Rick Perry's prayer circle jerk

[hemmy]

Ron Paul

[sys]

i can understand the appeal of paul.  i like a lot of the stuff he adovcates.  i might even vote for him, if i vote in a primary, as a protest.


but it's pretty hard to seriously advocate for a presidential candidate who doesn't even understand the nature and role of money.

[hemmy]

i can understand the appeal of paul.  i like a lot of the stuff he adovcates.  i might even vote for him, if i vote in a primary, as a protest.


but it's pretty hard to seriously advocate for a presidential candidate who doesn't even understand the nature and role of money.

[Dugout DickStone]

Did it rain?

No.

God's record of response to public prayers is no better than chance. The record of political leaders who wrap themselves in the Lord's mantle is even worse. Rick Perry himself responded to a terrible drought in the state he governs by declaring three days of prayer for rain. Three months later the drought has gotten so bad that at least one Texas town is preparing to recycle urine into drinking water.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/clay-naff/rick-perry-prayer_b_920442.html

So where was God?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Organizing public prayer is nowhere near as dangerous as signing the marriage vow that Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachman did. The whole document is crazy, but some highlights:

Slavery had a disastrous impact on African-American families, yet sadly a child born into slavery in 1860 was more likely to be raised by his mother and father in a two-parent household than was an African-American baby born after the election of the USA's first African-American President.

Social protections, especially for women and children, have been evaporating as we have collectively “debased the currency” of marriage. This debasement continues as a function of adultery; “quickie divorce;” physical and verbal spousal abuse; non-committal co-habitation; exemplary infidelity and “unwed cheating” among celebrities, sports figures and politicians; anti-scientific bias which holds, in complete absence of empirical proof, that non-heterosexual inclinations are genetically determined, irresistible and akin toinnate traits like race, gender and eye color; as well as anti-scientific bias which holds, against all empirical evidence, that homosexual behavior in particular, and sexual promiscuity in general, optimizes individual or public health.

Therefore, in any elected or appointed capacity by which I may have the honor of serving our fellow citizens in these United States, I the undersigned do hereby solemnly vow* to honor and to cherish, to defend and to uphold, the Institution of Marriage as only  between one man and one woman. I vow* to do so through my:

Support for prompt reform of uneconomic, anti-marriage aspects of welfare policy, tax policy, and marital/divorce law, and extended “second chance” or “cooling-off” periods for those seeking a “quickie divorce.”

Steadfast embrace of a federal Marriage Amendment to the U.S. Constitution which protects the definition of marriage as between one man and one woman in all of the United States.

Humane protection of women and the innocent fruit of conjugal intimacy – our next generation of American children – from human trafficking, sexual slavery, seduction into promiscuity, and all forms of pornography and prostitution,infanticide, abortion and other types of coercion or stolen innocence.

Support for the enactment of safeguards for all married and unmarried U.S. Military and National Guard personnel,especially our combat troops, from inappropriate same-gender or opposite-gender sexual harassment, adultery or intrusively intimate commingling among attracteds (restrooms, showers, barracks, tents, etc.); plus prompt termination of military policymakers who would expose American wives and daughters to rape or sexual harassment, torture, enslavement or sexual leveraging by the enemy in forward combat roles.

Fierce defense of the First Amendment?s rights of Religious Liberty and Freedom of Speech, especially against the intolerance of any who would undermine law-abiding American citizens and institutions of faith and conscience for their adherence to, and defense of, faithful heterosexual monogamy.

[OK_Cat]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

[Rage Against the McKee]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

[pike]

i can understand the appeal of paul.  i like a lot of the stuff he adovcates.  i might even vote for him, if i vote in a primary, as a protest.


but it's pretty hard to seriously advocate for a presidential candidate who doesn't even understand the nature and role of money.

 

[pike]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

But why should you vote if the two party dictatorship only allows you to vote for two crap heads? If anything it gives you more reason to complain.

[Rage Against the McKee]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

But why should you vote if the two party dictatorship only allows you to vote for two crap heads? If anything it gives you more reason to complain.

You have a primary election to help determine your candidate, and based on his posting history, he should have a hard on for just about anybody the republicans put forward.

[OK_Cat]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

But why should you vote if the two party dictatorship only allows you to vote for two crap heads? If anything it gives you more reason to complain.

either do something about it or shut up, dummy.

[pike]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

But why should you vote if the two party dictatorship only allows you to vote for two crap heads? If anything it gives you more reason to complain.

either do something about it or shut up, dummy.

Well there isn't much to do right now.  Until people can pull their heads out of their asses and realize the two party system is an absolute train wreck, than we're kind of in gridlock

[Rage Against the McKee]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

But why should you vote if the two party dictatorship only allows you to vote for two crap heads? If anything it gives you more reason to complain.

either do something about it or shut up, dummy.

Well there isn't much to do right now.  Until people can pull their heads out of their asses and realize the two party system is an absolute train wreck, than we're kind of in gridlock

Well, a 3 party system, assuming the third party was libertarian or tea party would do nothing but assure that the democrats win every election. I'm personally in favor of eliminating political parties altogether, but I know that will never happen and I deal with it.

[CNS]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

But why should you vote if the two party dictatorship only allows you to vote for two crap heads? If anything it gives you more reason to complain.

either do something about it or shut up, dummy.

