phog.net realignment gems

[Dugout DickStone]

Why do they care at all about this?  They should be looking for an easy basketball league to dominate.  The Summit League would be a good fit.

KU already dominates the Big 12... I think we're ready for a little bit of a challenge.   

So just scrap football?  Not a horrible idea.  It isn't generating any $$.

[Ira Hayes]

Why do they care at all about this?  They should be looking for an easy basketball league to dominate.  The Summit League would be a good fit.

KU already dominates the Big 12... I think we're ready for a little bit of a challenge.   

What conference is VCU in?

[OregonSmock]

Yeah, there's absolutely no difference between KU and K-State when it comes to realignment.  Forget about the fact that KU has an elite basketball program, a top 20 national following, an AAU membership, and owns a majority of a relatively large TV market (Kansas City).  


 

[sonofdaxjones]

Has anyone seen Beems and KansasCitySportsFan in the same room at the same time?

[thebigcatbowski]

Yeah, there's absolutely no difference between KU and K-State when it comes to realignment.  Forget about the fact that KU has an elite basketball program, a top 20 national following, an AAU membership, and owns a majority of a relatively large TV market (Kansas City).  


 

 

[pike]

Yeah, there's absolutely no difference between KU and K-State when it comes to realignment.  Forget about the fact that KU has an elite basketball program, a top 20 national following, an AAU membership, and owns a majority of a relatively large TV market (Kansas City).  


 

 

Did beems copy/paste that or did he post that himself?

[OregonSmock]

Why do they care at all about this?  They should be looking for an easy basketball league to dominate.  The Summit League would be a good fit.

KU already dominates the Big 12... I think we're ready for a little bit of a challenge.   

So just scrap football?  Not a horrible idea.  It isn't generating any $$.

That's funny. 


http://newsburglar.com/2009/08/18/college-athletic-department-budget/


Rank    School    Total Revenue    Conference
1st    Texas    $120,288,370    Big 12
2nd    Ohio State    $117,953,712    Big Ten
3rd    Florida    $106,030,895    Southeastern Conference
4th    Michigan    $99,027,105    Big Ten
5th    Wisconsin    $93,452,334    Big Ten
6th    Penn State    $91,570,233    Big Ten
7th    Auburn    $89,305,326    Southeastern Conference
8th    Alabama    $88,869,810    Southeastern Conference
9th    Tennessee    $88,719,798    Southeastern Conference
10th    Oklahoma State    $88,554,438    Big 12
11th    Kansas    $86,009,257    Big 12
12th    Louisiana State    $84,183,362    Southeastern Conference
13th    Georgia    $84,020,180    Southeastern Conference
14th    Notre Dame    $83,352,439    Independent
15th    Iowa    $81,148,310    Big Ten
16th    Michigan State    $77,738,746    Big Ten
17th    Oklahoma    $77,098,009    Big 12
18th    Stanford    $76,661,466    Pac-10
19th    University of Southern California    $76,409,919    Pac-10
20th    Nebraska    $75,492,884    Big 12
21st    Texas A&M    $74,781,640    Big 12
22nd    Kentucky    $71,186,184    Southeastern Conference
23rd    Duke    $67,820,335    ACC
24th    South Carolina    $66,545,953    Southeastern Conference
25th    UCLA    $66,088,264    Pac-10

[ednksu]

whats amazing is that they really don't realize how small town they are.

their idea of national recognition is moving somewhere else, finding an alumni backer club or watch party and than fapping with each other about how much of a national brand they are while ignoring the fact they are at an alumni party.

[wetwillie]

Why do they care at all about this?  They should be looking for an easy basketball league to dominate.  The Summit League would be a good fit.

KU already dominates the Big 12... I think we're ready for a little bit of a challenge.  

So just scrap football?  Not a horrible idea.  It isn't generating any $$.

That's funny.  


http://newsburglar.com/2009/08/18/college-athletic-department-budget/


Rank    School    Total Revenue    Conference
1st    Texas    $120,288,370    Big 12
2nd    Ohio State    $117,953,712    Big Ten
3rd    Florida    $106,030,895    Southeastern Conference
4th    Michigan    $99,027,105    Big Ten
5th    Wisconsin    $93,452,334    Big Ten
6th    Penn State    $91,570,233    Big Ten
7th    Auburn    $89,305,326    Southeastern Conference
8th    Alabama    $88,869,810    Southeastern Conference
9th    Tennessee    $88,719,798    Southeastern Conference
10th    Oklahoma State    $88,554,438    Big 12
11th    Kansas    $86,009,257    Big 12
12th    Louisiana State    $84,183,362    Southeastern Conference
13th    Georgia    $84,020,180    Southeastern Conference
14th    Notre Dame    $83,352,439    Independent
15th    Iowa    $81,148,310    Big Ten
16th    Michigan State    $77,738,746    Big Ten
17th    Oklahoma    $77,098,009    Big 12
18th    Stanford    $76,661,466    Pac-10
19th    University of Southern California    $76,409,919    Pac-10
20th    Nebraska    $75,492,884    Big 12
21st    Texas A&M    $74,781,640    Big 12
22nd    Kentucky    $71,186,184    Southeastern Conference
23rd    Duke    $67,820,335    ACC
24th    South Carolina    $66,545,953    Southeastern Conference
25th    UCLA    $66,088,264    Pac-10

  Oklahoma State dwarfing lil bro OU by over  ten million

[AbeFroman]

Yeah, there's absolutely no difference between KU and K-State when it comes to realignment.  Forget about the fact that KU has an elite basketball program, a top 20 national following, an AAU membership, and owns a majority of a relatively large TV market (Kansas City).  


