Author Topic: Our roster next year (barring any other defections) (Read 5075 times)

nicname · « **on:** January 31, 2011, 11:58:09 PM »

Lead type Guards:
Peterson - SR. ** (I'm not sure what he was coming from HS.) seems talented
Myles - SR.
Irving - JR. ***
Spradling - SO. ***
Angel - Fr. *** (fringe 150)

Bigger, two type guards and Swingmen:
Rodney - JR. **** (20/84)
Russell - JR. *** (21/119)
Southwell - SO. *** (25/131)
Nino - FR. ****

Bigs/ Posts
Jamar - SR. ***
JHR - JR. ***
Gipson - Fr. *** (24/142)
Diaz - Fr. *** (17/145)

Assuming these are "buy in" type guys and Frank learns and grows a bit himself, we look to have a decent mix of experienced players and talented (not uber-talented) young players. Paired with lowered expectations does anyone see this team being similar to the 06-07 and 08-09 squads but hopefully able to get over the hump and go dancing? Trying to see positives here.

Pett · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2011, 12:00:13 AM »

I hate it how Frank gets away with the "we're young" excuse every season. but it is kind true since he cuts at least one player per class.

nicname · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2011, 12:04:55 AM »

Quote from: Pett on February 01, 2011, 12:00:13 AM

I hate it how Frank gets away with the "we're young" excuse every season. but it is kind true since he cuts at least one player per class.

Looking at the roster, I don't see that being a valid explanation for any miscues next season.

We should have upperclassmen/ leader types at every position, and the underclassmen aside from the freshmen, ie. Spradling and Southwell, should all have a lot of game experience.

Maybe this is the type of team Frank envisioned when he said, "that job is going to get done."

PowercatPat · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2011, 08:16:38 AM »

I think Nino will be good.

The1BigWillie · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2011, 08:42:32 AM »

1. I think Myles will be a jr.
2. Our bigs are going to get destroyed.

cas4ksu · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2011, 09:55:24 AM »

**Omari Lawrence

CNS · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2011, 10:16:23 AM »

Very weak Sr class. Especially as leadership goes.

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2011, 10:28:58 AM »

Quote from: nicname on January 31, 2011, 11:58:09 PM

Lead type Guards:
Peterson - SR. ** (I'm not sure what he was coming from HS.) seems talented

You don't know what Peterson was coming from HS? C'mon man! 95!

ESPN might have overrated him a bit, but I don't see the harm in getting him more PT this year. I don't think it will reduce our overall level of play this year and we might as well start preparing to try to slide off that bubble next year.

W-Cat · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2011, 10:44:52 AM »

What about Willie Reed transfering in from Saint Louis. Is that a no go now? Seems like we could really use him.

jtksu · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2011, 10:51:32 AM »

No, Reed is back @ SLU.

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2011, 10:52:28 AM »

Quote from: W-Cat on February 01, 2011, 10:44:52 AM

What about Willie Reed transfering in from Saint Louis. Is that a no go now? Seems like we could really use him.

Of course not, when it comes to the KSU Cats this year, what can go wrong, will go wrong.

(Some guy on GPC said the family had reconsidered about him going back to SLU after the "conditional readmittance" but I've seen no evidence to prove this, so realistically, Reed transferring is not something I'm counting on at all)
http://saintlouis.scout.com/2/1037862.html

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2011, 11:04:21 AM »

Quote from: PowercatPat on February 01, 2011, 08:16:38 AM

I think Nino will be good.

From what I've seen(saw him play extended time at AAU tourney last Spring) and read about Nino, I think his offensive game is very McGruderesque right now, very good jump shooter from deep, great at attacking the glass and mixing it up in the paint, but really needs to improve his passing and handling ability, especially if he's going to see big minutes at the 2.

I am very optimistic about his future, I just don't know if I expect him to step in next year and be a primary scorer/offensive weapon for us.

CNS · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2011, 11:06:38 AM »

Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on February 01, 2011, 11:04:21 AM

Quote from: PowercatPat on February 01, 2011, 08:16:38 AM
I think Nino will be good.

From what I've seen(saw him play extended time at AAU tourney last Spring) and read about Nino, I think his offensive game is very McGruderesque right now, very good jump shooter from deep, great at attacking the glass and mixing it up in the paint, but really needs to improve his passing and handling ability, especially if he's going to see big minutes at the 2.

I am very optimistic about his future, I just don't know if I expect him to step in next year and be a primary scorer/offensive weapon for us.

kinda a low-ninoIQ here, but everything about him seems to say "3" to me. Am I Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2011, 11:13:53 AM »

Quote from: CNS Casey on February 01, 2011, 11:06:38 AM

Quote from: Underdog Wildcat on February 01, 2011, 11:04:21 AM
Quote from: PowercatPat on February 01, 2011, 08:16:38 AM
I think Nino will be good.

From what I've seen(saw him play extended time at AAU tourney last Spring) and read about Nino, I think his offensive game is very McGruderesque right now, very good jump shooter from deep, great at attacking the glass and mixing it up in the paint, but really needs to improve his passing and handling ability, especially if he's going to see big minutes at the 2.

I am very optimistic about his future, I just don't know if I expect him to step in next year and be a primary scorer/offensive weapon for us.

kinda a low-ninoIQ here, but everything about him seems to say "3" to me. Am I Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

Just like Gruds, I think he projects to a slightly undersized 3, definitely expect to see Southwell more at the 2 in future rotations.

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2011, 11:49:14 AM »

Quote from: cas4ksu on February 01, 2011, 09:55:24 AM

**Omari Lawrence

He was *** on rivals.

