BSFS Expansion Thread

[EMAW4life-JHL]

I think the money would almost be better spent on something thats going to attract better recruits though.
upgraded practice facilities/ locker room etc.?

That would be a part of the wrap around.  Locker room, training table, workout area, etc. are all a part of this.  The only thing that's not is the indoor practice facility, which is fine at the moment.

good deal. KU recently "upgraded" and i still dont think there facilities look anywhere near as good as ours.

[SkinnyBenny]

I don't give a crap what we do as long as we get rid of the trashy, bushleague metal bleachers they grabbed from City Park and put around the concourse.   

[Belvis Noland]

Definately support more amenities for recruits. 

BUT...

We need to be boosting amenities for SPECTATORS.  We need a better in-game experience.  A big part of this is the facility/venue itself.  Another big part is digital interaction.   

If you haven't gone to a Sporting KC Game, you need to go.  Then, report back.  The game experience in that venue is incredible.  Obviously, it helps that the team is solid.  But, hell, even if they were average, those games would still be fun to go to. 

Small example - sign up for membership number.  every time you purchase anything (ticket, concession, fan gear, etc.) they scan your number and you get points.  Points allow for priority ticket sales, priority seating, discounted tix/merchandise, etc. 

We need to upgrade the stadium.  But, I really hope JC takes the initiative and brings the fan experience into the 21st Century.  We should be on the cutting edge.  Leave schools like little brother in the past.   

[ednksu]

I don't give a crap what we do as long as we get rid of the trashy, bushleague metal bleachers they grabbed from City Park and put around the concourse.   

I take it you've only been a cat fan for 10 years. 

Until you have helped to setup crap-tastic folding chairs in freezing temps STFU. 

Definately support more amenities for recruits. 

BUT...

We need to be boosting amenities for SPECTATORS.  We need a better in-game experience.  A big part of this is the facility/venue itself.  Another big part is digital interaction.   

If you haven't gone to a Sporting KC Game, you need to go.  Then, report back.  The game experience in that venue is incredible.  Obviously, it helps that the team is solid.  But, hell, even if they were average, those games would still be fun to go to. 

Small example - sign up for membership number.  every time you purchase anything (ticket, concession, fan gear, etc.) they scan your number and you get points.  Points allow for priority ticket sales, priority seating, discounted tix/merchandise, etc. 

We need to upgrade the stadium.  But, I really hope JC takes the initiative and brings the fan experience into the 21st Century.  We should be on the cutting edge.  Leave schools like little brother in the past.   

I would be happy with a sound system that is audible

[ksucrcoop]

We need something like U of Illinois...


would look like


with the outside like this, but looking all Hale libraryish 

[MadCat]

We need something like U of Illinois...


would look like


with the outside like this, but looking all Hale libraryish 

I do like the columns on the outside of Illinois' stadium.

[ksucrcoop]

or this


EMABS

[Panjandrum]

In retrospect, I'm very happy with the selection of AECOM.  I mean, really, this is the group that did the Autzen renovation and the Lambeau renovation.  Their designs are really, really cool.

I really hope they find a way to close in the bowl.

[powercat_62]

with the outside like this, but looking all Hale libraryish 

The technical term for "Hale Librayish" is Richardsonian Romanesque for those HAIQ types.

[MakeItRain]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

[eastcat]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

[MakeItRain]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

[eastcat]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

[ChiComCat]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

There is nowhere to put it like this.  If it were on Vanier the end-zone fun zoners wouldn't be able to see it.  And that doesn't sound very fun.  Then you have to change the name of that zone which sounds like a pain in the ass

[Panjandrum]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

It was my understanding that structural limitations of Vanier forced them to put it in the South EZ.  If we were to put it in the NEZ, we would have had to do that stupid looking thing Iowa State did.

[EMAW4life-JHL]

I talked to my friend last night, and he said that a current sticking point is whether or not to "close the bowl".    Pretty much said exactly what everyone said on here.

However, he said that if I wanted to probably see what it would look like if we did it, we should look at the Washington State expansion.  AECOM is doing it as well, and they would probably do almost the exact same thing.



http://www.cougcenter.com/2011/5/4/2152802/martin-stadium-renovation-phase-iii-renderings-photo-bill-moos

this gives me a boner. would really like to see a big fat EMAW sign somewhere like 20 ft by 30 ft

[MakeItRain]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

And where the eff would that be?

[MadCat]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

And where the eff would that be?

Plexiglas field with video screen under...Oregon will do this first.

[WillieWatanabe]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

And where the eff would that be?

hanging in the air, Jerry Jones style.

