Anyone else notice the correlation of JO playing and losing the lead?

[kougar24]

I would rather have  JO than not have him, if you dissagree you should be tested and watched closely.

I agree, but that's an indictment on our recruiting, not an endorsement of JO. Just because we need him doesn't mean he's good.

Do you expect us to have 4 posts that each score 15 points a game?

Of course not. Don't act like he's even in that ballpark.

I'm not, but I don't expect him to be. But I do expect him to block shots and get rebounds. Even with the frustrating balls off his poor hands, he does this very well. I just want JHR to do what he needs to to be effective for us, and he does that.

I'll never be able to look past this.

[kso_FAN]

I'll never be able to look past this.

Fair enough. I beleive sys has said before that if this is the case, the problem is with the poster (you) and not with JHR.

[kougar24]

I'll never be able to look past this.

Fair enough. I beleive sys has said before that if this is the case, the problem is with the poster (you) and not with JHR.

Psh, I don't care. I hate watching him play basketball. He can hate my posting. It's cool.

[steve dave]

_FAN's brutal defense (brutal to other posters, not brutal BBSing) of JHR is very entertaining.  

[kso_FAN]

_FAN's brutal defense (brutal to other posters, not brutal BBSing) of JHR is very entertaining. 

It is what it is. JHR isn't even one of the top 7 or 8 players on this team, but he's probably in the top 2 to 3 of doing what he's supposed to do. Every team needs guys that do that. That's all I'm trying to say on JHR and I hope people get that.

[wildfratcountry]

more importantly, anyone else notice the correlation of JO playing and increased confusion about his boyish man child body?

[jtksu]

I have no idea WTF that even means.

[hemmy]

I have no idea WTF that even means.

Well, you are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

[nicname]

You know who would make this team ridiculously better?  Darren Kent.  Speaking of, got a pic of one of our posters basically slow dancing with him in the concourse 

I remember watching DK shut down craig brackins in Ames a couple years ago.  Great night.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think JO has a higher ceiling than anybody else on the team. He's a 7 footer who is willing to attack the basket aggressively, and that is pretty rare. Will he ever reach his potential? Doubtful, but it seems pretty dumb to hate on him as a sophomore.

['taterblast]

one dribble from beyond the free throw line. ONE rough ridin' DRIBBLE.
 

[Trim]

I would rather have  JO than not have him, if you dissagree you should be tested and watched closely.

We would be in a world of crap if we didn't have him.  I'm not going to stop mentioning his shitty hands just because of that fact though.

Can't decide if this reminds me more of Carson Hate arguments or Huggs Hate arguments.

[sys]

I think JO has a higher ceiling than anybody else on the team. He's a 7 footer who is willing to attack the basket aggressively, and that is pretty rare. Will he ever reach his potential? Doubtful, but it seems pretty dumb to hate on him as a sophomore.

if he was 6'6", 260 with great hands would you think he had a lower ceiling?

[wabash909]

I would rather have  JO than not have him, if you dissagree you should be tested and watched closely.

Yeah, who is going to play when (not if) Kelly and Samuels get in foul trouble.

Again, he played 12 minutes. Most of those b/c Frank had to put him in b/c he had no other options.

He's doing fine for what he's asked to do. Yes, the balls that go off his hands can be maddening and his missed bunnies (6 shots was too many for JHR) were frustrating, but overall he did some nice things on both the offensive and defensive ends of the floor.

Seriously, why the JO hate?  Yes, he sucks at basketball for the most part, but it's not his fault that the front line players we have on this team are insanely stupid and he's depended on to fill their minutes while they sit on the bench for a myriad of reasons, predominately foul trouble. 

All in all, JO did a comendable job today.  He is what he is - a minutes filler.  If he can continue to develop his game offensively, there are a lot of positives that he can bring for us.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I think JO has a higher ceiling than anybody else on the team. He's a 7 footer who is willing to attack the basket aggressively, and that is pretty rare. Will he ever reach his potential? Doubtful, but it seems pretty dumb to hate on him as a sophomore.

if he was 6'6", 260 with great hands would you think he had a lower ceiling?

Yes. Having great hands already would leave less room for improvement, and he wouldn't have the same length advantage that he has now. Seriously, JO is very raw, but when he does something right, he looks really good doing it.

[catzacker]

The whole JO story isn't truly told, though, until we get a stat for # of rebounds that bounce off his hands.

he has really bad hands.

awful

this is really the only thing I hate about him.