Benja · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2011, 02:54:48 PM »

Quote from: nicname on January 31, 2011, 11:58:09 PM

Lead type Guards:
Peterson - SR. ** (I'm not sure what he was coming from HS.) seems talented
Myles - SR.
Irving - JR. ***
Spradling - SO. ***
Angel - Fr. *** (fringe 150)

Bigger, two type guards and Swingmen:
Rodney - JR. **** (20/84)
Russell - JR. *** (21/119)
Southwell - SO. *** (25/131)
Nino - FR. ****

Bigs/ Posts
Jamar - SR. ***
JHR - JR. ***
Gipson - Fr. *** (24/142)
Diaz - Fr. *** (17/145)

Assuming these are "buy in" type guys and Frank learns and grows a bit himself, we look to have a decent mix of experienced players and talented (not uber-talented) young players. Paired with lowered expectations does anyone see this team being similar to the 06-07 and 08-09 squads but hopefully able to get over the hump and go dancing? Trying to see positives here.

Add an impact PG to that roster and that team looks a hell of a lot better.

wetwillie · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2011, 03:07:06 PM »

Quote from: Benja on February 01, 2011, 02:54:48 PM

Quote from: nicname on January 31, 2011, 11:58:09 PM
Lead type Guards:
Peterson - SR. ** (I'm not sure what he was coming from HS.) seems talented
Myles - SR.
Irving - JR. ***
Spradling - SO. ***
Angel - Fr. *** (fringe 150)

Bigger, two type guards and Swingmen:
Rodney - JR. **** (20/84)
Russell - JR. *** (21/119)
Southwell - SO. *** (25/131)
Nino - FR. ****

Bigs/ Posts
Jamar - SR. ***
JHR - JR. ***
Gipson - Fr. *** (24/142)
Diaz - Fr. *** (17/145)

Assuming these are "buy in" type guys and Frank learns and grows a bit himself, we look to have a decent mix of experienced players and talented (not uber-talented) young players. Paired with lowered expectations does anyone see this team being similar to the 06-07 and 08-09 squads but hopefully able to get over the hump and go dancing? Trying to see positives here.

Add an impact PG to that roster and that team looks a hell of a lot better.

where do we find one of these for 2011?

Benja · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2011, 03:09:09 PM »

Quote from: wetwillie on February 01, 2011, 03:07:06 PM

Quote from: Benja on February 01, 2011, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: nicname on January 31, 2011, 11:58:09 PM
Lead type Guards:
Peterson - SR. ** (I'm not sure what he was coming from HS.) seems talented
Myles - SR.
Irving - JR. ***
Spradling - SO. ***
Angel - Fr. *** (fringe 150)

Bigger, two type guards and Swingmen:
Rodney - JR. **** (20/84)
Russell - JR. *** (21/119)
Southwell - SO. *** (25/131)
Nino - FR. ****

Bigs/ Posts
Jamar - SR. ***
JHR - JR. ***
Gipson - Fr. *** (24/142)
Diaz - Fr. *** (17/145)

Assuming these are "buy in" type guys and Frank learns and grows a bit himself, we look to have a decent mix of experienced players and talented (not uber-talented) young players. Paired with lowered expectations does anyone see this team being similar to the 06-07 and 08-09 squads but hopefully able to get over the hump and go dancing? Trying to see positives here.

Add an impact PG to that roster and that team looks a hell of a lot better.

where do we find one of these for 2011?

Canada?

CNS · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2011, 03:09:45 PM »

Puerto Rico?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2011, 03:31:37 PM »

It's going to be great to be Frank again next year . . . He'll have that "we're young" card burning a big old hole in his pocket, ready, willing and available to pulled out at a moments notice.

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felix rex · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2011, 03:47:37 PM »

Does anyone else just scan these threads for posts from particular people?

kso_FAN · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2011, 04:02:38 PM »

Quote from: nicname on January 31, 2011, 11:58:09 PM

Assuming these are "buy in" type guys and Frank learns and grows a bit himself, we look to have a decent mix of experienced players and talented (not uber-talented) young players. Paired with lowered expectations does anyone see this team being similar to the 06-07 and 08-09 squads but hopefully able to get over the hump and go dancing? Trying to see positives here.

Another way to look at it:

Lead type Guards:
Peterson - Beginning 2nd year in program
Myles - Beginning 2nd year in program
Irving - Beginning 3rd year in program
Spradling - Beginning 2nd year in program
Angel - Beginning 1st year in program

Bigger, two type guards and Swingmen:
Rodney - Beginning 3rd year in program
Russell - Begining 3rd year in program
Southwell - Beginning 2nd year in program
Nino - Beginning 2nd year in program
OJ - Beginning 3rd year in program

Bigs/ Posts
Jamar - Beginning 5th year in program
JHR - Beginning 3rd year in program
Gipson - Beginning 1st year in program
Diaz - Beginning 1st year in program
Pot - Beginning 2nd year in program

nicname · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2011, 04:13:14 PM »

Regardless of how you slice it this cheese would definitely be considered aged cheddar. This is good IMO.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2011, 04:18:43 PM »

Quote from: nicname on February 01, 2011, 04:13:14 PM

Regardless of how you slice it this cheese would definitely be considered aged cheddar. This is good IMO.

Yeah, there are no guarantees, but I'm going to polish up the experience factor as much as I can. I've got to get a bit of hope back.

canadian_breeze · « **Reply #24 on:** February 01, 2011, 05:14:11 PM »

Quote from: felix rex on February 01, 2011, 03:47:37 PM

Does anyone else just scan these threads for posts from particular people?

ya