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Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« on: February 05, 2011, 09:16:25 PM »
Just seems if you can't slash to the basket you can't score with this.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 09:19:02 PM »
i think it hurts mcgruder the most.  it should help the posts, except maybe jhr, who might not be able to handle catching and moving at the same time.  russell should benefit as much as anyone, if he gets minutes.
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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 10:14:18 PM »
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Here is a proven offense geared to teams that lack the quality big man. The High Post, more than any other offense, allows you to utilize the skills of your smaller players. By having four interchangeable positions and opening the floor to cutters, this offense will suit coaches from junior high to the intercollegiate level. With today's pressure defenses, it is extremely important to incorporate an offense with back cuts and driving opportunities. The High Post Offense fulfills these needs.
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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2011, 10:18:15 PM »
This seems like an odd time to be bitching about the offense.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 11:19:20 PM »
Threes are fools gold.
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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 11:27:07 PM »
Put McOrebs at the high post? and keep JHR's ass on a wing when he is the only big. Grudz can make lay-ups, rebound, and pass.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2011, 12:39:18 AM »
Seems like putting your post player (JO) in the high post position would make sense here.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 12:46:21 AM »
Seems like putting your post player (JO) in the high post position would make sense here.

Also seems like having someone that can actually hold on to the ball in rebounding situations would make sense as well. Grudz hasn't been doing much in this offense. I've seen JO lose some rebounds and have a phenomenal dunk. I've seen Rodney have a similar dunk with two hands last year. Having JO on one side would take away a big man from one side of the court and that would open up the lane for drives on the opposing side. JO does being tall the best.

I'm not saying this makes conventional sense, but when JO is our only big on the court, I'd rather have our best offensive rebounder near the basket. I'm not saying my plan is bullet proof. It's just an idea.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2011, 08:15:19 AM »
there is nothing more beautiful than 95 going to the rim with it.  nothing. 

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2011, 11:59:28 AM »
Seems like putting your post player (JO) in the high post position would make sense here.

+1

Henriquez with his back to the basket (far away from the basket) is our best offensive positioning for him. Tall enough to see the floor, not a horrible passer, and he'll be sure to not shoot (except for the times he drives the lane and dunks on bitches).

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2011, 12:30:41 PM »
I waiting for JHR to start taking some late-night like 3s.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2011, 12:33:02 PM »
Seems like putting your post player (JO) in the high post position would make sense here.

+1

Henriquez with his back to the basket (far away from the basket) is our best offensive positioning for him. Tall enough to see the floor, not a horrible passer, and he'll be sure to not shoot (except for the times he drives the lane and dunks on bitches).

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2011, 04:56:58 PM »
there is nothing more beautiful than 95 going to the rim with it.  nothing. 

It's gorgeous, you can really see all of his 95 eval points at work. All I wish is that he would wear a headband or an armsleeve (both?) or maybe some knee-high socks. Maybe it will come in time.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2011, 05:17:10 PM »
95s 360 spin in the lane yesterday  :love:

I mean seriously, there's no one in the league who can guard him.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2011, 09:16:48 PM »
A "the new offense was built to destroy KU" talking point needs to be developed, run with... 

1.22 points per possession, 62.5% eFG%; ridiculous.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2011, 09:30:28 PM »
A "the new offense was built to destroy KU" talking point needs to be developed, run with... 

1.22 points per possession, 62.5% eFG%; ridiculous.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2011, 09:34:22 PM »
Wish Nick could play more, that 1 drive he had was nice.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2011, 09:50:03 PM »
A "the new offense was built to destroy KU" talking point needs to be developed, run with... 

1.22 points per possession, 62.5% eFG%; ridiculous.

Looking at the recruitment of Jones and the assumption that Lawrence will come to KSU on scholarship, I wonder if this is something the coaches want to do long term?

This team has a lot of guys in the 6'4-6'6" range that are long and can defend.  As long as you have a good post guy to distribute the ball from the high post (JHR was glorious at this yesterday), it seems like this is something our roster next year, and the year after, is kind of set up for.

