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Re: Bryce
« Reply #225 on: September 27, 2011, 08:03:59 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.

Could be, hell, I don't  :dunno:

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« Reply #226 on: September 27, 2011, 08:08:43 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

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« Reply #227 on: September 27, 2011, 08:14:11 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #228 on: September 27, 2011, 08:14:51 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.

On that sack where Klein got hit and Bryce missed the block, I literally laughed out loud for a whole minute when they showed Bryce's block in slow motion.

Dude literally dove into the dirt.  He didn't even come close to hitting a guy at point blank range.

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #229 on: September 27, 2011, 08:18:11 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #230 on: September 27, 2011, 08:19:00 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.

I have a serious question.  What the eff are you talking about?

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #231 on: September 27, 2011, 08:21:03 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
So your saying Snyder should be helping them blow their noses and wiping their tears and otherwise help these babies grow up.  He shouldn't spend any time helping those who help themselves with hard work because they are not special.
Anyway you look at it, it's the coach fault for running off the special fuckups.  Maybe I should start wearing my boots, cause the crap getting thick about here.  :bang:
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Re: Bryce
« Reply #232 on: September 27, 2011, 08:21:03 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.


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Re: Bryce
« Reply #233 on: September 27, 2011, 08:21:50 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.

Give me a break with this entire post.  
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Re: Bryce
« Reply #234 on: September 27, 2011, 08:23:22 PM »
I'm fine with setting aside some of the BBBS money to fund the abortion.

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #235 on: September 27, 2011, 08:25:17 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.



It works. Kids come play for Snyder thinking he's not a child rapist, find out he's a child rapist, then want to leave (like BB). You're saying he should have known he was a child rapist. I'm saying there's no way to know for sure until you play for/with him. In that situation, I'm still mad that Snyder is a child rapist, and you're excusing it because "that's just who he is."

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #236 on: September 27, 2011, 08:30:36 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.



It works. Kids come play for Snyder thinking he's not a child rapist, find out he's a child rapist, then want to leave (like BB). You're saying he should have known he was a child rapist. I'm saying there's no way to know for sure until you play for/with him. In that situation, I'm still mad that Snyder is a child rapist, and you're excusing it because "that's just who he is."
So under your logic, Frank is a rough ridin' raping bastard for running good ole Wally off?  :ck:
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Re: Bryce
« Reply #237 on: September 27, 2011, 08:31:10 PM »
I gotta tell ya, I'm havin a hard time blaming Snyder here . . . I can be persuaded to think otherwise.




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« Reply #238 on: September 27, 2011, 08:31:24 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.



It works. Kids come play for Snyder thinking he's not a child rapist, find out he's a child rapist, then want to leave (like BB). You're saying he should have known he was a child rapist. I'm saying there's no way to know for sure until you play for/with him. In that situation, I'm still mad that Snyder is a child rapist, and you're excusing it because "that's just who he is."

You're trying to excuse someone of responsibility for their own decision making. Life is about decisions. He made one. Now he wants to run away from it. (We don't even actually know what the eff is going on so arguing this point further is futile.)

I would ask you at what part of a recruiting process do you think Snyder comes off as a laid back go with the flow show up and play who cares about practice coach? What has Snyder ever done that would lead someone to that conclusion? You watch one press conference and you know what kind of guy Snyder is. If players don't do their rough ridin' homework or talk to former players before they choose to play somewhere, that's on them for being an idiot.

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #239 on: September 27, 2011, 08:31:41 PM »
I gotta tell ya, I'm havin a hard time blaming Snyder here . . . I can be persuaded to think otherwise.




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« Reply #240 on: September 27, 2011, 08:32:19 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.



