I neither like nor dislike the Oscars

[MakeItRain]

come on now, he was telling a joke and she’s not some defenseless maiden

We're a month away from many of us sharing a space together, are you ready, right now to give every single person in that room they license to say whatever they want to everyone in there without repercussion?

If that were Mel Gibson up there joking about her lip size and broad nose, we all cool with that?

Why are people trying to legislate what Will's and Jada's lines should be before they get upset, as if that's anything that can be defined? This wasn't a celebrity roast, as much as some people itt are framing it that way. I really don't get "that shouldn't have upset him," as if he's the only person in the world upset by words.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Will Smith is wealthy enough that a civil suit has to at least be sort of tempting. I'd agree that Rock should be big enough to not file charges, legally or civilly, though.

[mocat]

Chris Rock should have pressed charges.

lol. This is without a doubt the second worse take I've seen in this from many people.  This, for the record, is the worst
https://twitter.com/Kbrino222/status/1508436296573722626

Anyway I need to know how in the eff can you say, "Will should be able to take the joke," and say "it's just alopecia" then say Rock should press charges. He wasn't hurt, maybe embarrassed on TV, but to think he should be able to say whatever he wants but then should run to the cops, for that? That's some impressive cognitive dissonance, well done to all.

judd apatow had a (now-deleted) banger about how Will could have killed Rock with that slap

[DQ12]

Chris Rock's joke wasn't very nice and Will Smith shouldn't have interrupted the show to slap Chris Rock. 

We should try to do a better job of not hurting people's feelings and keeping our hands to our selves.

[MakeItRain]

Makeitrain thinks grown men hitting other grown men is perfectly fine


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I miss your dumb ass takes and inability to read or form a cogent thought. This was literally 11 posts before you posted this dumb crap.

The joke was out of pocket as was Will Smith's reaction, I'm legitimately confused as to how there could be any other take.

Learn how to read, you dumb [redacted].

[MakeItRain]

This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"

[MakeItRain]

Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris' unacceptable words or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, she was robbed of agency by Will Smith who acted on her behalf without her consent.

Chris Rock's joke wasn't very nice and Will Smith shouldn't have interrupted the show to slap Chris Rock. 

We should try to do a better job of not hurting people's feelings and keeping our hands to our selves.

The end.

[DQ12]

Chris Rock's joke wasn't very nice and Will Smith shouldn't have interrupted the show to slap Chris Rock. 

We should try to do a better job of not hurting people's feelings and keeping our hands to our selves.

The end.

Yes except for laughing at the absurdity of the entire situation, which is warranted imo.

[Spracne]

Will Smith's slap of Chris Rock, while an attempt at enforcing a shift toward an important community norm of able-bodied folks standing up and speaking out in support of those with disabilities, unfortunately entrenched patriarchal patterns of violence and ownership ("keep MY wife's name out your mouth") and silenced Jada Pinkett Smith--a vocal advocate and disabled BIPOC woman who could have responded to the violence of Chris Rock's ableist words with a call out of Chris's unacceptable words, or she could have made a choice to respond with violence if she wanted to. Instead, Will's actions sucked the oxygen out of KU triumphantly returning to the Final Four for the first time since 2018 without my consent.

[yoga-like_abana]

This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"

I'm sure you could enlighten us all on how a comedian shouldn't say anything that could be possibly controversial.

[DQ12]

This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"

I'm sure you could enlighten us all on how a comedian shouldn't say anything that could be possibly controversial.

i think the issue is that people think rock was punching down at jada because she's bald.  "punching down" is generally frowned upon.

you can be controversial without punching down.

[OK_Cat]

Makeitrain thinks grown men hitting other grown men is perfectly fine


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I miss your dumb ass takes and inability to read or form a cogent thought. This was literally 11 posts before you posted this dumb crap.

The joke was out of pocket as was Will Smith's reaction, I'm legitimately confused as to how there could be any other take.

Learn how to read, you dumb [redacted].

You’re definitely not unhinged


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[star seed 7]

lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

These "jokes" are also problematic. I don't know what them, at one time, having an opening relationship has anything to do her now having alopecia and the appropriateness of joking about it. She's mocked for getting it in, I haven't seen a single joke or mockery about Will doing the same with Margot Robbie and others. This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

I don't know about problematic but it certainly gets an eye roll from me. Lots of people can't accept that other people may not share the same expectations of marriage that they do.

