive against good teams.  he seemed to get his touches mostly because you can't not give the ball to the #1 recruit in the nation fresh on campus.  given the talent they normally bring in, you have to wonder how much playing time he would have gotten had he stayed - especially given the liability of his attitide problem.

He had one good game against WKU, and the rest of his yards were fairly balanced across all levels of competition.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/480207/year/2009/bryce-brown

Even removing the WKU game, the evidence is there that he would be a productive player for KSU, at worst.

I think you are trying to show that Bryce isn't an outlier, but he clearly is from that list. 8 of the 10 guys on the list have 25+ carries, and 6 of them have 50+ carries.   4 of 10 "suck"? That's just stupid. I'd be totally fine if he had 25 carries in 3 games. At least then we might have a realistic picture of how good he is. Judging from the list, Snyder could be getting a lot more production from him than he is.

What kind of legitimate top 10 recruit can't get carries by his third season in college?

The kind that play for LHC Bill Snyder.

[Trim]

There are so many presumptions being made in this thread its ridiculous.

Exactly.  Let's just resolve this baby situation and get Bryce back in the fold.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Personally, I'm looking forward to a lot of  reactions while watching him next year.

I am, too.

[chum1]

He had one good game against WKU, and the rest of his yards were fairly balanced across all levels of competition.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/gamelog/_/id/480207/year/2009/bryce-brown

Even removing the WKU game, the evidence is there that he would be a productive player for KSU, at worst.

half his yards are against wku, ohio, and memphis.  that's not fairly balanced.  top rated recruits who are meh players are busts.