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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1825 on: October 25, 2011, 12:37:31 PM »
i want some kind of nice restaurant in this thing that is open seven days a week, overlooks the field and has good drink specials.

We could call it Cheers!!!
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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1826 on: October 25, 2011, 01:01:25 PM »

We do have a nice board one of the biggest ones in college football, if you don't want to look at the video board in the NEZ don't sit at the top of the SEZ :dunno:


Why does this guy hate video boards?  Such a weird thing to hate. 


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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1827 on: October 25, 2011, 01:34:16 PM »
Again, "wind loading" and "weight" is PowerTuck cover story, for: Piecemeal and Cheap.   

Sony Jumbotrons were extremely heavy, LED video boards are much lighter.  Large speaker cabinets are essentially giant wind catchers and with huge PA speakers still inside they are extremely heavy as well.   Take all of that out, and start over, instead Weiser would only pony up for taking out the old Sony JumboTron and installing a similar sized LED video board in the same frame, and putting in a new scoreboard beneath.



I can tell you that the weight of the video board is 100% insignificant compared to the surface area subject to wind loading. The weight has absolutely nothing to do with it. But if you increased the size of the NEZ board only a small percentage, say 10% larger, the structural foundation changes required would likely be extremely expensive, due to the increase in the total force of the wind acting on the same structure. Depends on how much extra capacity the foundations are designed for.

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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1828 on: October 25, 2011, 01:35:26 PM »
Who cares?  I say build it.

If it falls, it falls.


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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1829 on: October 25, 2011, 02:11:24 PM »

Who cares?  I say build it.

If it falls, it falls.

I wonder if this is what the a&m morons were thinking when they were building those bonfires?
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« Reply #1830 on: October 25, 2011, 02:15:44 PM »

Who cares?  I say build it.

If it falls, it falls.

I wonder if this is what the a&m morons were thinking when they were building those bonfires?
Whoa whoa whoa. Keep it on your pants there big fella. We still have a couple of weeks till we break out the bonfire jokes. One game at a time bro.

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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1831 on: October 25, 2011, 02:17:22 PM »
I suspect if you re-did the entire structure up there, you could have a larger videoboard, and less surface area than what's up there now.  Huge speaker housings, advertising signs, full matrix scoreboards all create wind loading.  


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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1832 on: October 25, 2011, 02:37:49 PM »
Let's just put huge fans around the video board to counter-act the force applied by high winds.

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« Reply #1833 on: October 25, 2011, 02:47:17 PM »
Let's just put huge fans around the video board to counter-act the force applied by high winds.

I agree . . . really big ones, huge.

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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1834 on: October 25, 2011, 02:47:55 PM »
I saw there were two new pages and thought there would be some big news.  Turns out it was just discussion on wind loading or something.

Disappointing.
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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1835 on: October 25, 2011, 02:49:12 PM »
Let's just put huge fans around the video board to counter-act the force applied by high winds.

I agree . . . really big ones, huge.

This is an idea I can get behind :thumbsup:

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« Reply #1836 on: October 25, 2011, 02:59:23 PM »
i want some kind of nice restaurant in this thing that is open seven days a week, overlooks the field and has good drink specials.

We could call it Cheers!!!


Tobacco Road Sports Cafe in Durham overlooks the Bulls ballpark. It's an awesome place to go even when they aren't playing. They could fill the menu with "Jayhawk Wings", "Hubert 360", "Snyder Sliders" etc. You could sit out on the porch overlooking the BSFS while enjoying a Mcgraw Martini and bs about the ol' times!

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« Reply #1837 on: October 25, 2011, 06:01:54 PM »
KSU should never have a stadium with more than 50K seats.

Agreed.

I don't care if MHK grows to 150K.  Keep that crap a hot ticket, and upgrade seats to premium...turn the top 10 rows of the upper deck to "loge" seating with booze, tv's and waitresses or something.

agree about upgrading/etc. disagree about "hot ticket". i don't care if we are selling tix for ten bucks like we did the first two games, i just want to get as many people in the stadium possible while providing a better upgraded "premium" experience for those that can afford it and want it. no reason you can't do both.

just have enough different price points/options and work the ever loving hell out of them. somebody doesn't care where they sit and just wants a single game tik to get into the game? no prob. here is your cheap ass single game ticket to the game with the worst view in the house. somebody different wants to be able to drink beer during the game? no prob-here you go. somebody wants the best seat possible seat and doesn't care about beer-here is your seat. right here. you def want as many people there as possible though. they have done a great job at that over the past few years with this. whoever is in charge or plans/ticket prices/etc is light years ahead of whoever was doing it ten years ago. kudos to them.

Low stadium IQ, where at the Bill can you buy beer, and how does the AD get around the State Laws regards booze sales on its property?  TIA

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« Reply #1838 on: October 25, 2011, 06:13:23 PM »

Low stadium IQ, where at the Bill can you buy beer, and how does the AD get around the State Laws regards booze sales on its property?  TIA

East Club Level for one.  Didn't ask the guy how it all worked.  :drink:

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« Reply #1839 on: October 25, 2011, 06:15:01 PM »
KSU should never have a stadium with more than 50K seats.

Agreed.

I don't care if MHK grows to 150K.  Keep that crap a hot ticket, and upgrade seats to premium...turn the top 10 rows of the upper deck to "loge" seating with booze, tv's and waitresses or something.

agree about upgrading/etc. disagree about "hot ticket". i don't care if we are selling tix for ten bucks like we did the first two games, i just want to get as many people in the stadium possible while providing a better upgraded "premium" experience for those that can afford it and want it. no reason you can't do both.

just have enough different price points/options and work the ever loving hell out of them. somebody doesn't care where they sit and just wants a single game tik to get into the game? no prob. here is your cheap ass single game ticket to the game with the worst view in the house. somebody different wants to be able to drink beer during the game? no prob-here you go. somebody wants the best seat possible seat and doesn't care about beer-here is your seat. right here. you def want as many people there as possible though. they have done a great job at that over the past few years with this. whoever is in charge or plans/ticket prices/etc is light years ahead of whoever was doing it ten years ago. kudos to them.

