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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #175 on: September 13, 2011, 05:47:08 PM »
Ben is raiding his stash of "Awesome Links about KU".

Newsburglar list from 2009.....Forbes article from March 2010.  Got anything recent?  Got anything from a site not called "Newsburglar"??   How in the eff did you even find that site?       :lol:

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« Reply #176 on: September 13, 2011, 05:48:56 PM »
Ben is raiding his stash of "Awesome Links about KU".

Newsburglar list from 2009.....Forbes article from March 2010.  Got anything recent?  Got anything from a site not called "Newsburglar"??   How in the eff did you even find that site?       :lol:

If ksufans' insider had been called Newsburglar instead of Newshound, I think they'd have made it.

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« Reply #177 on: September 13, 2011, 05:50:53 PM »
It's about TV revenue that you bring to your conference, not to the NCAA.  Which means it is all about football.

Why is that such a difficult concept for you Hawks to grasp?

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« Reply #178 on: September 13, 2011, 05:53:44 PM »
According to the NCAA financial report, in Academic Year 1010 ku needed every dime of that $3.5 million in direct instituional support and student fees, otherwise they would have finished over $2 million in the red.


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Net Profits by Athletic Department, 2009-2010
Texas: $29,603,034
Kansas: $11,687,378
Kansas State: $11,099,094
Oklahoma: $10,121,904
Oklahoma State: $5,402,887
Nebraska: $5,029,604
Texas Tech: $4,898,394
Texas A & M: $2,675,650
Missouri: $2,505,575
Colorado: $930,604
Iowa State: $215,540
Baylor: $0


Here are the top revenue generating programs from 2005-06 through 2009-2010:


