Football Recruiting Thread

[pissclams]

and some of you refer to the other site as 'tards.  haruumph!


You should have zero concerns about recruiting at the moment.  Defense is the side of the ball to watch with some anxiety this recruiting season but we're in great position with a number of kids.  BTW, even if we don't land your own personal favorite then why freak out?  Let me give you an example as to how Snyder's staff operates:

Two juco DE prospects:

1) Chris Martin - CCSF.  Kid was 5 star everything in high school.  He's even rated as a 4 star now at the moment though big programs are not getting in line to sign him.  He's been contacted a number of times by GPC since last summer and states KSU has mild interest.  He has said many times he "wishes" KSU would recruit him.  He had 4.5 sacks this season and I'm kind of meh about his video on hudl.  Plays high, likely takes plays off....oh, he's definitely a talent but a high risk/reward type IMO.  Guess who wants him?  KU.

2) Arnold Blackmon - Navarro.  He's mister no star and only 6'1 ish and 235ish.  Only a few offers from mid-major type programs.  But guess what?  Kid makes play after play after play.  Non-stop motor, uses his hands, plays at a great heigh level.  Guess who just offered Blackmon?  KSU.

Two examples.  Tards will look at the two and see a 4 star vs. a 2 star and think the failure was on KSU's part.  Then both show up at their respective campuses.  Adam Davis wasn't all that flashy for us this year but he is what the coaches want...an every down effort player who is reliable.  Get some playmakers at a few other positions to surround him and snap, another double digit win season and a championship.

For the record, would I like to see KSU sign a few more highly ranked kids?  Sure.  Does that necessarily translate to wins?  Hell no. 

does it seem weird to you that only Snyder's staff and you can read between the lines like you've done in example above?

[BackPayne]

Manhatter, what are the chances we get Blackmon. They'd have to be pretty high vs. mid-majors.

Why do we have so few of recruits when compared with the rest of the Big12? Flood aggie has 20+.

[Super PurpleCat]

Do we just not even try?

We do but Bill cares two shits about what we look like. In fact I think he tries harder than any coach.

Because injuries did not expose our lack of talented depth this year.

[EMAWmeister]

and some of you refer to the other site as 'tards.  haruumph!


You should have zero concerns about recruiting at the moment.  Defense is the side of the ball to watch with some anxiety this recruiting season but we're in great position with a number of kids.  BTW, even if we don't land your own personal favorite then why freak out?  Let me give you an example as to how Snyder's staff operates:

Two juco DE prospects:

1) Chris Martin - CCSF.  Kid was 5 star everything in high school.  He's even rated as a 4 star now at the moment though big programs are not getting in line to sign him.  He's been contacted a number of times by GPC since last summer and states KSU has mild interest.  He has said many times he "wishes" KSU would recruit him.  He had 4.5 sacks this season and I'm kind of meh about his video on hudl.  Plays high, likely takes plays off....oh, he's definitely a talent but a high risk/reward type IMO.  Guess who wants him?  KU.

2) Arnold Blackmon - Navarro.  He's mister no star and only 6'1 ish and 235ish.  Only a few offers from mid-major type programs.  But guess what?  Kid makes play after play after play.  Non-stop motor, uses his hands, plays at a great heigh level.  Guess who just offered Blackmon?  KSU.

Two examples.  Tards will look at the two and see a 4 star vs. a 2 star and think the failure was on KSU's part.  Then both show up at their respective campuses.  Adam Davis wasn't all that flashy for us this year but he is what the coaches want...an every down effort player who is reliable.  Get some playmakers at a few other positions to surround him and snap, another double digit win season and a championship.

For the record, would I like to see KSU sign a few more highly ranked kids?  Sure.  Does that necessarily translate to wins?  Hell no. 

does it seem weird to you that only Snyder's staff and you can read between the lines like you've done in example above?

A little. But you can pretty much summarize what 'hatter said with the fact that Bill demands full game tapes (particularly their bad games) and not just what HS/JC coaches give him.

[MixBerryCrunch]

and some of you refer to the other site as 'tards.  haruumph!