Low stadium IQ, where at the Bill can you buy beer, and how does the AD get around the State Laws regards booze sales on its property?  TIA

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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1840 on: October 25, 2011, 06:37:34 PM »
i want some kind of nice restaurant in this thing that is open seven days a week, overlooks the field and has good drink specials.

We could call it Cheers!!!


Tobacco Road Sports Cafe in Durham overlooks the Bulls ballpark. It's an awesome place to go even when they aren't playing. They could fill the menu with "Jayhawk Wings", "Hubert 360", "Snyder Sliders" etc. You could sit out on the porch overlooking the BSFS while enjoying a Mcgraw Martini and bs about the ol' times!

Heard Texas Tech's new addition has a restaurant opened year round.  Since that's kind of our template, i think the odds are pretty good we'll get a restaurant in ours?  :dunno:

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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1841 on: October 25, 2011, 07:12:43 PM »
KSU should never have a stadium with more than 50K seats.

Agreed.

I don't care if MHK grows to 150K.  Keep that crap a hot ticket, and upgrade seats to premium...turn the top 10 rows of the upper deck to "loge" seating with booze, tv's and waitresses or something.

agree about upgrading/etc. disagree about "hot ticket". i don't care if we are selling tix for ten bucks like we did the first two games, i just want to get as many people in the stadium possible while providing a better upgraded "premium" experience for those that can afford it and want it. no reason you can't do both.

just have enough different price points/options and work the ever loving hell out of them. somebody doesn't care where they sit and just wants a single game tik to get into the game? no prob. here is your cheap ass single game ticket to the game with the worst view in the house. somebody different wants to be able to drink beer during the game? no prob-here you go. somebody wants the best seat possible seat and doesn't care about beer-here is your seat. right here. you def want as many people there as possible though. they have done a great job at that over the past few years with this. whoever is in charge or plans/ticket prices/etc is light years ahead of whoever was doing it ten years ago. kudos to them.

Low stadium IQ, where at the Bill can you buy beer, and how does the AD get around the State Laws regards booze sales on its property?  TIA

Have the athletic dept. incorporate itself as a publicly traded company then have the school sell BSFS to the entity for $1 and then the school becomes the majority share holder in the company.

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Re: BSFS Expansion Thread (Renderings on page 53)
« Reply #1842 on: October 25, 2011, 08:23:44 PM »
Let's just put huge fans around the video board to counter-act the force applied by high winds.

I agree . . . really big ones, huge.

This is an idea I can get behind :thumbsup:

Did anyone else think that this meant huge people (fans) at first glance?

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« Reply #1843 on: October 25, 2011, 08:25:22 PM »
i want some kind of nice restaurant in this thing that is open seven days a week, overlooks the field and has good drink specials.

We could call it Cheers!!!


Tobacco Road Sports Cafe in Durham overlooks the Bulls ballpark. It's an awesome place to go even when they aren't playing. They could fill the menu with "Jayhawk Wings", "Hubert 360", "Snyder Sliders" etc. You could sit out on the porch overlooking the BSFS while enjoying a Mcgraw Martini and bs about the ol' times!

Tobacco Road has the WORST bar food in the country, but I like the idea. Would make lots of $...

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« Reply #1844 on: October 25, 2011, 08:25:24 PM »
Would probably be a cheaper altrnative.

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« Reply #1845 on: October 25, 2011, 09:40:12 PM »
i want some kind of nice restaurant in this thing that is open seven days a week, overlooks the field and has good drink specials.

We could call it Cheers!!!


Tobacco Road Sports Cafe in Durham overlooks the Bulls ballpark. It's an awesome place to go even when they aren't playing. They could fill the menu with "Jayhawk Wings", "Hubert 360", "Snyder Sliders" etc. You could sit out on the porch overlooking the BSFS while enjoying a Mcgraw Martini and bs about the ol' times!

Tobacco Road has the WORST bar food in the country, but I like the idea. Would make lots of $...

Their happy hour bar food sucks, but their regular food is pretty good. It may be the most overpriced bar food in the country but far from the worst.

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« Reply #1846 on: October 25, 2011, 10:16:09 PM »
Work behind the bar at So Long Saloon in Aggiville, tonight three gentleman ate at the bar and talked business the entire time.  Talking about bids and overhead costs. Told me they work for a company out of Michigan specializing and stadium construction. Spoke about some big name stadiums that their company has contracts with and said they were in town on business for BSFS. Sounds like what ever happens will be ELITE. FWIW, I also thought they sounded like they plan to add in some hidden costs, don't know the convo I eavesdropped on had anything to do with BSFS.

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« Reply #1847 on: October 25, 2011, 10:23:55 PM »
Work behind the bar at So Long Saloon in Aggiville, tonight three gentleman ate at the bar and talked business the entire time.  Talking about bids and overhead costs. Told me they work for a company out of Michigan specializing and stadium construction. Spoke about some big name stadiums that their company has contracts with and said they were in town on business for BSFS. Sounds like what ever happens will be ELITE. FWIW, I also thought they sounded like they plan to add in some hidden costs, don't know the convo I eavesdropped on had anything to do with BSFS.
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« Reply #1848 on: October 25, 2011, 10:44:59 PM »
Meat goat sports bar.

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« Reply #1849 on: October 25, 2011, 10:49:18 PM »
Were doing a lot of talking about a new screen above Vanier but you know what I really want?  LED ribbons.

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