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[jtksu]

Yeah.  That's why every team in the country has them.  They're all racist.  Yep.

[Dugout DickStone]

Yeah, I do.  Not that they would make an actual contribution on the field but that they would practice harder against the guys who do matter.  Why do you think walk-ons are even kept around? 

Walkons are a great way to fill up some roster space with hard working white boys that do things the right way.

Walkons should ONLY be for young men from wealthy families who are willing to funnel cars/$$/premium lodging to high recruits.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah, I do.  Not that they would make an actual contribution on the field but that they would practice harder against the guys who do matter.  Why do you think walk-ons are even kept around? 

Walkons are a great way to fill up some roster space with hard working white boys that do things the right way.

Walkons should ONLY be for young men from wealthy families who are willing to funnel cars/$$/premium lodging to high recruits.

Absolutely, outside a very select few, walk-ons should first have to go through a family financial screening.   Those accepted are then placed as "roommates" with star athletes.   

[Clevey 2 Times]

<---------- very excited to see Klein and BB run the zone read.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't schollies only guaranteed for a season? They could pull one if they wanted, but this is generally not done considering they have to pretend like their valuing education and all that and it wouldn't be all that nice to commit to a kids "education" then say, sorry you're a shitty LB and we really don't care about your education....

[Rage Against the McKee]

<---------- very excited to see Klein and BB run the zone read.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't schollies only guaranteed for a season? They could pull one if they wanted, but this is generally not done considering they have to pretend like their valuing education and all that and it wouldn't be all that nice to commit to a kids "education" then say, sorry you're a shitty LB and we really don't care about your education....

What would pulling schollies do to help us?

[Deez Nutz]

<---------- very excited to see Klein and BB run the zone read.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't schollies only guaranteed for a season? They could pull one if they wanted, but this is generally not done considering they have to pretend like their valuing education and all that and it wouldn't be all that nice to commit to a kids "education" then say, sorry you're a shitty LB and we really don't care about your education....

What would pulling schollies do to help us?

I think he means that if we awarded a bunch of walk-ons a scholarship in order to fill up to the 85 one year, and then the following year may potentially need to pull some of them as we get enough recruits coming in to even our numbers out.  For the record I am not in favor of handing out scholarships to walk-ons who will never see the field just for the hell of it.

[Rage Against the McKee]

<---------- very excited to see Klein and BB run the zone read.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't schollies only guaranteed for a season? They could pull one if they wanted, but this is generally not done considering they have to pretend like their valuing education and all that and it wouldn't be all that nice to commit to a kids "education" then say, sorry you're a shitty LB and we really don't care about your education....

What would pulling schollies do to help us?

I think he means that if we awarded a bunch of walk-ons a scholarship in order to fill up to the 85 one year, and then the following year may potentially need to pull some of them as we get enough recruits coming in to even our numbers out.  For the record I am not in favor of handing out scholarships to walk-ons who will never see the field just for the hell of it.

I'm all for giving scholarships to walk-ons who are better than the scholarship players. Most of them suck, though.

[W.Churchill]

I don't remember if there was a shortage of bodies in '04 and '05 when Snyder's defense gave up 30 and 27 ppg respectively?  Read old Phil Steele's with no mention of it. 

[MadCat]

I am for pulling scholarships from the players who are the offspring of our coaches.

[Clevey 2 Times]

<---------- very excited to see Klein and BB run the zone read.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't schollies only guaranteed for a season? They could pull one if they wanted, but this is generally not done considering they have to pretend like their valuing education and all that and it wouldn't be all that nice to commit to a kids "education" then say, sorry you're a crapty LB and we really don't care about your education....

What would pulling schollies do to help us?

I think he means that if we awarded a bunch of walk-ons a scholarship in order to fill up to the 85 one year, and then the following year may potentially need to pull some of them as we get enough recruits coming in to even our numbers out.  For the record I am not in favor of handing out scholarships to walk-ons who will never see the field just for the hell of it.

Yes, this is what I mean.

I think in specific cases schollies have been pulled, but I bet the NCAA frowns upon this w/o a legitimate cause. Without putting too much thought into it, seems to make sense to award guaranteed 4 year schollies with obvious performance stipulations for renewal.

[TheHamburglar]

<---------- very excited to see Klein and BB run the zone read.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't schollies only guaranteed for a season? They could pull one if they wanted, but this is generally not done considering they have to pretend like their valuing education and all that and it wouldn't be all that nice to commit to a kids "education" then say, sorry you're a crapty LB and we really don't care about your education....

What would pulling schollies do to help us?

I think he means that if we awarded a bunch of walk-ons a scholarship in order to fill up to the 85 one year, and then the following year may potentially need to pull some of them as we get enough recruits coming in to even our numbers out.  For the record I am not in favor of handing out scholarships to walk-ons who will never see the field just for the hell of it.

Yes, this is what I mean.

I think in specific cases schollies have been pulled, but I bet the NCAA frowns upon this w/o a legitimate cause. Without putting too much thought into it, seems to make sense to award guaranteed 4 year schollies with obvious performance stipulations for renewal.

Stupid question,  but if you give a scholly to a player that had previously participated as a walk-on, do they count towards your 25 for that year?

[smurfinator6]

<---------- very excited to see Klein and BB run the zone read.

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't schollies only guaranteed for a season? They could pull one if they wanted, but this is generally not done considering they have to pretend like their valuing education and all that and it wouldn't be all that nice to commit to a kids "education" then say, sorry you're a crapty LB and we really don't care about your education....

What would pulling schollies do to help us?

I think he means that if we awarded a bunch of walk-ons a scholarship in order to fill up to the 85 one year, and then the following year may potentially need to pull some of them as we get enough recruits coming in to even our numbers out.  For the record I am not in favor of handing out scholarships to walk-ons who will never see the field just for the hell of it.

Yes, this is what I mean.

I think in specific cases schollies have been pulled, but I bet the NCAA frowns upon this w/o a legitimate cause. Without putting too much thought into it, seems to make sense to award guaranteed 4 year schollies with obvious performance stipulations for renewal.

Stupid question,  but if you give a scholly to a player that had previously participated as a walk-on, do they count towards your 25 for that year?

Not a stupid question at all.  It depends on how long the player has been in the program.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if a player has been in the program for at least two years, awarding him with a scholarship will not count against the 25-per-year limit but will count against the 85 scholarship total.  Less than two years in the program will count against both.  That's why Finney and Puetz likely will not be on scholarship this fall but will likely be on scholarship next year.  I could be wrong, though.