Also Chris Rock pressing charges would be really disappointing, I'm glad he decided to just be the bigger person.

[stunted]

when joking about stuff that could be insecurities, really need to know how the person is going to take it. and then be even more safe with it as a buffer.

anyone who says "it's just a joke" probably has never been made fun of for any deep insecurities. it feels super shitty. saying it's just a joke is like those "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO RELAX" videos that used to pollute the internet.

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MakeItRain, have you ever considered not debating with extreme passion every single thing that happens in the entire world and universe and multiverse?

[ChiComCat]

This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

Yes, by her husband. It's a joke not some other guy's dick.

Do you need help understanding "this whole thing?"

I'm sure you could enlighten us all on how a comedian shouldn't say anything that could be possibly controversial.

You can't root for comedians to be controversial and be upset when people do, in fact, find it controversial.

[pissclams]

hosts, which are often times comedians, do roast the audiences at awards shows, it brings levity.

[yoga-like_abana]

What's funny about this is if he doesn't slap Chris Rock no one is even talking about this today.

['taterblast]

i'm still struggling with the idea that it was that mean of a joke. going to get way too analytical here, but

he didn't make fun of her inability to grow hair - ex. "Jada your son's career has taken off quite well, growing rapidly. Your hair should take some lessons" i mean that's not funny but something along those lines.

he was just making a dumb joke about having a buzzed head and i still say whoever wrote the joke probably wasn't aware of the alopecia thing.

[michigancat]

At its core, the joke is mocking Jada's appearance which is a result of a medical condition. I'm not going to pretend that I run around fighting people, but I would certainly be pissed if someone was mocking my wife over a medical condition she's sensitive about.

Regardless of Will's reaction, if this isn't a significant take away from that incident your decency as a person should 100% be called into question. The joke was out of pocket as was Will Smith's reaction, I'm legitimately confused as to how there could be any other take.

Chris Rock has two of the most famous stand up routines of all time, nether of them had a single joke making fun of someone's appearance. I can't remember any good comedian telling a joke about someone's appearance altered by disease or accident. Holding a microphone or having an audience whether it's in a theatre, arena, or the internet doesn't give you license to say whatever you want without repercussion.

I will bet anyone every single dollar I have that Chris Rock will apologize to Jada Pinkett Smith and if nothing else, he regrets telling that joke.

I'm not saying Chris Rock didn't know, but I thought Jada looked beautiful and had no idea she had a condition and didn't shave her head intentionally

['taterblast]

same

[Dr Rick Daris]

lots of great tweets out there but my favorite was something like chris is lucky all the dudes banging jada didn't also rush the stage

These "jokes" are also problematic. I don't know what them, at one time, having an opening relationship has anything to do her now having alopecia and the appropriateness of joking about it. She's mocked for getting it in, I haven't seen a single joke or mockery about Will doing the same with Margot Robbie and others. This whole thing is toxic masculinity run wild, just leave the woman alone, why is this so hard to do?

I don't know about problematic but it certainly gets an eye roll from me. Lots of people can't accept that other people may not share the same expectations of marriage that they do.

Also Chris Rock pressing charges would be really disappointing, I'm glad he decided to just be the bigger person.

Yeah I agree with all of this.

Also, Chris Rock didn’t write the joke. He just delivered the line that was written for him (which was his job) and it was a pretty tame joke in my opinion. Then he took the slap like a champ with his hands behind his back the whole time. Then he refrained from saying mean crap when you can tell he wanted to for about .5 seconds. Then he just kept the ball rolling. Then he chose not to make a big deal out of some idiot overreacting and didn’t press charges. Perfect job by him. I wouldn’t have done anything different if I was him in that scenario, at least I hope not.

[mocat]

the amazing thing is he never not once ever touched his face. incredible

[Dr Rick Daris]

Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.

[Spracne]

Will smith on the other hand? Woof. I would’ve done a lot of different things there if it were me and it would’ve started with not hitting a nearly 60 year old comedian who was just doing what he was told to do and who also happens to be half my size.

You appear to feel VERY passionately about this.