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[mcmwcat]

confirmed.  Jayhawks hate the state of kansas.  that's ok jayhawks.  i still think you are neat. 

[chum1]

the kansas state university   

[Panjandrum]

whats even better is that Beems has no concept of what kind of alumni base Notre Dame has.  No concept of what kind of political and social power they have. 

I was at a luncheon a week ago where Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint, was the keynote.  Anyway, he's a ND fan who got his undergrad there.

[sonofdaxjones]

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Re: Stuff is about to get serious - OU Board of Regents Agenda

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I am confident of one thing:  If the Gov and those with K-State interests have any ability to f*#k this up, they will, and they will take both schools down in the long run.

Forcing both of us to the Big East will only cause this issue to arise again within a year or two when the Big East inevitably dissolves.  By that time the major players will have been settled and KU will be perceived as forever tied to little brother.  THAT will screw KU and K-State will be left in the lurch as they should have been from the beginning.

So, in an attempt to put K-State in a place they don't belong, they will drag KU down to their level and kill both of us.  Kansas politics at its best.

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I am confident of one thing:  If the Gov and those with K-State interests have any ability to f*#k this up, they will, and they will take both schools down in the long run.

Forcing both of us to the Big East will only cause this issue to arise again within a year or two when the Big East inevitably dissolves.  By that time the major players will have been settled and KU will be perceived as forever tied to little brother.  THAT will screw KU and K-State will be left in the lurch as they should have been from the beginning.

So, in an attempt to put K-State in a place they don't belong, they will drag KU down to their level and kill both of us.  Kansas politics at its best.

this also just happens to be the plot of the next James Bond movie.

[sonofdaxjones]

I'll only see it if there's lethal ice bullets involved.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think that KU really doesn't want to go to the Big East because then they would have to admit that they have the worst football team in that conference, too.

[michigancat]

So, in an attempt to put K-State in a place they don't belong, they will drag KU down to their level and kill both of us.

I love the crap like this. Especially when we would clearly be their closest peer in whatever league we end up in.

[Dugout DickStone]

it's losing it's humor and starting to hurt.  these ku fans make me think that they actually hate the state of Kansas.  hey, Jayhawks, what's the matter with Kansas?

What a lot of KSU fans miss in this discussion is that ku fans are using this as part of their longer-term agenda of eliminating K-State from the state of Kansas altogether.  Their argument is that Kansas cannot support two large universities, and that all resources should be directed to ku.  This would give them a lot more funding, and a lot less in-state embarrassment that comes with losing to K-State in collegiate athletics.  What those fools don't seem to comprehend is the very different academic missions of the two schools.  As a land grant university, K-State will promote agricultural education programs, as well as other technical degree programs not found widely in other institutions (dietetics, dairy science, evapo-transpiration studies).  These are unique, and not widely taught, and make K-State MORE, not less valuable as an educational institution in the state of Kansas.  ku is a more traditional university with a bias towards liberal arts and other educational missions found in every state in the country.  In other words, K-State brings a lot to the table in producing better farmers, engineers, dieticians, etc. that ku simply can't match.  As for ku's academic mission, apart from their med school, how many more insurance salesman and retail clerks does the state of Kansas actually need?

That sounds so goddam elite I had to bold it

[deputy dawg]

it's losing it's humor and starting to hurt.  these ku fans make me think that they actually hate the state of Kansas.  hey, Jayhawks, what's the matter with Kansas?

What a lot of KSU fans miss in this discussion is that ku fans are using this as part of their longer-term agenda of eliminating K-State from the state of Kansas altogether.  Their argument is that Kansas cannot support two large universities, and that all resources should be directed to ku.  This would give them a lot more funding, and a lot less in-state embarrassment that comes with losing to K-State in collegiate athletics.  What those fools don't seem to comprehend is the very different academic missions of the two schools.  As a land grant university, K-State will promote agricultural education programs, as well as other technical degree programs not found widely in other institutions (dietetics, dairy science, evapo-transpiration studies).  These are unique, and not widely taught, and make K-State MORE, not less valuable as an educational institution in the state of Kansas.  ku is a more traditional university with a bias towards liberal arts and other educational missions found in every state in the country.  In other words, K-State brings a lot to the table in producing better farmers, engineers, dieticians, etc. that ku simply can't match.  As for ku's academic mission, apart from their med school, how many more insurance salesman and retail clerks does the state of Kansas actually need?

