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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #150 on: March 23, 2011, 01:02:15 PM »
the question is will mizzou go slth (i think we can agree that MA was slth right?) again?

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #151 on: March 23, 2011, 01:05:10 PM »
the question is will mizzou go slth (i think we can agree that MA was slth right?) again?


I don't think he was a full on SLTH.  Too dirty in recruiting(allegedly).

Game was very SLTHy though.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #152 on: March 23, 2011, 01:05:55 PM »
all the tweeting heads are saying pearl is going to get a show cause, which if true, means no one will hire him.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #153 on: March 23, 2011, 01:06:28 PM »
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Mike Anderson officially has a decision to make. Arkansas offer approved for $2.2 million and seven years.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #154 on: March 23, 2011, 01:08:33 PM »
The "Show Cause" penalty is perhaps the harshest in the NCAA's arsenal, as it essentially prevents a person from working in college basketball.
A show cause penalty -- usually with set duration -- may be handed down for a variety of reasons, but is most often used for coaches who commit NCAA violations relating to recruiting. For example, ex-Indiana coach was hit with a five-year show cause penalty stemming from improper phone calls made to recruits, and Ohio State coach Jim O'Brien faced the same penalty after making an under-the-table payment to a recruit.

Any school wishing to hire a coach under a "show cause" designation must appear before the NCAA infractions committee and potentially face new sanctions. No Division I athletic director has ever taken that step. As such, "show cause" usually amounts to a total ban from working at the college level for the duration of the penalty.

For example, California coach Todd Bozeman was hit with an eight-year show cause penalty stemming from improper payments made to the family of one of his players. Ten years elapsed before Bozeman was able to find a job at the college level -- he's currently the head coach at Morgan State.

Examples:
The NCAA hit ex-Indiana coach Kelvin Sampson with a five-year show cause penalty, while Sampson assistant Rob Senderoff received a three-year penalty.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #155 on: March 23, 2011, 01:37:57 PM »
yeah pat forde was on tony kornheisers radio show yesterday and they were talking about how its likely pearl will get hit with a show cause and wont be coaching for a few years. so i wouldnt worry about him anytime soon. he will most likely head to tv for a little while and rehab his image

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #156 on: March 23, 2011, 01:39:27 PM »
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Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
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7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #157 on: March 23, 2011, 01:45:18 PM »
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Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Dedsports Dudley E. Dawson
7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

 :lol: at the buyout.


That's a really good thing for Ark. Nobody is willing to pay Anderson more than $2.2M and if he sucks, they can dump his ass for a low amount.
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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #158 on: March 23, 2011, 01:46:33 PM »
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Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Dedsports Dudley E. Dawson
7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

 :lol: at the buyout.


That's a really good thing for Ark. Nobody is willing to pay Anderson more than $2.2M and if he sucks, they can dump his ass for a low amount.

I get it.  Seems like a pretty bad deal for Mike, if you ask me.  No way he lives up to the expectations of SEC boosters paying $2.2M.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #159 on: March 23, 2011, 01:50:33 PM »
It's the SEC dude.  He'll run away with it.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #160 on: March 23, 2011, 01:51:52 PM »
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benjaminhboyd Benjamin Boyd
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Arkansas TV station has told KMOX that Mike Anderson will be announced as new Arkansas coach Thursday with a 7 yr/ $2.2 million per deal
26 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Dedsports Dudley E. Dawson
7 years, $2.2 million, $500,000 buyout

 :lol: at the buyout.


That's a really good thing for Ark. Nobody is willing to pay Anderson more than $2.2M and if he sucks, they can dump his ass for a low amount.

I get it.  Seems like a pretty bad deal for Mike, if you ask me.  No way he lives up to the expectations of SEC boosters paying $2.2M.
I agree. You must be a regular deep runner in the tourney for that kind of scratch. Something I doubt MA ever is. At least, for Ark, they can get rid of him on the cheap if he fails. If he doesn't, hey, you got a great coach.
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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #161 on: March 23, 2011, 02:23:09 PM »
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RT @DeanBlevins: Just spoke with Nolan Richardson about Anderson. He said "something will happen today." He & Anderson r together n Tulsa.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #162 on: March 23, 2011, 02:24:31 PM »
In typical dipshit fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #163 on: March 23, 2011, 02:28:30 PM »
In typical dipshit fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

MU is a much better job than you're giving it credit for.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #164 on: March 23, 2011, 02:31:23 PM »
Brad Stevens?  Zero Chance.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #165 on: March 23, 2011, 02:34:29 PM »
Jamie Dixon is national COY and currently coaches in the Big East.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #166 on: March 23, 2011, 02:39:49 PM »
Ben Howland

I'm 12 and what the eff is this

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #167 on: March 23, 2011, 02:44:40 PM »
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #168 on: March 23, 2011, 02:50:00 PM »
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #169 on: March 23, 2011, 02:56:25 PM »
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.

Stevens' stock will never be hotter.  With that said, I think he really enjoys his job at Butler.

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« Reply #170 on: March 23, 2011, 03:01:06 PM »
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.

Stevens' stock will never be hotter.  With that said, I think he really enjoys his job at Butler.

He played and Asst'ed there, didn't he?

That said, if a high stage job opened this week, he would have to be on the short list.  By high stage, I mean better than MU.

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« Reply #171 on: March 23, 2011, 03:07:13 PM »
On with BITB:

Jack Harry:

"Mike Anderson runs a clean program."

