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Quote from: PowercatPat on May 06, 2014, 08:53:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?We didn't really seem to target top level QB's. Dylan Meier, Allen Webb, Allan Everidge. Woof.oh we targetted them. we just didn't land any. which also goes back to our good coaches leaving.
Quote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?We didn't really seem to target top level QB's. Dylan Meier, Allen Webb, Allan Everidge. Woof.
Forgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?
Quote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?
Quote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.
Quote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?being bill... jfc, you call yourself a cat fan and you ask questions like this?
Quote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?working crazy hard, starting to lose games and promoting Sean.There was a time (still is generally) where a young coach under Snyder got a lot of calls in the offseason. Do you want to run the risk they stop calling after a few below .500 seasons? Also, K-state was paying pretty shitty for assists.
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:02:16 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?working crazy hard, starting to lose games and promoting Sean.There was a time (still is generally) where a young coach under Snyder got a lot of calls in the offseason. Do you want to run the risk they stop calling after a few below .500 seasons? Also, K-state was paying pretty shitty for assists.Also pretty shitty for a head coach.
Quote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:07:43 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:02:16 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?working crazy hard, starting to lose games and promoting Sean.There was a time (still is generally) where a young coach under Snyder got a lot of calls in the offseason. Do you want to run the risk they stop calling after a few below .500 seasons? Also, K-state was paying pretty shitty for assists.Also pretty shitty for a head coach.But a good job for your son and a free ride for your grandson is a nice perk when you are 75
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:10:22 AMQuote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:07:43 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:02:16 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?working crazy hard, starting to lose games and promoting Sean.There was a time (still is generally) where a young coach under Snyder got a lot of calls in the offseason. Do you want to run the risk they stop calling after a few below .500 seasons? Also, K-state was paying pretty shitty for assists.Also pretty shitty for a head coach.But a good job for your son and a free ride for your grandson is a nice perk when you are 75GFP= 3.4mil, Gundy the Man=3mil, Big Game Bob=5.4mil, Art Briles=4mil... do I need to go on.
Quote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:40:57 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:10:22 AMQuote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:07:43 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:02:16 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?working crazy hard, starting to lose games and promoting Sean.There was a time (still is generally) where a young coach under Snyder got a lot of calls in the offseason. Do you want to run the risk they stop calling after a few below .500 seasons? Also, K-state was paying pretty shitty for assists.Also pretty shitty for a head coach.But a good job for your son and a free ride for your grandson is a nice perk when you are 75GFP= 3.4mil, Gundy the Man=3mil, Big Game Bob=5.4mil, Art Briles=4mil... do I need to go on.Yes?
Quote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 09:50:00 AMQuote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:40:57 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:10:22 AMQuote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:07:43 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:02:16 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?working crazy hard, starting to lose games and promoting Sean.There was a time (still is generally) where a young coach under Snyder got a lot of calls in the offseason. Do you want to run the risk they stop calling after a few below .500 seasons? Also, K-state was paying pretty shitty for assists.Also pretty shitty for a head coach.But a good job for your son and a free ride for your grandson is a nice perk when you are 75GFP= 3.4mil, Gundy the Man=3mil, Big Game Bob=5.4mil, Art Briles=4mil... do I need to go on.Yes?OK, LHCBS=2.3mil
Quote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:58:45 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 09:50:00 AMQuote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:40:57 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:10:22 AMQuote from: Katdaddy on May 06, 2014, 09:07:43 AMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on May 06, 2014, 09:02:16 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:54:41 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 08:41:09 AMQuote from: ydarg2012 on May 06, 2014, 08:40:36 AMForgive my ignorance on this point, but what actually fueled the down trend of Snyder's first tenure? I didn't follow as die hard then as I do now and I remember hearing it was because the program started targeting top level recruits. Is that true?all of our good coaches left because they didn't like coaching for him. the recruit targeting BS was just excuse making.What was Bill doing that they didn't like?working crazy hard, starting to lose games and promoting Sean.There was a time (still is generally) where a young coach under Snyder got a lot of calls in the offseason. Do you want to run the risk they stop calling after a few below .500 seasons? Also, K-state was paying pretty shitty for assists.Also pretty shitty for a head coach.But a good job for your son and a free ride for your grandson is a nice perk when you are 75GFP= 3.4mil, Gundy the Man=3mil, Big Game Bob=5.4mil, Art Briles=4mil... do I need to go on.Yes?OK, LHCBS=2.3milThat's the price you pay for hiring your son as an assistant coach.
we should pay Bill $500k. he's not going to retire because he would almost immediately die and he's not going to go coach somewhere else because nobody would have him. he's trapped.
Quote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 10:02:46 AMwe should pay Bill $500k. he's not going to retire because he would almost immediately die and he's not going to go coach somewhere else because nobody would have him. he's trapped.I actually think some down trodden school would hire him, but don't think he would go anywhere else.
Quote from: KITNfury on May 06, 2014, 10:48:03 AMQuote from: steve dave on May 06, 2014, 10:02:46 AMwe should pay Bill $500k. he's not going to retire because he would almost immediately die and he's not going to go coach somewhere else because nobody would have him. he's trapped.I actually think some down trodden school would hire him, but don't think he would go anywhere else.they would have to be pretty downtrodden. and agreed that he wouldn't/couldn't go either way.
If they thought they could have landed him, I could have seen Texas hiring LCBS to "claim the waters." A couple NCs and he enjoys a golden retirement.
Quote from: EMAWzified on May 06, 2014, 03:22:32 PMIf they thought they could have landed him, I could have seen Texas hiring LCBS to "claim the waters." A couple NCs and he enjoys a golden retirement.Even if UT coveted Jake that badly, losing 2 years for intra-conference transferring is a killer.
"I'd say they're towards the top," finished the rising senior with a unique perspective. "I say that because... they're like a girl. If they show enough interest in you and like you that much, you're going to take notice and maybe show the same back.""At the beginning, (K-State) showed me a whole bunch of attention and told me I was near the top of their board, so it would be foolish of me not to continue that relationship."