That sounds so goddam elite I had to bold it

K-State is the worldwide leading academic institution on the study of evaporation and transpiration water transport in plants.  May not sound important, but since agricultural irrigation is the single largest consumer of water in the world, this field of research is critical in helping resolve world water crises.

Surprised that more people don't understand just how generic ku is in terms of academic studies.

[Dugout DickStone]

it's losing it's humor and starting to hurt.  these ku fans make me think that they actually hate the state of Kansas.  hey, Jayhawks, what's the matter with Kansas?

What a lot of KSU fans miss in this discussion is that ku fans are using this as part of their longer-term agenda of eliminating K-State from the state of Kansas altogether.  Their argument is that Kansas cannot support two large universities, and that all resources should be directed to ku.  This would give them a lot more funding, and a lot less in-state embarrassment that comes with losing to K-State in collegiate athletics.  What those fools don't seem to comprehend is the very different academic missions of the two schools.  As a land grant university, K-State will promote agricultural education programs, as well as other technical degree programs not found widely in other institutions (dietetics, dairy science, evapo-transpiration studies).  These are unique, and not widely taught, and make K-State MORE, not less valuable as an educational institution in the state of Kansas.  ku is a more traditional university with a bias towards liberal arts and other educational missions found in every state in the country.  In other words, K-State brings a lot to the table in producing better farmers, engineers, dieticians, etc. that ku simply can't match.  As for ku's academic mission, apart from their med school, how many more insurance salesman and retail clerks does the state of Kansas actually need?

That sounds so goddam elite I had to bold it

K-State is the worldwide leading academic institution on the study of evaporation and transpiration water transport in plants.  May not sound important, but since agricultural irrigation is the single largest consumer of water in the world, this field of research is critical in helping resolve world water crises.

Surprised that more people don't understand just how generic ku is in terms of academic studies.

I was not making fun.  It is elite as crap.

Lots of people know ku churns out worthless marketing or business degrees by the thousands.

[sonofdaxjones]

Really poor students of history in ku bandwagonville.

-Ahearn Fieldhouse . . . was the reason there's an Allen Fieldhouse. 

-Vanier Football Complex . . . is the reason there's a Kivisto/Anderson Football Building.

-K-State doing something in football . . . is pretty much the ONLY reason ku even hinted at giving an eff about Football.

My gawd, K-State has been the inspiration for damn near everything that ku athletics has . . . they didn't wake up one day and say, "dang, let's copy little crackerbox Brewer Fieldhouse at MU".

[pike]

it's losing it's humor and starting to hurt.  these ku fans make me think that they actually hate the state of Kansas.  hey, Jayhawks, what's the matter with Kansas?

What a lot of KSU fans miss in this discussion is that ku fans are using this as part of their longer-term agenda of eliminating K-State from the state of Kansas altogether.  Their argument is that Kansas cannot support two large universities, and that all resources should be directed to ku.  This would give them a lot more funding, and a lot less in-state embarrassment that comes with losing to K-State in collegiate athletics.  What those fools don't seem to comprehend is the very different academic missions of the two schools.  As a land grant university, K-State will promote agricultural education programs, as well as other technical degree programs not found widely in other institutions (dietetics, dairy science, evapo-transpiration studies).  These are unique, and not widely taught, and make K-State MORE, not less valuable as an educational institution in the state of Kansas.  ku is a more traditional university with a bias towards liberal arts and other educational missions found in every state in the country.  In other words, K-State brings a lot to the table in producing better farmers, engineers, dieticians, etc. that ku simply can't match.  As for ku's academic mission, apart from their med school, how many more insurance salesman and retail clerks does the state of Kansas actually need?