[CNS]

I think JO has a higher ceiling than anybody else on the team. He's a 7 footer who is willing to attack the basket aggressively, and that is pretty rare. Will he ever reach his potential? Doubtful, but it seems pretty dumb to hate on him as a sophomore.

if he was 6'6", 260 with great hands would you think he had a lower ceiling?

Yes. Having great hands already would leave less room for improvement, and he wouldn't have the same length advantage that he has now. Seriously, JO is very raw, but when he does something right, he looks really good doing it.

I agree with this.  JO's height and mentality could make him the only eventual NBA'er on this team.  The NBA has had some real shitty 7'+'ers in the past. 
As far as career ceiling goes, I agree.

[kougar24]

The whole JO story isn't truly told, though, until we get a stat for # of rebounds that bounce off his hands.

he has really bad hands.

awful

this is really the only thing I hate about him.

Me too, but I hate it a lot. Well, I also hate his repeated misses from 4 feet in.

[catzacker]

The whole JO story isn't truly told, though, until we get a stat for # of rebounds that bounce off his hands.

he has really bad hands.

awful

this is really the only thing I hate about him.

Me too, but I hate it a lot. Well, I also hate his repeated misses from 4 feet in.

meh.  i'm fine with his colon-like offensive ability, just needs better hands (i.e. more rebounds).

[EMAWzified]

I've never really looked at his hands but got to believe they are huge but maybe not strong. Much more a problem of anticipation and playing at game speed, IMO.
I liked the two identical little forward-leaning hooks or floaters yesterday, neither of which went in. Promise in them, I think.
Anyway, I'm a JHR fan and always have been.

[SkinnyBenny]

Jordan Henriquez-Roberts has coffee cups for hands.  (Stole that from kats65, my game buddy.)
 

[CrushNasty]

His skill set reminds me of Luis.

Not body type, not being a starter vs. 4th off the bench, but the way he plays.

[Clevey 2 Times]

I think JO has a higher ceiling than anybody else on the team. He's a 7 footer who is willing to attack the basket aggressively, and that is pretty rare. Will he ever reach his potential? Doubtful, but it seems pretty dumb to hate on him as a sophomore.

if he was 6'6", 260 with great hands would you think he had a lower ceiling?

Yes. Having great hands already would leave less room for improvement, and he wouldn't have the same length advantage that he has now. Seriously, JO is very raw, but when he does something right, he looks really good doing it.

I agree with this.  JO's height and mentality could make him the only eventual NBA'er on this team.  The NBA has had some real cacty 7'+'ers in the past.  
As far as career ceiling goes, I agree.

Highest ceiling on the team? Wow, just wow.

NBA, umm no.

Also, there is really nothing on the basketball floor that he "looks really good doing". Henriquez will not be as good as Paul Miller was for the Shockers.

I thought he played well for a guy wearing clown shoes and spraying ISU fans with his trick, squirt gun flower pinned to his jersey during media timeouts.

Seriously, Pervis Pasco is better.

[CNS]

I think JO has a higher ceiling than anybody else on the team. He's a 7 footer who is willing to attack the basket aggressively, and that is pretty rare. Will he ever reach his potential? Doubtful, but it seems pretty dumb to hate on him as a sophomore.

if he was 6'6", 260 with great hands would you think he had a lower ceiling?

Yes. Having great hands already would leave less room for improvement, and he wouldn't have the same length advantage that he has now. Seriously, JO is very raw, but when he does something right, he looks really good doing it.

I agree with this.  JO's height and mentality could make him the only eventual NBA'er on this team.  The NBA has had some real cacty 7'+'ers in the past.  
As far as career ceiling goes, I agree.

Highest ceiling on the team? Wow, just wow.

NBA, umm no.

Also, there is really nothing on the basketball floor that he "looks really good doing". Henriquez will not be as good as Paul Miller was for the Shockers.

I thought he played well for a guy wearing clown shoes and spraying ISU fans with his trick, squirt gun flower pinned to his jersey during media timeouts.

Seriously, Pervis Pasco is better.

yes he looks awkward.  the nba has had many shitty players on benches simply due to them being over seven foot tall.  not saying that he willbe remarkable, but his height could get him on a roster for a year or two.  especially if he develops more in the next two years.

I dont see anyone else on our team that will get some equivalent or better career oppy.  therefore, yes, it is possible for jordan to have the highest career ceiling on this team.

[michigancat]

Pervis Pasco was really good. He would most likely be a starter on any KSU team since he left.