Historic Final Four this Weekend

[Sayers]

You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?

It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far.  LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4.    

Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?

And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.

[Pete]

[Stevesie60]

You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?

It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far.  LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4.    

Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?

And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.

Too far. This HAS to be a sock.

[Trim]

  to the bar to get good seats. 

[Rams]

You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?

It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far.  LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4.    

Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?

And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.

Too far. This HAS to be a sock.

Nope.  This is exhibit A for typical BHKUF.  Pete rough ridin' landed Moby Dick.

[felix rex]

'grats, pete.

[Rams]

You know what the absolute BEST part of Sayers' argument is?

It's that it would have COMPLETELY undermined KU's national championship had they made it that far.  LOL, they played no one to get there (but they didn't get there, obviously), would have played an 8 to get into the final game, and then played a 3 or a 4.    

Irrelevant. Like I said, a National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on. 35 wins and a 7th consecutive conference title is a body of work. Even 11 losses in a big boy conference back in 88 was above average. I guess that kitty team wasn't that good that year?

And it's easy for SI to put a subtitle on a magazine cover from 20 years ago and for "PAGE 2" of espn to call it "cinderella" after the fact. I guess it fits the storyline of the day. But nobody was calling them that in 88. KU is never "Cinderella". KU is Goliath.

Let me translate this for all of you that have only been following butt-hurt KU fans for a couple of years:    &  <--taking his ball and bracket and going home...to his parents' basement

[Bookcat]

Sayers is a phog.net goon that is put in some great gems on the football board too.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't agree.  Something is wrong.  A National Champion should have some sort of body of work that they can rest their laurels on.  A poor to average team getting hot at the right time should not result in a National Championship. In many cases, these were not one game anomolies but consistent poor play. When an announcer goes on and on about the beauty of this tournament being that "all four teams struggled during their regular season", then something is wrong. I think the tournament should be representative of a true National Champion, not a mediocre team that catches fire at the right time.

Like Kansas as the 6 seed in the 1988 tournament?    Did you dudes still hang the banner?

As a #6 seed, KU had the fortune of not having to play the #1, #2, or #3 seeds in its regional.

I knew some basketball newbies would bring this up. In 1988 the Final Four included a Number 1 Seed  Arizona, a Number 1 Seed Oklahoma, a Number 2 Seed Duke and a Number 6 Seed Kansas.  It was called Danny and the Miracles but very few people called Kansas a Cinderella.

This year a 3, 4, 8 and 11 seed play in the Final Four.  Our 2011 National Champion will either be 9th ranked UConn, 11th ranked Kentucky or one of the teams they play in the finals in an 8th seed Butler and 11th seed VCU that were not ranked in the top 25. 

That's true. KU truly deserved its national championship after beating all those 1 and 2 seeds in the final four. VCU would never be able to beat a 1 seed.

[Emo EMAW]

Reel is screaming Pete. 

[bakerman]

wow, just wow. this is amazing work right here Pete.

Sayers making Ben look like he is a reasonable person....

[Panjandrum]

'grats, pete.

This is his blue marlin.

[kso_FAN]

'grats, pete.

This is his blue marlin.

Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.

[Panjandrum]

'grats, pete.

This is his blue marlin.

Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.

I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.

[Dugout DickStone]

So, OU is the 88 champ?  Congrats Soonerbasketball!!!

[Pete]

'grats, pete.

This is his blue marlin.

Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.

I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.

I'm very conflicted about all of this.

[GCJayhawker]

I am excited to watch this Final 4.  I want to see if Kemba can keep up his insane play, can Kentucky continue to win while only playing 6 players really, can Butler win the title this year, and can VCU continue their tremendous performance in the tournament and become the first team to win 7 games in their path to win the title.

Personally I am pulling for Butler

[felix rex]

'grats, pete.

This is his blue marlin.

Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.

I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.

I'm very conflicted about all of this.

I think you should quit worrying about it and just take a damn compliment when it's offered.

[Dugout DickStone]

I am excited to watch this Final 4.  I want to see if Kemba can keep up his insane play, can Kentucky continue to win while only playing 6 players really, can Butler win the title this year, and can VCU continue their tremendous performance in the tournament and become the first team to win 7 games in their path to win the title.

Personally I am pulling for Butler

Kentucky.  We could witness them cementing status as the greatest basketball program of all time.

[kso_FAN]

'grats, pete.

This is his blue marlin.

Its pretty amazing how many different ways this is an incredible thread.

I think we should rename Pete to 'Santiago' for at least a while to celebrate his catch.

I'm very conflicted about all of this.

Ahab? 

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG ).

[dmartin]

I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG ).

Could 50 Cent play both the morrii?

[EllToPay]

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Football has it right!  (9 votes)

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The tournament system has lost it's novelty and is more of a freak show than it is a legitimate method of determining a champion. Ku and Ohio State should be playing each other for the national championship. They deserved it based on their overwhelming success during the regular season and conference play. Instead, we get to see VCU play Butler??!!! The NCAA tourney is a money grab that's an old and worn out system that's clearly broken and no longer works.

Football has had it right all along. Regular season play should mean something. And #1 should play #2 for the national championship game.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG ).

Could 50 Cent play both the morrii?

Cast:

Bill Self - Mel Gibson
Morris Twins - 50 cent
Mario Little - Chris Brown
Brady Morningstar - Ron Howard (same age)

I'd have to sit and really think who would play Shaka Smart and the VCU players.

[Panjandrum]

I'm a little conflicted about who I want to win. On the one hand, there's Kentucky, and nobody deserves a national championship more than John Calipari. On the other hand, I really like a good Disney movie, and the VCU movie would be epic ("You guys have had a nice run, but now it's time to go home."
OMG ).

Could 50 Cent play both the morrii?

Cast:

Bill Self - Mel Gibson
Morris Twins - 50 cent
Mario Little - Chris Brown
Brady Morningstar - Ron Howard (same age)

I'd have to sit and really think who would play Shaka Smart and the VCU players.

Someone needs to go to some warehouse and dust off ET and use him for the role of Tyrel Reed.