SkinnyBenny's Band of Merry Misfits: Townie Master Thread

[kso_FAN]

I have coached against Schartz regularly and he is a very good coach. His teams are disciplined and play hard. From what I know, he seems like a good guy. This incident seems pretty unfortunate. I also know as a coach you can't know about this type of stuff and let it go on. Eventually the wrong kid will be involved and if something goes down it will fall on you. It sounds to me like the school board spent significant time talking to their lawyers and realized at this point they don't have a case for termination, but this is far from over. There is still stuff going down with the legal system and they will let that run its course. I feel bad for the guy because I think he does well for the kids and the town, but if the serious charges come through, the district and school board will have to have a fall guy.

[Dr Rick Daris]

his wife is a lawyer as well and also someone who seems very capable, knowledgeable, smart, etc. i would absolutely 100% not want to be on her bad side or go up against her in court or whatever.

[kso_FAN]

his wife is a lawyer as well and also someone who seems very capable, knowledgeable, smart, etc. i would absolutely 100% not want to be on her bad side or go up against her in court or whatever.

I have heard this.

[wetwillie]

How soft have we become that you can't even do a little light hazing on the high school football team.  Good grief.

[Dr Rick Daris]

How soft have we become that you can't even do a little light hazing on the high school football team.  Good grief.

i think a nose or jaw got broken or something

[kso_FAN]

also I don't think this is really over yet.. http://1350kman.com/school-board-takes-no-action-on-schartz-relinquishes-decision-to-superintendent/

It looks like the Superintendent and the board are playing a game of hot potato.

“The USD 383 Board of Education has a strong policy against hazing — hazing is a crime,” school board president Darrel Edie read in a prepared statement following an extended executive session with fellow board members, superintendent Marvin Wade and a phone conference with an attorney from the Kansas Association of School Boards. “The board also has policies concerning the supervision of students. Given the situation is under review of the county attorney and given the serious nature of the allegations and given a student was injured, it is premature for the board to take action.

“In the interim, the board directs the superintendent to insure the safety of all students in our educational and extracurricular programs. The mission of the USD 383 Board of Education is creating a safe and positive learning environment.”

Wade followed.

“At this time Joe Schartz remains employed in his current capacities in the district,” he said.

If I'm in Coach Schartz's shoes, I probably don't feel really good about the comments from the Board of Ed guy.

"Hey, we're not going to decide anything tonight. But what allegedly happened is a crime and we're challenging the superintendent to make sure our kids are supervised and safe. Have a Merry Christmas Coach."

[CHONGS]

Honestly it sounds like he should get canned.

[yoga-like_abana]

If I were Schartz I’d resign then go to junction and kick Mhs ass every year


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[yoga-like_abana]

Especially since mhs just dominates jc nowadays


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[SkinnyBenny]

If I were Schartz I’d resign then go to junction and kick Mhs ass every year


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If Schartz were at JC he'd never kick MHS ass because the Silver Trophy is bigger than any one man, and.......

[SkinnyBenny]

who are we.

[bubbles4ksu]

Hazing. (a) Hazing is recklessly coercing, demanding or encouraging another person to perform, as a condition of membership in a social or fraternal organization, any act which could reasonably be expected to result in great bodily harm, disfigurement or death or which is done in a manner whereby great bodily harm, disfigurement or death could be inflicted.

i don't think getting beat up on your bday is hazing, just battery.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I have coached against Schartz regularly and he is a very good coach. His teams are disciplined and play hard. From what I know, he seems like a good guy. This incident seems pretty unfortunate. I also know as a coach you can't know about this type of stuff and let it go on. Eventually the wrong kid will be involved and if something goes down it will fall on you. It sounds to me like the school board spent significant time talking to their lawyers and realized at this point they don't have a case for termination, but this is far from over. There is still stuff going down with the legal system and they will let that run its course. I feel bad for the guy because I think he does well for the kids and the town, but if the serious charges come through, the district and school board will have to have a fall guy.

I don't really think you can not know about this type of stuff and let it go on, either. Part of your job as a coach should be knowing that every single one of your football players is getting beat up on their birthday.

[kso_FAN]

Hazing. (a) Hazing is recklessly coercing, demanding or encouraging another person to perform, as a condition of membership in a social or fraternal organization, any act which could reasonably be expected to result in great bodily harm, disfigurement or death or which is done in a manner whereby great bodily harm, disfigurement or death could be inflicted.

i don't think getting beat up on your bday is hazing, just battery.

https://www.littleapplepost.com/2017/12/20/police-complete-investigation-involving-manhattan-high-football-team/

Now that the police investigating is complete, the case will be submitted to the County Attorney’s Office for a determination on charges. In addition to the original battery offense, a supplemental report has been completed for endangering a child and contribute to a child’s misconduct. Police released no additional details.

The additional possible charges don't look good.

[kso_FAN]

I have coached against Schartz regularly and he is a very good coach. His teams are disciplined and play hard. From what I know, he seems like a good guy. This incident seems pretty unfortunate. I also know as a coach you can't know about this type of stuff and let it go on. Eventually the wrong kid will be involved and if something goes down it will fall on you. It sounds to me like the school board spent significant time talking to their lawyers and realized at this point they don't have a case for termination, but this is far from over. There is still stuff going down with the legal system and they will let that run its course. I feel bad for the guy because I think he does well for the kids and the town, but if the serious charges come through, the district and school board will have to have a fall guy.

I don't really think you can not know about this type of stuff and let it go on, either. Part of your job as a coach should be knowing that every single one of your football players is getting beat up on their birthday.

Of course. I completely understand that; if you know about it and don't do anything, legally you are basically complicit to the act.

[hatingfrancisco]

I've known Schartz since we were kids.  I've got a laundry list of problems that I have with what goes on in this school district but Schartz isn't on it.

I think if he takes the fall for this then it's an absolute travesty.  This is battery and they should go after the kids that escalated this thing.

[SkinnyBenny]

I've known Schartz since we were kids.  I've got a laundry list of problems that I have with what goes on in this school district but Schartz isn't on it.

I think if he takes the fall for this then it's an absolute travesty.  This is battery and they should go after the kids that escalated this thing.

THIS IS THE THREAD FOR THEM!

[Kat Kid]

JC people I talk to absolutely enjoying the hell out of the moral high ground.

[Dr Rick Daris]

I've known Schartz since we were kids.  I've got a laundry list of problems that I have with what goes on in this school district but Schartz isn't on it.

I think if he takes the fall for this then it's an absolute travesty.  This is battery and they should go after the kids that escalated this thing.

THIS IS THE THREAD FOR THEM!

yes it is, let's hear them!

[hatingfrancisco]

I've known Schartz since we were kids.  I've got a laundry list of problems that I have with what goes on in this school district but Schartz isn't on it.

I think if he takes the fall for this then it's an absolute travesty.  This is battery and they should go after the kids that escalated this thing.

THIS IS THE THREAD FOR THEM!

yes it is, let's hear them!

I still have 3 lil hF's to push through this district.  I probably shouldn't start airing my grievances just yet.

[chum1]

I'm in town for a couple of days. Parents definitely filled me in on the hazing/battery. Also say that some want a different mascot. A wolf or something to run on the field instead of an Indian.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Manhattan should change their mascot to the Townies.

[chum1]

This wolf or whatever would be a second mascot.

[Rage Against the McKee]

This wolf or whatever would be a second mascot.

He'd be the mascot's pet. It would actually be a small dog named Woof.

[wetwillie]

I'll wait until known MHS stud Dugout Dickstone weighs in but I still feel like this is way overblown.