Haters are always hating

[kcchiefdav]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6172684

[WillieWatanabe]

Turd? pfftt.

[gato montes]

At least Gottlieb put Pullen in there. More surprising though was Lunardi giving POTY to Pullen. All the others are horrible.

[PowercatPat]

LOL as Self as the COY.

[One Nut Willie]

LOL as Self as the COY.

Why is this so funny?  I can seriously see him getting the award.

[AbeFroman]

LOL as Self as the COY.

Not really, who else would get it?
Barnes - melting down
Turgeron - 3rd is nice, but they aren't lighting the world on fire
FRANK - amazing turn around, but you can't be COY when you start 2-5

The thing I'll never understand is the Morris thug for POY. What makes him special? He's annoyingly average.

[SdK]

I will always hate Andy Katz, so I'm not shocked, but he just wrote an article about Martin for COY and then when it comes voting him....goes another direction. What a douche.

[One Nut Willie]

I think people see Morris as the POY because of his efficiency.  He only averages about 17 ppg, but he doesn't take all that many shots, compared to the scoring leaders.

[wetwillie]

Are they picking who they think will win the award or who they would vote for?

[nicname]

I think people see Morris as the POY because of his efficiency.  He only averages about 17 ppg, but he doesn't take all that many shots, compared to the scoring leaders.

Yeah, he is really good.  Complete douche of a human (from what I've seen) but really good at offensive basketball.

Do they take the whole season into account or just B12 games?

[AbeFroman]

I think people see Morris as the POY because of his efficiency.  He only averages about 17 ppg, but he doesn't take all that many shots, compared to the scoring leaders.

If he's so good, why doesn't he take more shots? hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[One Nut Willie]

He doesn't need to take more shots.  That team is loaded with talent. 

[One Nut Willie]

I think people see Morris as the POY because of his efficiency.  He only averages about 17 ppg, but he doesn't take all that many shots, compared to the scoring leaders.

Yeah, he is really good.  Complete douche of a human (from what I've seen) but really good at offensive basketball.

Do they take the whole season into account or just B12 games?

I'd imagine they just take in account Big 12 games.

[OregonSmock]

LOL as Self as the COY.

Not really, who else would get it?
Barnes - melting down
Turgeron - 3rd is nice, but they aren't lighting the world on fire
FRANK - amazing turn around, but you can't be COY when you start 2-5

The thing I'll never understand is the Morris thug for POY. What makes him special? He's annoyingly average.

If K-State had Marcus Morris, you guys would probably be 1st in the Big 12 right now.  He's averaging 19 ppg in conference play (17.3 ppg overall), while shooting over 60% from the field.  He's got a variety of post moves, and he's also got the ability to shoot from the perimeter.  NBADraft.net has him going #13 in the NBA lottery next year.  



http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft



By the way, if you looked up "annoyingly average" in the dictionary, you'd find a picture of Jamar Samuels.  


 

[AbeFroman]

LOL as Self as the COY.

Not really, who else would get it?
Barnes - melting down
Turgeron - 3rd is nice, but they aren't lighting the world on fire
FRANK - amazing turn around, but you can't be COY when you start 2-5

The thing I'll never understand is the Morris thug for POY. What makes him special? He's annoyingly average.

If K-State had Marcus Morris, you guys would probably be 1st in the Big 12 right now.  He's averaging 19 ppg in conference play (17.3 ppg overall), while shooting over 60% from the field.  He's got a variety of post moves, and he's also got the ability to shoot from the perimeter.  NBADraft.net has him going #13 in the NBA lottery next year.  



http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft



By the way, if you looked up "annoyingly average" in the dictionary, you'd find a picture of Jamar Samuels.  


 

#13?

'grats Beems.

[PowercatPat]

LOL as Self as the COY.

Not really, who else would get it?
Barnes - melting down
Turgeron - 3rd is nice, but they aren't lighting the world on fire
FRANK - amazing turn around, but you can't be COY when you start 2-5

The thing I'll never understand is the Morris thug for POY. What makes him special? He's annoyingly average.

Tad Boyle if CU wins their final 2.

[OregonSmock]

I think people see Morris as the POY because of his efficiency.  He only averages about 17 ppg, but he doesn't take all that many shots, compared to the scoring leaders.

Yeah, he is really good.  Complete douche of a human (from what I've seen) but really good at offensive basketball.

Do they take the whole season into account or just B12 games?

I've met Marcus a couple times, and he's actually a really good guy.  He doesn't get in trouble off of the court, and he actually engages in classroom discussion, unlike a lot of the college kids these days who just sit there with a blank look on their face whenever the teacher asks a question.  Sure, he throws some elbows on the court and plays thuggish sometimes, but I would much rather have guys like that than guys who are soft, goodie two shoes pussies.  

[wetwillie]

 



http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft

56  Chicago Jacob Pullen 6-0 194 PG/SG Kansas State 

   

[OregonSmock]

LOL as Self as the COY.

Not really, who else would get it?
Barnes - melting down
Turgeron - 3rd is nice, but they aren't lighting the world on fire
FRANK - amazing turn around, but you can't be COY when you start 2-5

The thing I'll never understand is the Morris thug for POY. What makes him special? He's annoyingly average.

Tad Boyle if CU wins their final 2.

Why don't you think it should be Self if KU goes 14-2 and wins a 7th straight Big 12 title?

[Emo EMAW]

Which one was the one that was shooting the BB gun?  His brother?  He sort of drags down his brother right?

[CNS]

Markieff at #22.  Don't buy it. 

[ZappaCat]

LOL as Self as the COY.

Not really, who else would get it?
Barnes - melting down
Turgeron - 3rd is nice, but they aren't lighting the world on fire
FRANK - amazing turn around, but you can't be COY when you start 2-5

The thing I'll never understand is the Morris thug for POY. What makes him special? He's annoyingly average.

If K-State had Marcus Morris, you guys would probably be 1st in the Big 12 right now.  He's averaging 19 ppg in conference play (17.3 ppg overall), while shooting over 60% from the field.  He's got a variety of post moves, and he's also got the ability to shoot from the perimeter.  NBADraft.net has him going #13 in the NBA lottery next year.  



http://www.nbadraft.net/2011mock_draft



By the way, if you looked up "annoyingly average" in the dictionary, you'd find a picture of Jamar Samuels.  


 

I understand that Macus is a good player on the 1st place team, but my vision is clouded by watching him in 2 games this year against KSU.

Morris is averaging 11.5 pts per game at .47 pts per minute played
Pullen is averaging 29.5 pts per game at .83 pts per minute played

Morris did this against our average at best big men.
Pullen did this against your future NBA caliber players.

[0.42]

I don't hate the Morris twins. Morningwood, on the other hand--garbage human being

[One Nut Willie]

What about Pullen's 50 assists to 46 turnovers during conference play?  There is more to player of the year than scoring.

[Emo EMAW]

He's the best defensive guard in the conference, maybe the country.