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« Reply #172 on: March 23, 2011, 03:10:47 PM »
In typical dipcac fashion, talking heads on the radio in KC are throwing out these people as possible MU bball coach:

Jamie Dixon, Ben Howland, Brad Stevens....

lamo...who the eff do these MU guys think they are?

Who is saying that?  I'm listening and heard them say this morning there is no way that they get Stevens.

Stevens' stock will never be hotter.  With that said, I think he really enjoys his job at Butler.

He played and Asst'ed there, didn't he?

That said, if a high stage job opened this week, he would have to be on the short list.  By high stage, I mean better than MU.

Played at Depauw and went through the ranks of asst under Thad Matta at Butler until 2007 when he took over.

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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #173 on: March 23, 2011, 03:10:48 PM »
I love Frank. Love him. But if he flirted with other schools three years in a row, then I couldn't care less if he left.

This line of thought is so basic.  If he happens to be so good at his job that competitors want to bid for his services every year, good for him.  If you were good enough at your job you'd do the same.  If he can keep getting Alden to give him cash then good for him.  If Mizzou was getting jerked around then Mike Alden is to blame.
It's a basic line of thought if you actually think your coach is worth what he is asking. MA isn't worth 2 million a year. Neither is Frank. At some point you want your coach to be satisfied with his pay. How many times do you think you could go to your boss, tell him you have another offer that you would like him to match, before he shakes your hand and says "good luck with your future endeavors".

Like anyone else with a job, they are worth what someone is willing to pay them.  If this is a bidding war, there are at least two schools who feel he is worth it, so that makes him worth it.  If Mizzou doesn't want to pay him that, no one is forcing them to.  Mizzou is begging Anderson to shop his services & push up his price by playing into this game.
So it's impossible to overpay for something as long as there are two parties willing to do so? 

Pretty much textbook supply and demand here. There's only one Mike Anderson and there's more than one buyer interested in purchasing Mike Anderson's services. This equals profit for Mike Anderson. More power to him.

The only instance where I think they could be accused of "paying too much" is if they don't actually have the money to pay Mike Anderson. I don't think this is the case... but perhaps Mike Anderson should check in to this before signing a contract.

Absolutely not true.  Just because some idiot (or idiots) are willing to pay $X for a good or service does not necessarily mean that said good or service has a value of $X.

I should have added that "supply and demand" and more generally the study of economics relies on "rational decision making"...history is full of instances where this isn't the case (in fact often times it isn't the case).   To think that because someone (or even more than one person) is willing to pay $X for something means that is the value and so therefore they are not "overpaying" for that something is absurd.

Until you become a big time athletic department booster or an AD, your opinion over who is overpaid and who isn't doesn't mean dick.  I think iPhones are rough ridin' stupid and wouldn't pay $50 for one, who gives a eff what I think, I have no ability to move the market.  You have no ability to determine how much a coach is worth.  Stay out of peoples pocket, meat peeper.  Just because you think Frank Martin is a better basketball coach and gets paid less, doesn't mean that Anderson is overpaid, don't be so simple.

Athletic Directors pay him, they dictate the market.  Coaches are not a good or service.  One goddamn iPad doesn't make crap for Apple.  One Mike Anderson helped Mizzou gross $9.5 million & net over $4 million last year.  Obviously Mike Alden thinks Anderson has great value to the men's basketball program and to the University of Missouri. 

You have such a simplistic view of this it's mind numbing. Yes there is one Mike Anderson. Yes there are two schools that want him. You know what else, there are like hundreds of coaches (which is also what Mike Anderson is). Only about 10 of them are paid $2M plus. You think Anderson is one of the top 10 coaches in the country? GMAFB. For less than $2M, he could be replaced. He had one good year at MU, that is NOT worth $2M.

If he gets to the final four next year, then I'll rearange my opinion on the topic.

Again you are interjecting your opinion where it isn't relevant.  I didn't say that Mike Anderson is a "top ten coach," whatever the hell that means, because clearly that has little to no relevance to his perceived value to a basketball program.  There are at least three major college athletic directors who think Mike Anderson is worth $2 million dollars.  It doesn't matter what your criteria is for a $2 million dollar coach is or whether or not you think he is a top 10 coach.  The people who are decide these things have made it quite clear that Mike Anderson is a $2 million dollar coach.  It has nothing to do with scarcity, goods, supply/demand, or any other entry level macroeconomic term you want to throw out.  The people who decide what a coaches worth is has decided that he is a $2 million dollar coach, its black and white, I have facts on my side and you have your opinion on yours.  Why don't you tell us how much oil should be per barrel based on the gas you put in your smart car or how much gold is per ounce based on the gold ring you got from your nana?  Your opinion on these matters are certainly just as informed and relevant.
First, I need to get this out of the way: You're Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

2 retards fighting over a hotdog like it was gold does not make the hotdog gold. You're saying he's worth what he's going to get ($2.2M) because there's an idiot willing to pay him that. It's a ridiculous view. From your perspective, it's impossible to overpay for ANYTHING as long as there are 2 people that agree that it's worth that value.

You have two desparate ADs on your side. You know what I have on my side? Every other AD in the country, minus 6, that are not willing to pay their coach that much money. You know why? Because their coaches aren't worth it unless they get to Final Fours or are at least regulars to the Elite 8. They know that, I know that, everybody in the country know that..... I guess besides you, Alden, and whoever the water head at Arkansas AD that's lusting over the Richardson days.
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Re: Confirmed that MA loser leaving Missouri for Ark.
« Reply #174 on: March 23, 2011, 03:15:04 PM »
Early name I've heard is Mo St's coach Cuonzo Martin.