[eastcat]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

There is nowhere to put it like this.  If it were on Vanier the end-zone fun zoners wouldn't be able to see it.  And that doesn't sound very fun.  Then you have to change the name of that zone which sounds like a pain in the ass

They are having so much fun i'm surprised they would notice.

[EMAW4life-JHL]

eff the vanier fun zone

["storm"nut]

eff the vanier fun zone

You can suck my cheap ass dick

[sonofdaxjones]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

It was my understanding that structural limitations of Vanier forced them to put it in the South EZ.  If we were to put it in the NEZ, we would have had to do that stupid looking thing Iowa State did.

New LED Technology is much lighter.  The old tuck myth strikes again.   Once they got past weight they went on about "wind loading" . . .  well they left the entirety of the old speaker system up there, that weighs a lot, and by design if the wind is howling from either the north or south they catch a lot of wind.   The real answer is that that they cheaped out 5 years ago.   They can take everything down that's up there now, use the even newer, thinner LED panels and put up a videoboard that's much larger than what's up there now.  Certainly not a mega godzilla tron, but a board that's at least double the size of the one now in terms of viewable area.  

I think within the next couple of years, they need to look at moving the existing boards to the baseball stadium (larger one) and track (smaller one) and start over from scratch in the football stadium.  

Also, they need to replace the videoboards on the scoreboard in Bramlage, they likely won't replace the whole thing because they just spent a boatload of money re-doing the timing and scoring system/panels.

[Panjandrum]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

It was my understanding that structural limitations of Vanier forced them to put it in the South EZ.  If we were to put it in the NEZ, we would have had to do that stupid looking thing Iowa State did.

New LED Technology is much lighter.  The old tuck myth strikes again.   Once they got past weight they went on about "wind loading" . . .  well they left the entirety of the old speaker system up there, that weighs a lot, and by design if the wind is howling from either the north or south they catch a lot of wind.   The real answer is that that they cheaped out 5 years ago.   They can take everything down that's up there now, use the even newer, thinner LED panels and put up a videoboard that's much larger than what's up there now.  Certainly not a mega godzilla tron, but a board that's at least double the size of the one now in terms of viewable area.  

I think within the next couple of years, they need to look at moving the existing boards to the baseball stadium (larger one) and track (smaller one) and start over from scratch in the football stadium.  

Also, they need to replace the videoboards on the scoreboard in Bramlage, they likely won't replace the whole thing because they just spent a boatload of money re-doing the timing and scoring system/panels.

Thanks for weighing in on this.

If they were to wrap around the NEZ, they should do exactly what you just said and move a new video board over there so we only need one really nice one.

[MakeItRain]

New video board in the N. Endzone is a must...it's like watching a 23" tv.

No actually it's not.  Very fre stadiums have two big video boards and I can't think of a single 50,000 seat stadium with two.  Complete waste of money to have two big boards for a stadium the size of BSFS.

Its a waste to have 2 boards at all. One huge one in the N. Endzone would be better. Currently the one in the N. Endzone is too small for the people on the south side of the bowl to see it so they have to crane their neck around and look behind them. Steupid planning.

Stupid planning?  At the time that video board went up in the NEZ it was top of the line.  They should have planned decades into the future and built Vanier so that it would one day be able to hold a 7500 square foot video board?

They should have put it where everyone could see it in the first place.

It was my understanding that structural limitations of Vanier forced them to put it in the South EZ.  If we were to put it in the NEZ, we would have had to do that stupid looking thing Iowa State did.

New LED Technology is much lighter.  The old tuck myth strikes again.   Once they got past weight they went on about "wind loading" . . .  well they left the entirety of the old speaker system up there, that weighs a lot, and by design if the wind is howling from either the north or south they catch a lot of wind.   The real answer is that that they cheaped out 5 years ago.   They can take everything down that's up there now, use the even newer, thinner LED panels and put up a videoboard that's much larger than what's up there now.  Certainly not a mega godzilla tron, but a board that's at least double the size of the one now in terms of viewable area.  

I think within the next couple of years, they need to look at moving the existing boards to the baseball stadium (larger one) and track (smaller one) and start over from scratch in the football stadium.  

Also, they need to replace the videoboards on the scoreboard in Bramlage, they likely won't replace the whole thing because they just spent a boatload of money re-doing the timing and scoring system/panels.

Of all people I would think you'd be the last person to ascribe to the Lew Perkins spend tons of money just to spend it model.  We have the 66th biggest stadium yet have the 38th biggest video board.  We have bigger boards than Alabama, Oklahoma State, Clemson, Wisconsin, Stanford, and Tulane.  Every person in the stadium has a clear look at the field or a video board.  There is literally no reason to purchase a new video board until damage or obsolete technology dictates so.  There are much better ways for Kansas State Athletics to spend $5 million.