Institution Name    Grand Total Revenue    Grand Total Expenses    Profit

Texas    $605,108,282    $500,783,830    $104,324,452
Ohio State    $575,074,569    $516,982,310    $58,092,259
Florida    $521,026,679    $475,216,193    $45,810,486
Michigan    $475,418,749    $376,093,582    $99,325,167
Alabama    $472,696,121    $374,990,279    $97,705,842
Tennessee    $447,299,149    $435,339,648    $11,959,501
Penn State    $441,004,474    $378,106,020    $62,898,454
Wisconsin    $438,714,947    $413,421,089    $25,293,858
Louisiana State    $435,601,796    $407,465,214    $28,136,582
Auburn    $418,904,026    $376,841,279    $42,062,747
Notre Dame    $417,065,007    $313,623,490    $103,441,517
Georgia    $408,680,608    $343,635,239    $65,045,369
Iowa    $396,206,849    $344,731,540    $51,475,309
Oklahoma    $391,200,150    $380,479,633    $10,720,517
USC    $374,128,429    $374,128,429    $0
Michigan State    $373,348,695    $321,539,458    $51,809,237
Virginia    $371,891,285    $357,475,801    $14,415,484
Texas A&M    $359,862,009    $342,419,076    $17,442,933
Stanford    $359,261,704    $356,038,374    $3,223,330
Nebraska    $359,089,969    $332,714,925    $26,375,044
Kansas    $356,685,528    $297,351,141    $59,334,387
Kentucky    $340,638,906    $327,047,572    $13,591,334
South Carolina    $336,434,820    $328,674,789    $7,760,031
Minnesota    $329,448,928    $322,970,257    $6,478,671
Oklahoma State    $326,238,178    $273,959,017    $52,279,161
California    $319,553,483    $319,502,736    $50,747
Arkansas    $317,472,840    $304,516,585    $12,956,255
North Carolina    $311,318,829    $310,322,260    $996,569
UCLA    $307,518,115    $307,501,197    $16,918
Duke    $305,442,709    $304,180,138    $1,262,571
Boston College    $300,446,948    $295,093,893    $5,353,055
Washington    $297,429,491    $279,371,129    $18,058,362
Purdue    $289,997,727    $277,327,048    $12,670,679
Oregon    $287,925,483    $276,292,935    $11,632,548
Virginia Tech    $281,014,390    $252,140,462    $28,873,928
Clemson    $278,773,748    $265,776,203    $12,997,545
Florida State    $278,057,903    $271,387,906    $6,669,997
Louisville    $276,626,938    $263,116,665    $13,510,273
Connecticut    $274,438,065    $274,159,199    $278,866
Illinois    $272,272,142    $244,345,811    $27,926,331
West Virginia    $268,839,229    $240,910,022    $27,929,207
Indiana    $268,489,651    $247,066,702    $21,422,949
Arizona State    $265,675,468    $263,293,925    $2,381,543
Missouri    $256,386,080    $251,401,330    $4,984,750
Miami (FL)    $255,735,910    $242,972,602    $12,763,308
Rutgers    $245,105,184    $244,719,877    $385,307
Texas Tech    $244,451,812    $228,964,729    $15,487,083
Colorado    $241,239,561    $230,601,450    $10,638,111
Arizona    $240,762,291    $230,260,937    $10,501,354
Kansas State    $239,718,709    $202,264,641    $37,454,068
Syracuse    $237,755,312    $231,115,007    $6,640,305
Georgia Tech    $236,123,569    $234,657,630    $1,465,939
Oregon State    $232,407,604    $229,464,206    $2,943,398
Baylor    $223,543,720    $223,543,720    $0
North Carolina State    $223,022,563    $218,020,914    $5,001,649
Vanderbilt    $220,415,601    $214,755,898    $5,659,703
TCU    $218,609,628    $218,609,628    $0
Northwestern    $218,374,098    $218,374,098    $0
Pittsburgh    $205,426,419    $205,426,419    $0
Iowa State    $200,744,619    $200,483,939    $260,680
Wake Forest    $198,222,588    $195,112,422    $3,110,166
Mississippi    $182,994,902    $182,994,902    $0
Washington State    $178,899,390    $167,359,496    $11,539,894
BYU    $176,271,821    $165,932,047    $10,339,774
UNLV    $176,004,389    $174,248,158    $1,756,231
Cincinnati    $169,056,019    $169,056,019    $0
Central Florida    $168,895,820    $149,374,346    $19,521,474
South Florida    $165,778,650    $158,959,092    $6,819,558
SMU    $164,819,233    $164,819,233    $0
San Diego State    $160,482,385    $158,512,757    $1,969,628
Memphis    $160,343,086    $160,343,086    $0
Mississippi State    $156,784,564    $154,797,211    $1,987,353
Houston    $146,184,825    $146,184,825    $0
Hawaii    $144,883,108    $140,475,050    $4,408,058
New Mexico    $142,260,446    $142,260,446    $0
Utah    $141,632,138    $140,555,716    $1,076,422
Rice    $139,262,236    $139,262,225    $11
East Carolina    $137,431,677    $131,846,315    $5,585,362
Temple    $134,796,733    $134,796,733    $0
Fresno State    $131,963,307    $126,742,047    $5,221,260
Tulsa    $121,666,475    $121,666,475    $0
Wyoming    $117,552,012    $117,552,012    $0
Miami (OH)    $116,694,393    $116,302,849    $391,544
UTEP    $110,917,044    $110,478,057    $438,987
UAB    $109,558,625    $107,644,360    $1,914,265
Boise State    $109,026,773    $108,213,191    $813,582
Central Michigan    $106,675,697    $106,172,625    $503,072
New Mexico State    $106,615,411    $106,021,740    $593,671
Colorado State    $104,878,858    $101,913,551    $2,965,307
Nevada    $103,880,156    $103,258,379    $621,777
Buffalo    $103,468,402    $103,393,256    $75,146
Marshall    $103,342,431    $103,028,965    $313,466
Ohio    $101,622,884    $100,292,169    $1,330,715
Tulane    $98,896,105    $98,896,105    $0
Western Michigan    $98,867,968    $97,908,010    $959,958
Western Kentucky    $97,493,804    $97,493,804    $0
Florida International    $97,437,507    $94,837,277    $2,600,230
Eastern Michigan    $97,352,052    $96,207,540    $1,144,512
Akron    $92,964,535    $92,076,375    $888,160
Bowling Green    $92,589,069    $83,727,362    $8,861,707
Toledo    $91,120,410    $91,120,410    $0
San Jose State    $90,973,290    $88,601,270    $2,372,020
Kent State    $89,627,091    $88,258,535    $1,368,556
Northern Illinois    $89,406,214    $86,390,693    $3,015,521
Southern Miss    $88,112,557    $86,055,428    $2,057,129
Middle Tennessee State    $86,174,212    $86,174,212    $0
Ball State    $85,663,374    $85,655,065    $8,309
North Texas    $80,917,213    $78,780,725    $2,136,488
Utah State    $73,544,824    $72,363,321    $1,181,503
Florida Atlantic    $72,676,329    $70,083,968    $2,592,361
Troy    $67,845,069    $67,845,069    $0
Idaho    $66,638,186    $65,901,165    $737,021
Louisiana Tech    $63,420,129    $63,285,520    $134,609
Louisiana-Lafayette    $53,756,169    $53,211,381    $544,788
Arkansas State    $52,805,477    $52,805,477    $0
Louisiana-Monroe    $40,303,634    $38,431,807    $1,871,827
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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #179 on: September 13, 2011, 05:58:49 PM »
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Football Revenue and Expenses   