It works. Kids come play for Snyder thinking he's not a child rapist, find out he's a child rapist, then want to leave (like BB). You're saying he should have known he was a child rapist. I'm saying there's no way to know for sure until you play for/with him. In that situation, I'm still mad that Snyder is a child rapist, and you're excusing it because "that's just who he is."
So under your logic, Frank is a rough ridin' raping bastard for running good ole Wally off?  :ck:

No, I'm not taking a stance on if this is Snyder's fault or not. All I'm saying is that you can, contrary to SK's statement, blame someone for who they are.

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« Reply #241 on: September 27, 2011, 08:35:42 PM »
jfc 10 pages....someone sum this up for me plz tia

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« Reply #242 on: September 27, 2011, 08:36:01 PM »
I gotta tell ya, I'm havin a hard time blaming Snyder here . . . I can be persuaded to think otherwise.





I'm inclined to agree with you on BB. My counterpoint was mainly that Snyds has had several talents come through the system that magically had issues the staff in no way knew about before.
I don't think Snyder is a terrible coach (in season). I think he has trouble reaching and motivating players that are incredibly talented and because of that don't have what he deems a proper work ethic.

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« Reply #243 on: September 27, 2011, 08:38:40 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.

Why should a lazy nut case get any props in public? We have no idea what's going on behind closed doors, honestly.

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« Reply #244 on: September 27, 2011, 08:39:06 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.



It works. Kids come play for Snyder thinking he's not a child rapist, find out he's a child rapist, then want to leave (like BB). You're saying he should have known he was a child rapist. I'm saying there's no way to know for sure until you play for/with him. In that situation, I'm still mad that Snyder is a child rapist, and you're excusing it because "that's just who he is."
So under your logic, Frank is a rough ridin' raping bastard for running good ole Wally off?  :ck:

No, I'm not taking a stance on if this is Snyder's fault or not. All I'm saying is that you can, contrary to SK's statement, blame someone for who they are.

I'll explain further in case it is necessary. Snyder is going along being Snyder. Player comes to play for Snyder because he wants to. Player doesn't do what Snyder expects of him. Fans get mad at Snyder for being Snyder instead of the player who agreed to come and play for him. Bryce made a decision to play under Snyder. Its not like he had no other choice.

I'm not saying Snyder always makes the best decisions or whatever. I'm not even saying you have to accept Snyder for who he is. I'm not saying anything except that Bryce and players like Bryce CHOOSE to come here with Snyder as their coach. People make decisions. I don't understand the need to give the Bryce's scapegoats. If you want to hate on Snyder, this is not your best avenue or even one that makes sense is my whole point. If you want Snyder gone, great, voice that opinion. Snyder coaching players that chose to play for him is not the place for that.

Yes of course you can blame someone for who they are. But you can't excuse someone else's shitty decision making because of someone else "being who they are." I guess you didn't get that that was the whole point of my original post. Hopefully now you do.

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #245 on: September 27, 2011, 08:43:54 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.



It works. Kids come play for Snyder thinking he's not a child rapist, find out he's a child rapist, then want to leave (like BB). You're saying he should have known he was a child rapist. I'm saying there's no way to know for sure until you play for/with him. In that situation, I'm still mad that Snyder is a child rapist, and you're excusing it because "that's just who he is."

You're trying to excuse someone of responsibility for their own decision making. Life is about decisions. He made one. Now he wants to run away from it. (We don't even actually know what the eff is going on so arguing this point further is futile.)

I would ask you at what part of a recruiting process do you think Snyder comes off as a laid back go with the flow show up and play who cares about practice coach? What has Snyder ever done that would lead someone to that conclusion? You watch one press conference and you know what kind of guy Snyder is. If players don't do their rough ridin' homework or talk to former players before they choose to play somewhere, that's on them for being an idiot.
Seems to me, that if your playing for KATZ you better give it your all or go home.  That what I take from Snyder speak.  I agree completely with SK on this.  :cheers:
Hot time in Kat town tonight.

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« Reply #246 on: September 27, 2011, 08:44:49 PM »
I'm fine with setting aside some of the BBBS money to fund the abortion.