 

Wait, is Beems contributing to posting phog.net realignment gems or is that really his?

Clearly someone still doesn't get it that basketball means nothing in terms of conference realignment. Neither does AAU, Nebraska lost theirs right after going to the big 10. Neither do walmart t-shirt sales figures. I won't even comment on Kansas City being a "relatively large TV market"

[sonofdaxjones]

2 years ago at the Big 12 Tourney.  The game that got the highest TV ratings . . . not the Championship game with UT vs ku, but the K-State vs ku game.

The highest rated Saturday night ESPN basketball game in years . . . the ku vs K-State game a couple of years ago . . . and ku has been in similar games many times, and didn't get anywhere close to those ratings.

At the NCAA tourney a couple of years ago after ku taken out by Iran, the TV ratings in KC "dropped" from a 38 to a still dominate 34 share for the K-State game and that's with thousands of tv sets getting kicked in by low self esteem bandwagon ku fans.

K-State has hosted ESPN Gameday for BOTH football and basketball, one of an elite group of schools (that excludes ku) to do so.

ku's athletic budget isn't even anywhere close to $86 million these days, they barely made $70 million dollars in total revenues last year and that's with $3.5 million in assistance from the school and student fees.

Of course ku athletics counts capital giving as revenue and puts their facilities that are technically state property on their books as assets (K-State does not).

[WillieWatanabe]

Why do they care at all about this?  They should be looking for an easy basketball league to dominate.  The Summit League would be a good fit.

KU already dominates the Big 12... I think we're ready for a little bit of a challenge.  

So just scrap football?  Not a horrible idea.  It isn't generating any $$.

That's funny.  


http://newsburglar.com/2009/08/18/college-athletic-department-budget/


Rank    School    Total Revenue    Conference
1st    Texas    $120,288,370    Big 12
2nd    Ohio State    $117,953,712    Big Ten
3rd    Florida    $106,030,895    Southeastern Conference
4th    Michigan    $99,027,105    Big Ten
5th    Wisconsin    $93,452,334    Big Ten
6th    Penn State    $91,570,233    Big Ten
7th    Auburn    $89,305,326    Southeastern Conference
8th    Alabama    $88,869,810    Southeastern Conference
9th    Tennessee    $88,719,798    Southeastern Conference
10th    Oklahoma State    $88,554,438    Big 12
11th    Kansas    $86,009,257    Big 12
12th    Louisiana State    $84,183,362    Southeastern Conference
13th    Georgia    $84,020,180    Southeastern Conference
14th    Notre Dame    $83,352,439    Independent
15th    Iowa    $81,148,310    Big Ten
16th    Michigan State    $77,738,746    Big Ten
17th    Oklahoma    $77,098,009    Big 12
18th    Stanford    $76,661,466    Pac-10
19th    University of Southern California    $76,409,919    Pac-10
20th    Nebraska    $75,492,884    Big 12
21st    Texas A&M    $74,781,640    Big 12
22nd    Kentucky    $71,186,184    Southeastern Conference
23rd    Duke    $67,820,335    ACC
24th    South Carolina    $66,545,953    Southeastern Conference
25th    UCLA    $66,088,264    Pac-10

"2007 Athletic Revenue by School"

[SkinnyBenny]

What with that 2009 2007 influx of cash you presented, you guys must be pumped about eventually getting the Gridiron Club in 2010, right?

[AbeFroman]

Why do they care at all about this?  They should be looking for an easy basketball league to dominate.  The Summit League would be a good fit.

KU already dominates the Big 12... I think we're ready for a little bit of a challenge.  

So just scrap football?  Not a horrible idea.  It isn't generating any $$.

That's funny.  


http://newsburglar.com/2009/08/18/college-athletic-department-budget/


Rank    School    Total Revenue    Conference
1st    Texas    $120,288,370    Big 12
2nd    Ohio State    $117,953,712    Big Ten
3rd    Florida    $106,030,895    Southeastern Conference
4th    Michigan    $99,027,105    Big Ten
5th    Wisconsin    $93,452,334    Big Ten
6th    Penn State    $91,570,233    Big Ten
7th    Auburn    $89,305,326    Southeastern Conference
8th    Alabama    $88,869,810    Southeastern Conference
9th    Tennessee    $88,719,798    Southeastern Conference
10th    Oklahoma State    $88,554,438    Big 12
11th    Kansas    $86,009,257    Big 12
12th    Louisiana State    $84,183,362    Southeastern Conference
13th    Georgia    $84,020,180    Southeastern Conference
14th    Notre Dame    $83,352,439    Independent
15th    Iowa    $81,148,310    Big Ten
16th    Michigan State    $77,738,746    Big Ten
17th    Oklahoma    $77,098,009    Big 12
18th    Stanford    $76,661,466    Pac-10
19th    University of Southern California    $76,409,919    Pac-10
20th    Nebraska    $75,492,884    Big 12
21st    Texas A&M    $74,781,640    Big 12
22nd    Kentucky    $71,186,184    Southeastern Conference
23rd    Duke    $67,820,335    ACC
24th    South Carolina    $66,545,953    Southeastern Conference
25th    UCLA    $66,088,264    Pac-10

Good job using numbers calculated right after the miracle season. I bet those numbers are the same since Mangino and Perkins are still steering the ship... oh wait

[Scary Smart]

This thread just got a whole lot more awesome.