You should have zero concerns about recruiting at the moment.  Defense is the side of the ball to watch with some anxiety this recruiting season but we're in great position with a number of kids.  BTW, even if we don't land your own personal favorite then why freak out?  Let me give you an example as to how Snyder's staff operates:

Two juco DE prospects:

1) Chris Martin - CCSF.  Kid was 5 star everything in high school.  He's even rated as a 4 star now at the moment though big programs are not getting in line to sign him.  He's been contacted a number of times by GPC since last summer and states KSU has mild interest.  He has said many times he "wishes" KSU would recruit him.  He had 4.5 sacks this season and I'm kind of meh about his video on hudl.  Plays high, likely takes plays off....oh, he's definitely a talent but a high risk/reward type IMO.  Guess who wants him?  KU.

2) Arnold Blackmon - Navarro.  He's mister no star and only 6'1 ish and 235ish.  Only a few offers from mid-major type programs.  But guess what?  Kid makes play after play after play.  Non-stop motor, uses his hands, plays at a great heigh level.  Guess who just offered Blackmon?  KSU.

Two examples.  Tards will look at the two and see a 4 star vs. a 2 star and think the failure was on KSU's part.  Then both show up at their respective campuses.  Adam Davis wasn't all that flashy for us this year but he is what the coaches want...an every down effort player who is reliable.  Get some playmakers at a few other positions to surround him and snap, another double digit win season and a championship.

For the record, would I like to see KSU sign a few more highly ranked kids?  Sure.  Does that necessarily translate to wins?  Hell no. 

does it seem weird to you that only Snyder's staff and you can read between the lines like you've done in example above?

That would make sense if Snyder wasn't consistently turning 2-3 star players into All Big 12 players and NFL talents.

[pissclams]

and some of you refer to the other site as 'tards.  haruumph!


You should have zero concerns about recruiting at the moment.  Defense is the side of the ball to watch with some anxiety this recruiting season but we're in great position with a number of kids.  BTW, even if we don't land your own personal favorite then why freak out?  Let me give you an example as to how Snyder's staff operates:

Two juco DE prospects:

1) Chris Martin - CCSF.  Kid was 5 star everything in high school.  He's even rated as a 4 star now at the moment though big programs are not getting in line to sign him.  He's been contacted a number of times by GPC since last summer and states KSU has mild interest.  He has said many times he "wishes" KSU would recruit him.  He had 4.5 sacks this season and I'm kind of meh about his video on hudl.  Plays high, likely takes plays off....oh, he's definitely a talent but a high risk/reward type IMO.  Guess who wants him?  KU.

2) Arnold Blackmon - Navarro.  He's mister no star and only 6'1 ish and 235ish.  Only a few offers from mid-major type programs.  But guess what?  Kid makes play after play after play.  Non-stop motor, uses his hands, plays at a great heigh level.  Guess who just offered Blackmon?  KSU.

Two examples.  Tards will look at the two and see a 4 star vs. a 2 star and think the failure was on KSU's part.  Then both show up at their respective campuses.  Adam Davis wasn't all that flashy for us this year but he is what the coaches want...an every down effort player who is reliable.  Get some playmakers at a few other positions to surround him and snap, another double digit win season and a championship.

For the record, would I like to see KSU sign a few more highly ranked kids?  Sure.  Does that necessarily translate to wins?  Hell no. 

does it seem weird to you that only Snyder's staff and you can read between the lines like you've done in example above?

That would make sense if Snyder wasn't consistently turning 2-3 star players into All Big 12 players and NFL talents.

pro tip- what would make sense?  i'm not questioning anything.

[MixBerryCrunch]

and some of you refer to the other site as 'tards.  haruumph!


You should have zero concerns about recruiting at the moment.  Defense is the side of the ball to watch with some anxiety this recruiting season but we're in great position with a number of kids.  BTW, even if we don't land your own personal favorite then why freak out?  Let me give you an example as to how Snyder's staff operates:

Two juco DE prospects:

1) Chris Martin - CCSF.  Kid was 5 star everything in high school.  He's even rated as a 4 star now at the moment though big programs are not getting in line to sign him.  He's been contacted a number of times by GPC since last summer and states KSU has mild interest.  He has said many times he "wishes" KSU would recruit him.  He had 4.5 sacks this season and I'm kind of meh about his video on hudl.  Plays high, likely takes plays off....oh, he's definitely a talent but a high risk/reward type IMO.  Guess who wants him?  KU.

2) Arnold Blackmon - Navarro.  He's mister no star and only 6'1 ish and 235ish.  Only a few offers from mid-major type programs.  But guess what?  Kid makes play after play after play.  Non-stop motor, uses his hands, plays at a great heigh level.  Guess who just offered Blackmon?  KSU.

Two examples.  Tards will look at the two and see a 4 star vs. a 2 star and think the failure was on KSU's part.  Then both show up at their respective campuses.  Adam Davis wasn't all that flashy for us this year but he is what the coaches want...an every down effort player who is reliable.  Get some playmakers at a few other positions to surround him and snap, another double digit win season and a championship.

For the record, would I like to see KSU sign a few more highly ranked kids?  Sure.  Does that necessarily translate to wins?  Hell no. 

does it seem weird to you that only Snyder's staff and you can read between the lines like you've done in example above?

That would make sense if Snyder wasn't consistently turning 2-3 star players into All Big 12 players and NFL talents.

pro tip- what would make sense?  i'm not questioning anything.

My apologies.

[The Manhatter]

and some of you refer to the other site as 'tards.  haruumph!


You should have zero concerns about recruiting at the moment.  Defense is the side of the ball to watch with some anxiety this recruiting season but we're in great position with a number of kids.  BTW, even if we don't land your own personal favorite then why freak out?  Let me give you an example as to how Snyder's staff operates:

Two juco DE prospects:

1) Chris Martin - CCSF.  Kid was 5 star everything in high school.  He's even rated as a 4 star now at the moment though big programs are not getting in line to sign him.  He's been contacted a number of times by GPC since last summer and states KSU has mild interest.  He has said many times he "wishes" KSU would recruit him.  He had 4.5 sacks this season and I'm kind of meh about his video on hudl.  Plays high, likely takes plays off....oh, he's definitely a talent but a high risk/reward type IMO.  Guess who wants him?  KU.

2) Arnold Blackmon - Navarro.  He's mister no star and only 6'1 ish and 235ish.  Only a few offers from mid-major type programs.  But guess what?  Kid makes play after play after play.  Non-stop motor, uses his hands, plays at a great heigh level.  Guess who just offered Blackmon?  KSU.

Two examples.  Tards will look at the two and see a 4 star vs. a 2 star and think the failure was on KSU's part.  Then both show up at their respective campuses.  Adam Davis wasn't all that flashy for us this year but he is what the coaches want...an every down effort player who is reliable.  Get some playmakers at a few other positions to surround him and snap, another double digit win season and a championship.

For the record, would I like to see KSU sign a few more highly ranked kids?  Sure.  Does that necessarily translate to wins?  Hell no. 

does it seem weird to you that only Snyder's staff and you can read between the lines like you've done in example above?

If Snyder's staff were the only ones then it would feel weird but that isn't the case.  Programs like Boise and TCU work the same way.  That is why the program folks should look out for is TCU.  They played a ton of freshman this year and still had the conference's best defense.  They're typically even better on that side of the ball.  Offensively they were a train wreck due to some injuries, boozing, and a lot of new personnel.  They are very much like KSU, especially 90s and early 2000s KSU, only they have more nearby resources in terms of a talent base.

[felix rex]

SNAP, ANOTHER DOUBLE DIGIT WIN SEASON AND A CHAMPIONSHIP

[sjmickelson]

and some of you refer to the other site as 'tards.  haruumph!


You should have zero concerns about recruiting at the moment.  Defense is the side of the ball to watch with some anxiety this recruiting season but we're in great position with a number of kids.  BTW, even if we don't land your own personal favorite then why freak out?  Let me give you an example as to how Snyder's staff operates:

Two juco DE prospects:

1) Chris Martin - CCSF.  Kid was 5 star everything in high school.  He's even rated as a 4 star now at the moment though big programs are not getting in line to sign him.  He's been contacted a number of times by GPC since last summer and states KSU has mild interest.  He has said many times he "wishes" KSU would recruit him.  He had 4.5 sacks this season and I'm kind of meh about his video on hudl.  Plays high, likely takes plays off....oh, he's definitely a talent but a high risk/reward type IMO.  Guess who wants him?  KU.

2) Arnold Blackmon - Navarro.  He's mister no star and only 6'1 ish and 235ish.  Only a few offers from mid-major type programs.  But guess what?  Kid makes play after play after play.  Non-stop motor, uses his hands, plays at a great heigh level.  Guess who just offered Blackmon?  KSU.

Two examples.  Tards will look at the two and see a 4 star vs. a 2 star and think the failure was on KSU's part.  Then both show up at their respective campuses.  Adam Davis wasn't all that flashy for us this year but he is what the coaches want...an every down effort player who is reliable.  Get some playmakers at a few other positions to surround him and snap, another double digit win season and a championship.

For the record, would I like to see KSU sign a few more highly ranked kids?  Sure.  Does that necessarily translate to wins?  Hell no.

Well put.

[Doomagon]

Really want this martin kid, sounds like hes the "real deal"    #c-mart

[sjmickelson]

From Nick Marshall's twitter account regarding possible future schools:

"Kansas state Indiana Texas Texas tech Colorado Florida international Auburn an yea I'm playing QB this time"

[sjmickelson]

From Nick Marshall's twitter account regarding possible future schools:

"Kansas state Indiana Texas Texas tech Colorado Florida international Auburn an yea I'm playing QB this time"

And quite frankly, reading between the lines, that order is probably pretty close to accurate.

[bubbles4ksu]

the world is not ready for our 2 qb offense.

[steve dave]

Rodriguez Coleman ?@RespectMe_FaF
Dam I'm really conversating wit the legend Charlie weis!!!!

[BackPayne]

Rodriguez Coleman ?@RespectMe_FaF
Dam I'm really conversating wit the legend Charlie weis!!!!

Wouldn't kicking his ass be more fun?

[TheHamburglar]

Rodriguez Coleman ?@RespectMe_FaF
Dam I'm really conversating wit the legend Charlie weis!!!!

 

[troubledscribe]

As a former Juco player myself (Baseball), It blows my mind anyone would consider KU, after what Weis did to the Senior class this year. One bad year as a Juco player at the next level and you will never get a shot again, especially with Weis.

[steve dave]

as a complete stud message boarder myself (ksufans, goEMAW, it goes on) I agree with you troubledscribe, but he's doing something right because he's out recruiting the crap out of us (along with everyone else)

[Jackie K.]

Troubled scribe-what juco and what yrs?

[troubledscribe]

Fort Scott CC 09 and 10.  I am getting a bit more positive on some of our commits and prospects though, think it will round up to be a decent class if we sign a few more key defensive players.

[catzacker]

as a complete stud message boarder myself (ksufans, goEMAW, it goes on) I agree with you troubledscribe, but he's doing something right because he's out recruiting the crap out of us (along with everyone else)

Mangino did the same thing.  I give more credit to our coaches being complete eff ups than I do to Weis being awesome.  It's watching special olympians try to compete in the real olympics.

[jtksu]

as a complete stud message boarder myself (ksufans, goEMAW, it goes on) I agree with you troubledscribe, but he's doing something right because he's out recruiting the crap out of us (along with everyone else)

Mangino did the same thing.  I give more credit to our coaches being complete eff ups than I do to Weis being awesome.  It's watching special olympians try to compete in the real olympics.

Except the special olympians are actually kicking the regular olympians asses.  Maybe we're that one guy with the cool blade things for feet?!

[Benja]

I had an interesting conversation with an athletic trainer the other day. We were talking about how in this day and age the separation between the big time recruits and the five heart guys is smaller than ever due to the huge amount of advances in athletic training programs/nutrition/etc. It's much easier to turn a 2 star into a 3 and a 3 into a 4 from an athletic ability standpoint.

For this reason BS's recruiting philosophy  of focusing on player development over recruiting rankings actually works better than ever.

Thought that was very interesting.

[bucket]

I had an interesting conversation with an athletic trainer the other day. We were talking about how in this day and age the separation between the big time recruits and the five heart guys is smaller than ever due to the huge amount of advances in athletic training programs/nutrition/etc. It's much easier to turn a 2 star into a 3 and a 3 into a 4 from an athletic ability standpoint.

For this reason BS's recruiting philosophy  of focusing on player development over recruiting rankings actually works better than ever.

Thought that was very interesting.

not really