I think there are some serious benefits to recruiting a bunch of swingmen (which we've never had difficulty with) and tall combo guards at this level.  On defense, they looked like they could swarm, and on offense, it seemed like the speed at which they moved around on offense really caused KU problems down low.  Maybe this offense is a good long term strategy with the players we seem to bring in on a consistent basis?

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2011, 10:35:32 PM »
Seems like putting your post player (JO) in the high post position would make sense here.

Also seems like having someone that can actually hold on to the ball in rebounding situations would make sense as well. Grudz hasn't been doing much in this offense. I've seen JO lose some rebounds and have a phenomenal dunk. I've seen Rodney have a similar dunk with two hands last year. Having JO on one side would take away a big man from one side of the court and that would open up the lane for drives on the opposing side. JO does being tall the best.

I'm not saying this makes conventional sense, but when JO is our only big on the court, I'd rather have our best offensive rebounder near the basket. I'm not saying my plan is bullet proof. It's just an idea.

So you think it's more valuable to put a jump shooter on the high post because he had a tip dunk once?  I don't know why people want to make Rodney something he isn't.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2011, 10:46:01 PM »
Seems like putting your post player (JO) in the high post position would make sense here.

Also seems like having someone that can actually hold on to the ball in rebounding situations would make sense as well. Grudz hasn't been doing much in this offense. I've seen JO lose some rebounds and have a phenomenal dunk. I've seen Rodney have a similar dunk with two hands last year. Having JO on one side would take away a big man from one side of the court and that would open up the lane for drives on the opposing side. JO does being tall the best.

I'm not saying this makes conventional sense, but when JO is our only big on the court, I'd rather have our best offensive rebounder near the basket. I'm not saying my plan is bullet proof. It's just an idea.

So you think it's more valuable to put a jump shooter on the high post because he had a tip dunk once?  I don't know why people want to make Rodney something he isn't.

It was a Two (2) handed dunk!

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2011, 10:49:22 PM »
no bitches below though  :dunno:
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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2011, 11:37:55 PM »
Wish Nick could play more, that 1 drive he had was nice.

Yeah, it was. That's like his fav thing the the world to do. Recognize a situation where he can get the first step on a pair of defenders looking for the kick outside and then BOOM roasted



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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2011, 11:47:43 PM »
LBBIQ opinion here:

All of our guards seems to have at least "decent" ability to do something when driving with the basketball. None can just blow by you, but multiple times it seems that when they (Irving/Russell/Sprads to a lesser extent) get a bit of a lane and they attack they can create their own shot once in the lane.

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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2011, 12:11:14 AM »
LBBIQ opinion here:

All of our guards seems to have at least "decent" ability to do something when driving with the basketball. None can just blow by you, but multiple times it seems that when they (Irving/Russell/Sprads to a lesser extent) get a bit of a lane and they attack they can create their own shot once in the lane.

Irving and Sprads I disagree with. Thing with Nick is you don't realize how big he is until he is screaming down the lane at warp speed. He leaves no choice but to foul hard or let him go. Sprads will look to dish, Irving can kinda make things happen... But neither to the extent that I believe Nick, 95 and Canada can. Jmlbbiqo



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Re: Does the new offense hurt everybody but jake and 95?
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2011, 01:40:27 AM »
A "the new offense was built to destroy KU" talking point needs to be developed, run with... 

1.22 points per possession, 62.5% eFG%; ridiculous.

Looking at the recruitment of Jones and the assumption that Lawrence will come to KSU on scholarship, I wonder if this is something the coaches want to do long term?

This team has a lot of guys in the 6'4-6'6" range that are long and can defend.  As long as you have a good post guy to distribute the ball from the high post (JHR was glorious at this yesterday), it seems like this is something our roster next year, and the year after, is kind of set up for.

I think there are some serious benefits to recruiting a bunch of swingmen (which we've never had difficulty with) and tall combo guards at this level.  On defense, they looked like they could swarm, and on offense, it seemed like the speed at which they moved around on offense really caused KU problems down low.  Maybe this offense is a good long term strategy with the players we seem to bring in on a consistent basis?

i think this is what huggins has always tried to do