School   '09-10 revenue   '09-10 Expenses   '09-10 Profit
Texas   $93,942,815.00   $25,112,331   $68,830,484
Oklahoma   $58,295,888.00   $20,150,769   $38,145,119
Nebraska   $49,928,228.00   $17,843,849   $32,084,379
Texas A&M   $41,915,428.00   $16,599,798   $25,315,630
Oklahoma State   $32,787,498.00   $15,479,410   $17,308,088
Colorado   $26,233,929.00   $12,558,503   $13,675,426
Texas Tech   $26,201,009.00   $14,688,382   $11,512,627
Missouri   $25,378,066.00   $13,759,649   $11,618,417
Iowa State   $19,974,924.00   $13,368,441   $6,606,483
Kansas   $17,885,176.00   $16,270,250   $1,614,926
Kansas State   $17,570,624.00   $11,157,789   $6,412,835
Baylor   $14,355,322.00   $12,462,241   $1,893,081
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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #180 on: September 13, 2011, 06:01:01 PM »
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/05/06/school-specific-broadcasting-revenue/


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What I can show you is what each school is showing as revenue for broadcasting rights (television, radio and internet) through their responses to open records requests. This is separate from the money they receive from conference distributions, so it shouldn’t include any broadcasting money received from conference-wide media rights contracts.

The chart below is every school for which I have a value and represents the 2009-2010 school year. Those not listed either showed $0 or did not have to respond to open records requests (either because they’re private or protected by state laws).


1    University of North Carolina    $11,171,458.00
2    University of Alabama    $8,444,674.00
3    University of Kentucky    $7,743,327.00
4    University of Florida    $7,450,000.00
5    University of Kansas    $7,276,988.00
6    Louisiana State University    $7,012,730.00
7    Oklahoma State University    $6,395,000.00
8    University of Tennessee    $6,293,621.00
9    Oregon State University    $6,267,671.00
10    University of Georgia    $6,231,392.00


Big 12
University of Kansas    $7,276,988.00
Oklahoma State University    $6,395,000.00
University of Nebraska    $4,393,529.00
University of Missouri    $4,081,549.00
Kansas State University    $3,263,941.00
Iowa State University    $2,608,896.00
University of Texas    $338,171.00
University of Oklahoma    $317,361.00
University of Colorado    $155,528.00
Texas Tech University
   $0.00
Texas A&M University    $0.00
Baylor    N/A



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« Reply #181 on: September 13, 2011, 06:04:11 PM »
Again, absolutely no difference between KU and K-State, except of course for the fact that KU has more money, a larger alumni base, a majority of the KC television market, an AAU membership, and an incredibly elite/profitable basketball program (with a national following). 


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« Reply #182 on: September 13, 2011, 06:06:52 PM »
And a Gridiron Club.
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« Reply #183 on: September 13, 2011, 06:07:48 PM »
And a Gridiron Club.



And a black head coach who can recruit. 

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« Reply #184 on: September 13, 2011, 06:11:50 PM »
thank god you're here :woot:

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« Reply #185 on: September 13, 2011, 06:13:34 PM »
And a black head coach who can recruit.  
JFC it's 2011 get past color :opcat:

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« Reply #186 on: September 13, 2011, 06:13:38 PM »
http://businessofcollegesports.com/2011/05/06/school-specific-broadcasting-revenue/


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What I can show you is what each school is showing as revenue for broadcasting rights (television, radio and internet) through their responses to open records requests. This is separate from the money they receive from conference distributions, so it shouldn’t include any broadcasting money received from conference-wide media rights contracts.

The chart below is every school for which I have a value and represents the 2009-2010 school year. Those not listed either showed $0 or did not have to respond to open records requests (either because they’re private or protected by state laws).


1    University of North Carolina    $11,171,458.00
2    University of Alabama    $8,444,674.00
3    University of Kentucky    $7,743,327.00
4    University of Florida    $7,450,000.00
5    University of Kansas    $7,276,988.00
6    Louisiana State University    $7,012,730.00
7    Oklahoma State University    $6,395,000.00
8    University of Tennessee    $6,293,621.00
9    Oregon State University    $6,267,671.00
10    University of Georgia    $6,231,392.00


Big 12
University of Kansas    $7,276,988.00
Oklahoma State University    $6,395,000.00
University of Nebraska    $4,393,529.00
University of Missouri    $4,081,549.00
Kansas State University    $3,263,941.00
Iowa State University    $2,608,896.00
University of Texas    $338,171.00
University of Oklahoma    $317,361.00
University of Colorado    $155,528.00
Texas Tech University
   $0.00
Texas A&M University    $0.00
Baylor    N/A



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something is horribly wrong with those numbers
University of Texas   $338,171.00
Florida State University   $349,869.00
University of Oklahoma   $317,361.00


all of these school make more than KU in reality
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« Reply #187 on: September 13, 2011, 06:13:45 PM »
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Football Revenue and Expenses   