[OregonSmock]

4th most valuable program in all of college basketball:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/16/most-valuable-college-basketball-teams-business-sports-college-basketball_slide_5.html





4. Kansas Jayhawks

Team Value: $24.0 million

Profit: $15.2 million

Head Coach: Bill Self

Conference: Big 12

Previous Value Rank: 5

Lawrence, Kan., Metro Population: 114,748

The Jayhawks have played in more NCAA tournament games over the last six years than rivals Kansas State, Oklahoma State and Missouri combined.


 

[sonofdaxjones]

ku athletics can use that money to pay the millions they owe to various campus entities like parking services.

[ednksu]

Somebody ask Ben to post the massive profits from all the cash thats being raked in.



**Waits for Bank of America to foreclose on Gridiron Club**

[WillieWatanabe]

4th most valuable program in all of college basketball:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/16/most-valuable-college-basketball-teams-business-sports-college-basketball_slide_5.html





4. Kansas Jayhawks

Team Value: $24.0 million

Profit: $15.2 million

Head Coach: Bill Self

Conference: Big 12

Previous Value Rank: 5

Lawrence, Kan., Metro Population: 114,748

The Jayhawks have played in more NCAA tournament games over the last six years than rivals Kansas State, Oklahoma State and Missouri combined.


 

"college basketball"

[sonofdaxjones]

According to the NCAA financial report, in Academic Year 1010 ku needed every dime of that $3.5 million in direct instituional support and student fees, otherwise they would have finished over $2 million in the red.

[MeatSauce]

2 years ago at the Big 12 Tourney.  The game that got the highest TV ratings . . . not the Championship game with UT vs ku, but the K-State vs ku game.

The highest rated Saturday night ESPN basketball game in years . . . the ku vs K-State game a couple of years ago . . . and ku has been in similar  many times, and didn't get anywhere close to those ratings.

At the NCAA tourney a couple of years ago after ku taken out by Iran, the TV ratings in KC "dropped" from a 38 to a still dominate 34 share for the K-State game and that's with thousands of tv sets getting kicked in by low self esteem bandwagon ku fans.

K-State has hosted ESPN Gameday for BOTH football and basketball, one of an elite group of schools (that excludes ku) to do so.

ku's athletic budget isn't even anywhere close to $86 million these days, they barely made $70 million dollars in total revenues last year and that's with $3.5 million in assistance from the school and student fees.

Of course ku athletics counts capital giving as revenue and puts their facilities that are technically state property on their books as assets (K-State does not).

[Ira Hayes]

What they don't seem to realize is that the big money in basketball goes to the NCAA.  96% of the NCAA's revenue if I am correct.  And then it is distributed fairly evenly.  

The BCS conferences make their money from football.  The Big East and the ACC are the only ones that care about basketball.  And that's because they suck at football and don't make any money.

So why exactly would a BCS conference want KU?  <-- Real question.

KU can't raise the money to build real suites in their stadium so they line up La-Z-Boys in the end zone because nobody cares about football.  It's pathetic.

[ednksu]

According to the NCAA financial report, in Academic Year 1010 ku needed every dime of that $3.5 million in direct instituional support and student fees, otherwise they would have finished over $2 million in the red.

DING!!!!

[pike]

According to the NCAA financial report, in Academic Year 1010 ku needed every dime of that $3.5 million in direct instituional support and student fees, otherwise they would have finished over $2 million in the red.

KU is like a sleezy landlord or utility company trying to rape college kids. Sick, really.

[OregonSmock]

Yeah, there's absolutely no difference between KU and K-State when it comes to realignment.  Forget about the fact that KU has an elite basketball program, a top 20 national following, an AAU membership, and owns a majority of a relatively large TV market (Kansas City).  


 

Wait, is Beems contributing to posting phog.net realignment gems or is that really his?

Clearly someone still doesn't get it that basketball means nothing in terms of conference realignment. Neither does AAU, Nebraska lost theirs right after going to the big 10. Neither do walmart t-shirt sales figures. I won't even comment on Kansas City being a "relatively large TV market"

Are you just delusional or in all out denial mode?  This whole realignment process is about TV revenue.  It's not about football.  If it were about football, Boise State would be in the Pac 12 right now instead of Colorado.  KU has a large TV market with KC, has a national following, and as an added bonus KU's an AAU member.  Those are all things that conferences like the Pac 12 are looking for.  K-State has none of them.