Well there isn't much to do right now.  Until people can pull their heads out of their asses and realize the two party system is an absolute train wreck, than we're kind of in gridlock

Well, a 3 party system, assuming the third party was libertarian or tea party would do nothing but assure that the democrats win every election. I'm personally in favor of eliminating political parties altogether, but I know that will never happen and I deal with it.

I don't know.  There are a lot of middle-of-the-road people that don't vote consistently one way or the other.  I think a libertarian party, for example, could pull from right, left, and middle a little for all diff reasons. 

Also, you always have a choice to not vote for a D or an R. 

[pike]

just an observation, but if i read it correctly, sugar dick doesn't vote.  so guess what, sugar dick?  stfu, you don't get the right to bitch if you didn't participate.

Yeah, that blew my mind as well. WTF would he be posting so much on politics boards if he doesn't even care enough about politics to go vote?

But why should you vote if the two party dictatorship only allows you to vote for two crap heads? If anything it gives you more reason to complain.

either do something about it or shut up, dummy.

Well there isn't much to do right now.  Until people can pull their heads out of their asses and realize the two party system is an absolute train wreck, than we're kind of in gridlock

Well, a 3 party system, assuming the third party was libertarian or tea party would do nothing but assure that the democrats win every election. I'm personally in favor of eliminating political parties altogether, but I know that will never happen and I deal with it.

I don't know.  There are a lot of middle-of-the-road people that don't vote consistently one way or the other.  I think a libertarian party, for example, could pull from right, left, and middle a little for all diff reasons. 

Also, you always have a choice to not vote for a D or an R. 

Not really. The Ds and Rs have done an excellent job of keeping anyone else off the balot. Speaking of Ron Paul, he's even said that he would run as an independent but the system won't allow him to do so.

Sure you can just write someones name in, but then your vote is completely irrelevant.

[michigancat]

I have voted for many libertarians over the years.

 Don't be a jackass, pike. Go out and do something beyond spreading conspiracy theories on a message board about sports.

[OK_Cat]

pike and sugar dick are coming off as big losers in this thread, wow.

[Dugout DickStone]

pike and sugar dick are coming off as big losers in this thread, wow.

Not as big a loser as god, whose existence was disproven by Perry.

[pike]

I have voted for many libertarians over the years.

 Don't be a jackass, pike. Go out and do something beyond spreading conspiracy theories on a message board about sports.

Perhaps, but your vote didn't count. There's really only two choices, which boils down to one choice since often times the dem and reps are different sides of the same coin.

If there really was a third choice than we'd have more than 2 independents in the entire congress.

pike and sugar dick are coming off as big losers in this thread, wow.

Shouldn't you be wishing death upon someone, somewhere?

[michigancat]

I have voted for many libertarians over the years.

 Don't be a jackass, pike. Go out and do something beyond spreading conspiracy theories on a message board about sports.

Perhaps, but your vote didn't count. There's really only two choices, which boils down to one choice since often times the dem and reps are different sides of the same coin.

If there really was a third choice than we'd have more than 2 independents in the entire congress.

That's bullshit. In state and local elections your vote absolutely matters directly in deciding elections. And if a third party is powerful enough to shift a national election (Perot, Nader), you can see policy change in the major parties even if you don't get your third party elected.

Go out and volunteer for a libertarian candidate for city commissioner or state legislature or somethin and quit being a loser dumbass. Sure, you might not get a libertarian elected to the Senate or president overnight, but you have to start somewhere if you really care about it.

[pike]

I have voted for many libertarians over the years.

 Don't be a jackass, pike. Go out and do something beyond spreading conspiracy theories on a message board about sports.

Perhaps, but your vote didn't count. There's really only two choices, which boils down to one choice since often times the dem and reps are different sides of the same coin.

If there really was a third choice than we'd have more than 2 independents in the entire congress.

That's bullshit. In state and local elections your vote absolutely matters directly in deciding elections. And if a third party is powerful enough to shift a national election (Perot, Nader), you can see policy change in the major parties even if you don't get your third party elected.

Go out and volunteer for a libertarian candidate for city commissioner or state legislature or somethin and quit being a loser dumbass. Sure, you might not get a libertarian elected to the Senate or president overnight, but you have to start somewhere if you really care about it.

Well yeah the local level is different. But at the national level there's no doubt that we're tied up in a two party dictatorship, and even when an independent gets on the ballot they still have no chance. That's because most Americans practically pledge allegiance to their political party, and eat up all their bull crap propaganda from their favorite news network which they also pledge allegiance too. People treat it like it's rooting for their favorite sports team. If you've ever read the comments on a fox news or tea party post on facebook you'll know what I'm talking about. There's some brain washed mother fuckers out there.

[Bookcat]

What a bunch of lunatics. Instead of fixing our problems, lets just "pray" that they take care of themselves.

Well, I am not that religious, but it may do more good than what the current administration has to offer. 

really? an invisible man in the sky is going to do more good that people on Earth who pass laws? Link please.

Also, show proof that the invisible man in the sky has nothing to do with the massive famine going on in Somalia.etc....

[the KHAN!]

You are all pretty much Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).


Satan '12.

[sys]

it's like talking to children.  Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), lap ones.

[Panjandrum]

Did it rain?

No.

God's record of response to public prayers is no better than chance. The record of political leaders who wrap themselves in the Lord's mantle is even worse. Rick Perry himself responded to a terrible drought in the state he governs by declaring three days of prayer for rain. Three months later the drought has gotten so bad that at least one Texas town is preparing to recycle urine into drinking water.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/clay-naff/rick-perry-prayer_b_920442.html

So where was God?