School   '09-10 revenue   '09-10 Expenses   '09-10 Profit
Texas   $93,942,815.00   $25,112,331   $68,830,484
Oklahoma   $58,295,888.00   $20,150,769   $38,145,119
Nebraska   $49,928,228.00   $17,843,849   $32,084,379
Texas A&M   $41,915,428.00   $16,599,798   $25,315,630
Oklahoma State   $32,787,498.00   $15,479,410   $17,308,088
Colorado   $26,233,929.00   $12,558,503   $13,675,426
Texas Tech   $26,201,009.00   $14,688,382   $11,512,627
Missouri   $25,378,066.00   $13,759,649   $11,618,417
Iowa State   $19,974,924.00   $13,368,441   $6,606,483
Kansas   $17,885,176.00   $16,270,250   $1,614,926
Kansas State   $17,570,624.00   $11,157,789   $6,412,835
Baylor   $14,355,322.00   $12,462,241   $1,893,081

These numbers irritate the hell out of me
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Re: phog.net realignment gems
« Reply #188 on: September 13, 2011, 06:16:33 PM »
something is horribly wrong with those numbers
University of Texas   $338,171.00
Florida State University   $349,869.00
University of Oklahoma   $317,361.00


all of these school make more than KU in reality

ku is 21.5x the school texas is.  what's so hard to understand?   :confused:

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« Reply #189 on: September 13, 2011, 06:21:06 PM »
something is horribly wrong with those numbers
University of Texas   $338,171.00
Florida State University   $349,869.00
University of Oklahoma   $317,361.00


all of these school make more than KU in reality

ku is 21.5x the school texas is.  what's so hard to understand?   :confused:

KU behind the scenes string pullers!!!!!! :comeatme: :kstategrad: :comeatme: :kstategrad:
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« Reply #190 on: September 13, 2011, 06:32:00 PM »
Have any of you guys ever been to a KSU-Powercat-themed bar/restaurant that was located in a city other than Manhattan?

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« Reply #191 on: September 13, 2011, 06:33:49 PM »
Amazing that out of all the teams other conferences are poaching from the Big 12, none are ku. I guess they just don't care about your " :kstategrad:"

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« Reply #192 on: September 13, 2011, 06:35:53 PM »
Have any of you guys ever been to a KSU-Powercat-themed bar/restaurant that was located in a city other than Manhattan?
Fat Tony's was all EMAW until we left and they went UFC.

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« Reply #193 on: September 13, 2011, 06:37:04 PM »
Amazing that out of all the teams other conferences are poaching from the Big 12, none are ku. I guess they just don't care about your " :kstategrad:"

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« Reply #194 on: September 13, 2011, 06:38:17 PM »
Have any of you guys ever been to a KSU-Powercat-themed bar/restaurant that was located in a city other than Manhattan?
Fat Tony's was all EMAW until we left and they went UFC.

Does not count.  ATEMAW.  AT=All Time.  EMAW at all times of its life.

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« Reply #195 on: September 13, 2011, 06:40:15 PM »
Have any of you guys ever been to a KSU-Powercat-themed bar/restaurant that was located in a city other than Manhattan?
Fat Tony's was all EMAW until we left and they went UFC.

Does not count.  ATEMAW.  AT=All Time.  EMAW at all times of its life.
We broke up with them.

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« Reply #196 on: September 13, 2011, 06:46:06 PM »
Amazing that out of all the teams other conferences are poaching from the Big 12, none are ku. I guess they just don't care about your " :kstategrad:"



KU has been loyal to the Big 12 throughout this entire process, but you better believe they're currently having discussions with the ACC, Big East, and Pac 12 in case the conference collapses.  If Texas doesn't end up in the Pac 12, there's a very good chance KU goes there with Oklahoma (and a couple of other schools).

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« Reply #197 on: September 13, 2011, 06:49:02 PM »
Amazing that out of all the teams other conferences are poaching from the Big 12, none are ku. I guess they just don't care about your " :kstategrad:"



KU has been loyal to the Big 12 throughout this entire process, but you better believe they're currently having discussions with the ACC, Big East, and Pac 12 in case the conference collapses. 



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« Reply #198 on: September 13, 2011, 06:52:50 PM »
Amazing that out of all the teams other conferences are poaching from the Big 12, none are ku. I guess they just don't care about your " :kstategrad:"



KU has been loyal to the Big 12 throughout this entire process, but you better believe they're currently having discussions with the ACC, Big East, and Pac 12 in case the conference collapses.  If Texas doesn't end up in the Pac 12, there's a very good chance KU goes there with Oklahoma (and a couple of other schools).

Source?

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« Reply #199 on: September 13, 2011, 07:04:30 PM »
Wish I was as informed as Ben about conference allignment  :horrorsurprise: