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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #175 on: March 23, 2011, 03:16:18 PM »
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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #176 on: March 23, 2011, 03:19:53 PM »

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #177 on: March 23, 2011, 03:22:03 PM »
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #178 on: March 23, 2011, 03:27:24 PM »
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
First, I need to get this out of the way: You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

2 retards fighting over a hotdog like it was gold does not make the hotdog gold. You're saying he's worth what he's going to get ($2.2M) because there's an idiot willing to pay him that. It's a ridiculous view. From your perspective, it's impossible to overpay for ANYTHING as long as there are 2 people that agree that it's worth that value.

You have two desparate ADs on your side. You know what I have on my side? Every other AD in the country, minus 6, that are not willing to pay their coach that much money. You know why? Because their coaches aren't worth it unless they get to Final Fours or are at least regulars to the Elite 8. They know that, I know that, everybody in the country know that..... I guess besides you, Alden, and whoever the water head at Arkansas AD that's lusting over the Richardson days.

MA will be making $2.2M next year.  and his income tax return will say that he is worth that much.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #179 on: March 23, 2011, 03:35:34 PM »
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #180 on: March 23, 2011, 03:36:32 PM »
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana

I wouldn't call Indiana a good job.  They have been crap for quite a while. 

Indiana may kill a career.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #181 on: March 23, 2011, 03:42:05 PM »
I love coaching searches. My favorite part of them is hearing who KU fans think would be a good coach. Their short list always includes:

1. Any coach who has played them close, but not beaten them.
2. Current KU assistants
3. Former KU assistants
4. Former KU players
5. Mark Fox
Where did you get that overnight bag?

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #182 on: March 23, 2011, 03:44:23 PM »
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #183 on: March 23, 2011, 03:46:27 PM »
I love coaching searches. My favorite part of them is hearing who KU fans think would be a good coach. Their short list always includes:

1. Any coach who has played them close, but not beaten them.
2. Current KU assistants
3. Former KU assistants
4. Former KU players
5. Mark Fox

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #184 on: March 23, 2011, 03:50:01 PM »
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.

Jack said that Frank was offered the Oregon job last year

Was not aware of this  :dunno:

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #185 on: March 23, 2011, 03:51:18 PM »
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.

Jack said that Frank was offered the Oregon job last year

Was not aware of this  :dunno:

Was discussed here last year.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #186 on: March 23, 2011, 03:53:11 PM »
BITB working Jack over on this.  Jack unhappy.

Jack said that Frank was offered the Oregon job last year

Was not aware of this  :dunno:

Was discussed here last year.

Oh. I know Oregon was going ape sh*t but I didn't know Frank's name came up

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #187 on: March 23, 2011, 04:07:05 PM »
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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #188 on: March 23, 2011, 04:16:03 PM »
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.


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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #190 on: March 23, 2011, 04:32:00 PM »
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there.  

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana

I wouldn't call Indiana a good job.  They have been cac for quite a while. 

Indiana may kill a career.

I bet they wish they never would have fired Knight.. at least their team would have proper footwork when shooting free throws...

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #191 on: March 23, 2011, 04:34:50 PM »
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.



You're a dumbass. Someone said Crean, Petro then laughed at him and said clearly someone's wishful thinking.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #192 on: March 23, 2011, 04:36:49 PM »
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.
i'm going with this... he got $750,000 last year before ther run then signed a 12 year extension.  I think he likes it there.  Guessing he is getting over $1mill so he may acrtually be a happy millionare and stay there. 

If he leaves Butler it will be for Indiana

I wouldn't call Indiana a good job.  They have been cac for quite a while. 

Indiana may kill a career.

I bet they wish they never would have fired Knight.. at least their team would have proper footwork when shooting free throws...

and wouldn't have chicken crap defense 

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #193 on: March 23, 2011, 05:05:32 PM »
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@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #194 on: March 23, 2011, 05:08:31 PM »
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.



You're a dumbass. Someone said Crean, Petro then laughed at him and said clearly someone's wishful thinking.

Well duh, of course I'm a dumbass, but I'm pretty sure I can hear.   You must have missed the part when they were talking about paying $2.3M per and going after every big name in the biz...right around 12:30. Mentioned Crean, Dixon, Stevens etc..  talked about where Dixon was from, pretty sure I heard them right.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #195 on: March 23, 2011, 05:11:32 PM »
KC talking heads also mentioned Tom Crean...forgot to add him.

It was the dispshits on 810 from 11-2...is it Petro or is he in the morning???...i never can remember...i listen to Rome then switch over to BITB at 2.



You're a dumbass. Someone said Crean, Petro then laughed at him and said clearly someone's wishful thinking.

Well duh, of course I'm a dumbass, but I'm pretty sure I can hear.   You must have missed the part when they were talking about paying $2.3M per and going after every big name in the biz...right around 12:30. Mentioned Crean, Dixon, Stevens etc..  talked about where Dixon was from, pretty sure I heard them right.

He's not saying they will have a chance with any of them, he's just saying that they will probably try.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #196 on: March 23, 2011, 05:17:56 PM »
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@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

Seems like anymore teams just grant releases to players eventually but Tennessee is refusing to release at least one player so we might see some resistance at MU.
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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #197 on: March 23, 2011, 05:35:41 PM »
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@vgregorian peeps on campus say Flip is going with him. Dad Pressey knew.

Ship going down.  Abandon ship.

premature.  see who they hire before we dance on Mizzou's ashes

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #198 on: March 23, 2011, 05:36:13 PM »
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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #199 on: March 23, 2011, 05:37:31 PM »
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Tulsa huh