Agreed, if there were more forward thinkers like you maybe we wouldnt even need BBBS?  :dunno:

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« Reply #247 on: September 27, 2011, 08:46:32 PM »
I don't know, I think the kid has some real issues and there isn't a whole lot that can be done . . . it's pretty clear Snyder is gettiing to be pretty tight with Arthur, because he's throwing Arthur verbal bouquets not heard since Darren Sproles was around, same with Tre Walker.




Counterpoint:

There are some incredibly talented footballers out there that don't have to work very hard (if at all) to be better than the like of John Hubert. LHC Bill Snyder is really rough ridin' bad about coaching those guys. Guys with the talent and work ethic (Sproles, AB) get the verbal bouquets. While the BBs get "put in their place" like it's 1950 still.
As it should be  :cyclist:

Do you really think Snyder comes off as a guy that isn't stuck in the 50s as you claim? Do you really think players are lead to believe he is different than who he is? I'm not basing this on anything that I know/have heard, but I would assume that it's pretty clear what kind of guy Snyder is and players choose to come under those circumstances. I don't think you can get mad at a guy who a lot claim is clearly old fashioned for being old fashioned. Bryce and players like him that have chosen to come here have chosen to come here. The fault lies with them.

I'm not a Snyder apologist, but logic clearly dictates what I said above. You can't blame someone for being who they are. Snyder is who he is. People choose to come to KSU to play under Snyder. Then people get mad at Snyder for not treating certain players the way certain people feel they should be treated. Does this really make sense to some of you?

So, serial killers, terrorists, child rapists, etc. You can't blame them? If what you're doing is wrong it's wrong. Just because it's part of your personality doesn't excuse it.

Your analogy doesn't fit. Sending your child to play with the child rapist would fit better. Yes, you can blame people for sending their kids to play with a child rapist.



It works. Kids come play for Snyder thinking he's not a child rapist, find out he's a child rapist, then want to leave (like BB). You're saying he should have known he was a child rapist. I'm saying there's no way to know for sure until you play for/with him. In that situation, I'm still mad that Snyder is a child rapist, and you're excusing it because "that's just who he is."
So under your logic, Frank is a rough ridin' raping bastard for running good ole Wally off?  :ck:

No, I'm not taking a stance on if this is Snyder's fault or not. All I'm saying is that you can, contrary to SK's statement, blame someone for who they are.

I'll explain further in case it is necessary. Snyder is going along being Snyder. Player comes to play for Snyder because he wants to. Player doesn't do what Snyder expects of him. Fans get mad at Snyder for being Snyder instead of the player who agreed to come and play for him. Bryce made a decision to play under Snyder. Its not like he had no other choice.

I'm not saying Snyder always makes the best decisions or whatever. I'm not even saying you have to accept Snyder for who he is. I'm not saying anything except that Bryce and players like Bryce CHOOSE to come here with Snyder as their coach. People make decisions. I don't understand the need to give the Bryce's scapegoats. If you want to hate on Snyder, this is not your best avenue or even one that makes sense is my whole point. If you want Snyder gone, great, voice that opinion. Snyder coaching players that chose to play for him is not the place for that.

Yes of course you can blame someone for who they are. But you can't excuse someone else's shitty decision making because of someone else "being who they are." I guess you didn't get that that was the whole point of my original post. Hopefully now you do.

There's no way you can think that a recruit has a clear picture of who Snyder is based on their time spent with him during recruitment. Nor can you believe that Bryce came here based on his own accord.

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Re: Bryce
« Reply #248 on: September 27, 2011, 08:48:50 PM »
so did bryce knock up his Tennessee girlfriend? I refuse to read all of this

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« Reply #249 on: September 27, 2011, 08:50:02 PM »
I'm fine with setting aside some of the BBBS money to fund the abortion.

Stupid ass posts like this are why I would never donate to your BFKS.    :flush: