Coaching Search Master Thread (now featuring worst possible choice oscar weber)

[michigancat]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood. 

Oh, he was very close? How nice.

[sonofdaxjones]

Okay, you're selling Jank on "he wouldn't be my first choice".

[TheHamburglar]

The next person that mentions Jankovich gets their account deleted.

It's going to be Jank.   

[kougar24]

You're setting your next coach up for failure if that's the case.

Currie set us up for failure.

Jank would be terrible.

[OregonSmock]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood. 

Oh, he was very close? How nice.

Boyle made the tournament this year and beat 6-seed UNLV in the round of 64, yet you hate him as well.  If his name isn't oscar or Frank, you pretty much hate the thought of it. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Thant and because dax wanted him in 2009 after almost back dooring the cats out of the NIT.

Did I?  Don't remember.

[kougar24]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood. 

Oh, he was very close? How nice.

Boyle made the tournament this year and beat 6-seed UNLV in the round of 64, yet you hate him as well.  If his name isn't oscar or Frank, you pretty much hate the thought of it. 

Boyle wouldn't even have been in the same zip code as the bubble this year had he not won the weakest major conference tourney in the history of mankind.

[michigancat]

If his name isn't oscar or Frank, you pretty much hate the thought of it. 

This is pretty much accurate and I have no problem with it.

[OregonSmock]

Okay, you're selling Jank on "he wouldn't be my first choice".

Nah, I just think he'd be a decent, not great, hire.  I'd have Buzz Williams #1 on my list.  Tad Boyle #2.  Jank would be a 3rd or 4th option, but I could see him being just as successful as Martin if he hired some quality assistants. 


 

[kougar24]

If his name isn't oscar or Frank, you pretty much hate the thought of it. 

This is pretty much accurate and I have no problem with it.

Don't forget Josh!

[michigancat]

If his name isn't oscar or Frank, you pretty much hate the thought of it. 

This is pretty much accurate and I have no problem with it.

Don't forget Josh!

well, there are lots of unrealistic candidates I'd obviously be very happy with. And I'm pretty much off the undy train. It just makes me sad.

[OregonSmock]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood. 

Oh, he was very close? How nice.

Boyle made the tournament this year and beat 6-seed UNLV in the round of 64, yet you hate him as well.  If his name isn't oscar or Frank, you pretty much hate the thought of it. 

Boyle wouldn't even have been in the same zip code as the bubble this year had he not won the weakest major conference tourney in the history of mankind.

He should have been in the tournament last year as well, but he was victim to one of the worst tournament snubs in history.  3-0 vs. Frank.  Two 4-stars on their way to Colorado.  48 wins in two years.  But hey, his name isn't Frank Martin, so he sucks.

[Ira Hayes]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood.

Jank would be worse than hiring Underwood.

[PowercatPat]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood.

Jank would be worse than hiring Underwood.

I agree.

[Cire]

48 wins in 2 years is meaningless beems he can schedule 28 wins in 2 years.

[michigancat]

I said it when we hired Frank, but I think an unproven coach is better than proven mediocrity. Wooldridge followed by Frank should have taught everyone that.

[OregonSmock]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood.

Jank would be worse than hiring Underwood.

Okay, using your logic, a Bill Self former assistant with head coaching experience is worse than hiring a Frank Martin assistant with no head coaching experience (at the D-1 level).  Awesome.

[MichiganisGood]

I couldn't help but notice that Tommy Amaker was quickly shot down as prospective candidate..

As a lifelong Michigan fan, I can promise you that you could do a hell of a lot worse than Tommy.. True, he never quite lived up to the "Black Coack K" billing that he was hire under, but considering the circumstances I thought he did a good job..

He took Seton Hall to their 1st NCAA tournament after a long drought and landed the #2 recruiting class in the country while he was there..

At Michigan his first 2 years were basically throw aways as we were in the middle of crippling sanctions and fielding a team that consisted mostly of walk ons.. His 3rd year, we won 23 games and would have been lock for the tourney had it not been for our post season ban.. His 4th year was the most disappointing, with the postseason ban lifted and most of the previous years team returning, we went 13-18.. However, our star PG was suspended for the season and our 2nd best player had blown out his knee in the preseason.. Once our C went down midseason we were basically screwed as the scholarship restrictions of the previous years caught back up to us..

The following 2 seasons we won 22 games and were squarely on the bubble only to be denied by the committee..

Tommy was an excellent recruiter, we had NCAA sanctions, no facilities (Crisler arena was the only indoor court on campus, hadn't been renovated since the 60's and we shared it with the womens teams), and had 3 5* players decommit at the last minute (Joe Crawford, Malik Hairston, Alex Legion)..

Despite all that Tommy was able to bring in a lot of talent..

4* Daniel Horton
4* Courtney Sims
4* Lester Abrams
4* Brent Petway
4* Dion Harris
4* Deshaun Sims
5* Manny Harris

He's no oscar Pearl, granted, but he's a much better option than some of the other candidates I've heard mentioned here.. He's a big reason why Michigan bball is back to being a yearly competitor in the big 10 conference with all brand new facilities after the Ed Martin Scandal, despite never personally being able to get over the NCAA hump..

[steve dave]

Yes, roll those rough ridin' dice if need be KState. ROLL THEM!

[OregonSmock]

Tommy Amaker would be a great hire, but steve dave hates him because he doesn't coach at a "real school."


 

[michigancat]

If you have to introduce a coach by saying "you could do a lot worse" just turn around and get the eff out of my office and never come back.

[michigancat]

Okay, using your logic, a Bill Self former assistant with head coaching experience is worse than hiring a Frank Martin assistant with no head coaching experience (at the D-1 level).  Awesome.

It is when the head coaching experience has been decidedly mediocre, at best.

[Ira Hayes]

0 NCAA tournament appearances

Was very close this year and in '08-09.  K-State needed overtime to beat Illinois State at home a few years ago in the NIT.  Not saying Jank would be my first choice, but JFC, you guys act like he'd be worse than hiring Underwood.

Jank would be worse than hiring Underwood.

Okay, using your logic, a Bill Self former assistant with head coaching experience is worse than hiring a Frank Martin assistant with no head coaching experience (at the D-1 level).  Awesome.

I would give the edge to Underwood because he is familiar and liked by our players, recruits, staff, and boosters. Keeping players and not immediately sucking next year is important. If we were talking about an opening at KU, then yeah.  Jank or Tad are probably a better choice.

[OregonSmock]

Okay, using your logic, a Bill Self former assistant with head coaching experience is worse than hiring a Frank Martin assistant with no head coaching experience (at the D-1 level).  Awesome.

It is when the head coaching experience has been decidedly mediocre, at best.

Seemed to work out pretty well for Mizzou and Frank Haith.


 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Okay, using your logic, a Bill Self former assistant with head coaching experience is worse than hiring a Frank Martin assistant with no head coaching experience (at the D-1 level).  Awesome.

It is when the head coaching experience has been decidedly mediocre, at best.

Seemed to work out pretty well for Mizzou and Frank Haith.


 

A conference tournament title would be nice, but losing in the first round is nothing to write home about. We will see if Haith can succeed with his own players.