That sounds so goddam elite I had to bold it

K-State is the worldwide leading academic institution on the study of evaporation and transpiration water transport in plants.  May not sound important, but since agricultural irrigation is the single largest consumer of water in the world, this field of research is critical in helping resolve world water crises.

Surprised that more people don't understand just how generic ku is in terms of academic studies.

grain science, food science, etc

[kougar24]

Grain science grads pretty much name their price upon entering the workforce.

[chum1]

this thread went from ku's butthurt to butthurt about ku real fast

[theKSU]

A couple gems from the KC Star:

OU is a great program all around. No issue with the people from Oklahoma either. If OU wants out then I hope they do the classy thing and make the move as quick and as painless as possible. So that way KU can make its move. For all you haters- I have it on good word that KU is not going to sit idly by and go down with a sinking ship. We have the endowment, the AAU accrediatation, a resurgent football program, and a powerhouse basketball program. In short, we have the golden ticket. I'm fine with the PAC, Big Ten, or Big East. I still stand by my previous statement that we also have the stones to be an independent in basketball with no conference affiliation. I believe if push comes to shove that we can do this and still be a member of a lesser conference in football. I also don't buy the argument that we are inseperably linked to K-State, nor that we have any need for Missouri. Happy Friday~

Listen here folks, the B12 is a dead dog. Ol' Yeller got the rabbis and done got shot by Opie. Let's just let our bad breathed, bucked tooth Texas and Oklahoma cousins go slobber on each other somewhere else. Might be good for them to go hangout with the P12 hippies and get some culture under their belts.

KU and KState will land in a respectable conference, even if it isn't BCS. They'll even have a chance to work themselves back to the BCS over the next ten to twenty years.

MIZZOU will be picked up immediately by a top conference, so maybe they can put a good word in for the others looking for homes.

[ArchE_Cat]

what I find really refreshing is the all the "purple helicopter" conspiracy theorists over on the phog. the governor of Kansas is K-Stater and is out to get them. their AD is a K-Stater and may have feelings for KSU. and, the KS BOR is out to get them.

it's crazy. they're dripping wet with their elite-ness yet can't rise above the purple cloud over their head.  

[bakerman]

Grain science grads pretty much name their price upon entering the workforce.

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Independent in basketball??  Now that's funny.

[Cartierfor3]

Kietzman update courtesy of phog:

I know, no one likes these topics, but it's media figures like this that like to stir the pot and another instance of a KSU fan wanting to drag KU down with it.

Our favorite "broadcast journalist" at it again saying its the responsibility of the governor and the Kansas BoR to make sure KU and KSU stay together.  No reason to split up the schools when they can both move to a BCS conference in the Big East even if KU gets an ACC or PAC offer.

Also said most people west of Topeka only care about the KU-KSU rivalry and they can't break it up.

 

sucks that ku doesn't have the ability to shake off the BITB shackles.  i mean, he is so powerful he can hold down entire universities all by himself. 

[mcmwcat]

this thread went from ku's butthurt to butthurt about ku real fast

my admission of butthurt comes only from the realization that Jayhawks hate the state of Kansas with what is turning into a passion.

[babytears]

You can say a lot about this Dax guy (crazy, bitter, weird, old, creepy, not dr. feelgood, creepy), but that son of a bitch loves his school.  He ain't gonna let KSU go down without a fight!!  

[pike]

I think KU fans want to physically move their university to the west coast. 

They can only live vicariously through Stanford for so long

[sonofdaxjones]

Exposing the absurd is what I enjoy tears.

[OregonSmock]

If only there were some numbers to back up my Notre Dame comment...


CANDIDATES    TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE
     
Texas    $101,369,004
Rutgers    WITH NYC    $67,798,609
Nebraska    $54,487,990
Maryland    $50,818,889
Boston College    $48,382,692
Notre Dame    $47,629,255
Kansas    $46,320,092
Missouri    $45,901,459
Syracuse    $43,504,813
Connecticut    $38,080,271
Pittsburgh    $34,365,175
Iowa State    $31,831,077
     
Syracuse  WITH NYC    $65,874,573